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Re: Taiga's situation, as I see it. Bergioyn Send a noteboard - 04/04/2013 05:19:28 PM

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Yeah, I should be packing right now, but this has been in my head.

Taiga is in a tough position at the moment. Claiming to be a cop has gotten a few unvotes but he is still the frontrunner. Clearly he wants (it's just occured to me that I have no idea if Taiga is, in fact, male. Apologies if I am incorrect in that.) to get the focus off of him, but the most obvious way of doing that denied him. Anyone he votes for will likely just vote for him, and then he is three votes down.

Galadriel and I are unlikely as mafia members, me because I am new and expressed from the beginning that I was unsure of how the online version would work (still fuzzy in some areas), and her because I find it unlikely that Hieshyn poofs if she (might as well vary my gender assumptions) were the mafia. So the only two safe suspects for Taiga to accuse are also fairly unlikely. So Taiga opts to push for a no lynch. Unoffensive to pretty much everyone, and bloody great for the mafia, which is the problem.

The fact is we need to lynch somebody. Taiga has enough slips to make an interesting suspect. Worst case scenario, we're killing the cop, but how effective is a cop outed in the first round anyway? I say we do it, see if we've won, and if we haven't, move on to day 2.


Being new in your case or replacement in Galadriels case doesn't make either of you any less likely to be scum since the roles are random. I was scum in my very first game (not on this forum).
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Day 1 – “And so… it begins” – Kosh Naranek - 11/03/2013 09:51:19 AM 1817 Views
List of players - 11/03/2013 09:52:43 AM 838 Views
let's get to assigning questions! - 11/03/2013 11:42:05 AM 832 Views
So did anything happen to anyone during 'Night 0'? *NM* - 11/03/2013 05:35:51 PM 442 Views
I assume somerhing did happen as our mod asked for night actions... - 13/03/2013 10:12:58 AM 805 Views
Hm. 8 players... probably 2 scum, + something else? - 13/03/2013 02:59:49 PM 696 Views
Re: Hm. 8 players... probably 2 scum, + something else? - 13/03/2013 06:46:01 PM 769 Views
I'm still rather confused by the point of day and night 0 - 13/03/2013 09:10:40 PM 762 Views
Re: I'm still rather confused by the point of day and night 0 - 13/03/2013 10:46:33 PM 760 Views
Night 0 relevant info - 02/04/2013 11:46:05 AM 732 Views
So if I understand this correctly... - 13/03/2013 09:39:32 PM 758 Views
Hm. I was assuming this was going to be a Hieshyn nightkill - 11/03/2013 05:45:22 PM 631 Views
Modkill warning - 13/03/2013 03:56:04 PM 764 Views
Vote: Hieshyn - 14/03/2013 07:57:01 AM 800 Views
I generally prefer modkills to lynches... - 14/03/2013 07:24:52 PM 781 Views
Don't do it! *NM* - 17/03/2013 11:57:25 PM 442 Views
So shall we do these questions? - 14/03/2013 02:18:21 PM 845 Views
yep - 2 questions of your pick or your random one - 14/03/2013 09:21:10 PM 633 Views
questions (table) - 14/03/2013 09:28:55 PM 893 Views
Your list of questions includes is off by one because it includes '1' twice - 14/03/2013 10:51:40 PM 751 Views
weird too, go into reply or edit and it has 1-6 *NM* - 15/03/2013 01:08:53 AM 436 Views
weird too, go into reply or edit and it has 1-6 *NM* - 15/03/2013 01:08:53 AM 328 Views
it literally deletes my numbers and replaces them - 15/03/2013 01:13:00 AM 724 Views
I've edited it for you. - 15/03/2013 03:35:56 AM 746 Views
... and now it is missing spaces - 15/03/2013 04:25:52 AM 769 Views
Urgh. I don't want to figure this out, I've got Heart of the Swarm to play . - 15/03/2013 05:50:26 AM 698 Views
ah, i'd been seeing adds for that, enjoy - 15/03/2013 09:09:50 AM 827 Views
Well, it is SciFi - 15/03/2013 09:32:53 AM 642 Views
answer to 4: my character is female *NM* - 15/03/2013 08:10:02 AM 323 Views
Am I humanoid? Yes. *NM* - 15/03/2013 01:56:34 PM 427 Views
answer to number one: no *NM* - 15/03/2013 07:51:06 PM 537 Views
I am so confused. - 17/03/2013 03:33:40 AM 671 Views
Ha ha, if you need help: NB me - 17/03/2013 07:46:34 PM 623 Views
Answer to number 3: Work *NM* - 17/03/2013 10:44:56 PM 478 Views
another question I just thought of... - 19/03/2013 08:49:12 AM 839 Views
Erm... I haven't actually done anything wrong. - 19/03/2013 05:11:22 PM 677 Views
i also am not apparently criminal - 19/03/2013 06:36:21 PM 818 Views
Re: i also am not apparently criminal - 19/03/2013 08:59:49 PM 759 Views
Vote: Taiga - 19/03/2013 10:44:28 PM 748 Views
Vote: Fanatic-Templar - 20/03/2013 04:17:20 PM 719 Views
Don't want to reveal? I don't even know! - 20/03/2013 05:05:05 PM 780 Views
You, on the other hand... - 20/03/2013 05:06:09 PM 775 Views
Re: You, on the other hand... - 21/03/2013 12:52:33 PM 740 Views
Yeah, I'm not a criminal either... *NM* - 20/03/2013 02:39:22 PM 413 Views
Vote- Isaac - 18/03/2013 04:47:36 AM 722 Views
I say we have an in-depth discussion on what type of porn Isaac watches *NM* - 18/03/2013 01:52:10 PM 428 Views
Something sneaky and suspicious, I'm sure. Suprise buttsex? *NM* - 18/03/2013 05:21:42 PM 440 Views
I reckon it's all innocuously titled but really weird when you watch it. *NM* - 19/03/2013 11:45:02 PM 440 Views
there's innocously titled porn? - 20/03/2013 05:36:21 AM 810 Views
:p even the brand new player instantly suspects me *NM* - 19/03/2013 06:29:26 PM 433 Views
Wise, the young one is. *NM* - 19/03/2013 07:59:15 PM 401 Views
A quick announcement - 18/03/2013 09:08:57 AM 571 Views
Total agreement! Unvote! *NM* - 18/03/2013 10:16:42 AM 331 Views
Nice! *NM* - 18/03/2013 01:52:50 PM 457 Views
The replacement is galadriel3562 - 18/03/2013 06:59:52 PM 768 Views
Why does everyone think I eat people? - 18/03/2013 10:43:32 PM 743 Views
Why do you think that you don't? - 19/03/2013 04:24:59 AM 639 Views
Re: Why do you think that you don't? - 20/03/2013 11:09:08 PM 767 Views
An introduction & answer to question - 19/03/2013 07:11:09 AM 670 Views
do you guys want to do a 2nd round of questions? - 19/03/2013 06:33:40 PM 613 Views
I more or less proposed that... - 19/03/2013 09:03:24 PM 704 Views
A summary of the first round of questions: - 20/03/2013 02:43:30 PM 766 Views
So, are the Non-Aligned Worlds super common? - 20/03/2013 02:45:18 PM 747 Views
IMHO not very suspicious... - 20/03/2013 04:21:45 PM 697 Views
If being from a non-aligned world is not terribly suspicious... - 20/03/2013 05:27:31 PM 682 Views
Yeah, none would fall for that one anymore. *NM* - 20/03/2013 05:38:24 PM 437 Views
I favour going after Taiga. - 20/03/2013 08:53:18 PM 722 Views
Re: I favour going after Taiga. - 20/03/2013 09:17:57 PM 846 Views
Hah. That would be awesome. - 20/03/2013 09:46:56 PM 632 Views
Re: I favour going after Taiga. - 21/03/2013 12:57:15 PM 707 Views
Also, I have a great singing voice. *NM* - 20/03/2013 07:53:49 PM 458 Views
I'm at PAX till Sunday, so I'll be mostly out of touch (RBIRL) - 22/03/2013 04:26:39 AM 771 Views
OH MY GOD! - 22/03/2013 07:24:34 PM 774 Views
Who? What? What's that? - 23/03/2013 12:47:02 PM 646 Views
I'm having trouble following what is going on. - 22/03/2013 04:29:32 PM 720 Views
Presumably this helps. - 22/03/2013 04:44:44 PM 757 Views
not backing away, explaining - 23/03/2013 01:07:19 PM 782 Views
Being in jail doesn't necessarily mean one is jailed justly. - 23/03/2013 01:29:36 PM 734 Views
Agree with the sentiment of being unjustly jailed but... - 23/03/2013 03:01:26 PM 743 Views
Right, but the point here is... - 23/03/2013 04:11:08 PM 740 Views
I think we're all missing the point here. - 24/03/2013 04:19:12 AM 746 Views
Re: I think we're all missing the point here. - 24/03/2013 10:30:14 AM 732 Views
All I know is what I learned in face to face to Mafia. - 24/03/2013 03:21:42 PM 781 Views
The gag here is Isaac is always suspected by everyone, no matter what he does. *NM* - 24/03/2013 06:13:11 PM 448 Views
Always suspected, never lynched. - 24/03/2013 07:49:00 PM 719 Views
Indeed. Dannymac will fit right in. *NM* - 24/03/2013 09:22:55 PM 401 Views
The "Taiga is likely a criminal" angle seems decently strong - 25/03/2013 03:46:26 PM 736 Views
Re: The "Taiga is likely a criminal" angle seems decently strong - 25/03/2013 05:12:14 PM 662 Views
Finally were moving ahead. Vote:Taiga - 25/03/2013 07:40:31 PM 737 Views
oh man - 26/03/2013 12:20:26 PM 822 Views
That's enough for now. Unvote. - 26/03/2013 01:01:25 PM 705 Views
yep, square 1. Sorry for that. *NM* - 26/03/2013 01:22:10 PM 341 Views
Devil's advocate: Taiga didn't really offer anything here - 26/03/2013 02:38:21 PM 643 Views
i agree, i think i'm more suspiscious - 26/03/2013 05:08:33 PM 813 Views
Lore question! - 26/03/2013 10:06:06 PM 695 Views
lore answer - 26/03/2013 10:34:54 PM 712 Views
Ooh, "rogue telepath" would be a sweet role. Do the Centauris have any telepath connections? - 27/03/2013 01:47:59 AM 589 Views
only the narn lack telepaths - 27/03/2013 02:37:22 AM 654 Views
Unvote- Isaac, Vote- Taiga - 26/03/2013 07:40:56 PM 834 Views
Re: Unvote- Isaac, Vote- Taiga - 26/03/2013 10:20:58 PM 797 Views
You are making a mistake - 27/03/2013 10:09:41 PM 755 Views
Almost certainly true. - 28/03/2013 04:54:49 AM 844 Views
A roleclaim could save you, at this point - 28/03/2013 12:17:18 PM 682 Views
Agree on the RC - 29/03/2013 11:35:54 PM 708 Views
role - 30/03/2013 09:48:28 AM 753 Views
Unvote - 30/03/2013 04:39:53 PM 684 Views
role - 30/03/2013 09:50:25 AM 694 Views
i think you're lying, there's no such thing as a p1 psi cop - 30/03/2013 09:54:44 PM 728 Views
You're right - 01/04/2013 03:11:16 PM 715 Views
So, what are you saying? - 02/04/2013 06:42:33 PM 671 Views
Ok, Taiga. Crashing the site in order to survive was going too far. - 29/03/2013 04:43:04 PM 728 Views
I agree.... :-> - 29/03/2013 04:52:03 PM 665 Views
Aye, the cheaty guy! *NM* - 29/03/2013 08:16:55 PM 456 Views
He crashed the site again? - 01/04/2013 03:15:54 PM 795 Views
Unvote. Unless anyone claims Taiga is lying? *NM* - 30/03/2013 06:41:13 PM 327 Views
yes, i think so - 30/03/2013 10:14:22 PM 743 Views
The site had to crash the time I have a 4 day weekend - 02/04/2013 07:23:20 PM 794 Views
I think it depends on if the lore makes sense. Isaac, what do you think of Taiga's explanation? *NM* - 03/04/2013 03:03:49 PM 428 Views
This, pretty much. *NM* - 03/04/2013 07:56:22 PM 317 Views
basically it's not very likely but is possible, anyway it doens't matter - 04/04/2013 12:15:12 PM 793 Views
I'd been thinking the same thing. - 04/04/2013 06:19:57 PM 745 Views
In fact, I unvoted because of this. - 05/04/2013 06:55:32 PM 716 Views
hypothesis - 02/04/2013 08:57:46 PM 802 Views
I'm not sure... - 03/04/2013 11:17:08 PM 710 Views
Vote: No lynch - 04/04/2013 08:34:36 AM 626 Views
Re: Vote: No lynch - 04/04/2013 12:16:18 PM 654 Views
No lynch equals mafia win. - 04/04/2013 02:14:08 PM 800 Views
Flying to a Funeral tomorow. - 04/04/2013 06:29:24 AM 754 Views
Taiga's situation, as I see it. - 04/04/2013 03:02:29 PM 822 Views
as I said before: go kill the cop - 04/04/2013 03:25:11 PM 657 Views
you probably shouldn't tempt us - 04/04/2013 07:51:20 PM 723 Views
my rm doesn't say anything about what business, just a regular business woman. *NM* - 05/04/2013 08:05:47 AM 403 Views
ah, well then, vote: taiga - 05/04/2013 09:05:44 AM 764 Views
also... - 05/04/2013 09:14:39 AM 715 Views
Re: Taiga's situation, as I see it. - 04/04/2013 05:19:28 PM 776 Views
I was scum in my first game too *NM* - 05/04/2013 08:06:39 AM 329 Views
Actually, that's a good point. Vote: Taiga - 04/04/2013 05:54:41 PM 758 Views
Come on, folks. Let's get to day 2. - 08/04/2013 05:56:47 PM 790 Views
Hm, yeah, I had assumed we hit the required number of votes for some reason - 08/04/2013 06:07:25 PM 625 Views
we need 5, also still waiting for people to claim it's a false claim - 08/04/2013 06:18:34 PM 624 Views
I thought that was pretty implicit in my claims of waiting for a cop claim. - 08/04/2013 09:21:17 PM 733 Views
such being the case we can go through those who have voted for him or supported it - 08/04/2013 10:40:11 PM 659 Views
Very well. Then consider this my official non-cop claim . - 08/04/2013 11:09:32 PM 785 Views
let me detail this for clarity for the others, as a question we both answered "no" to (table) - 08/04/2013 11:50:39 PM 758 Views
also, unvote: taiga, for now at least - 08/04/2013 11:54:32 PM 845 Views
To the best of my knowledge, I am just your everyday townie. - 09/04/2013 01:29:12 AM 790 Views
Re: To the best of my knowledge, I am just your everyday townie. - 09/04/2013 03:04:07 AM 731 Views
"overly enthusiastic about the lynch..." - 09/04/2013 07:13:12 AM 779 Views
The number of DF is not set. - 09/04/2013 08:32:31 AM 767 Views
Gibbed? SK? - 09/04/2013 04:31:53 PM 722 Views
Re: "overly enthusiastic about the lynch..." - 09/04/2013 10:32:37 AM 768 Views
While I'm a bit reluctant to divulge this... - 09/04/2013 07:21:55 AM 789 Views
Please clarify yourself.. *NM* - 09/04/2013 10:22:00 AM 423 Views
no-cop claim - 09/04/2013 04:32:22 PM 741 Views
Clarify what? - 09/04/2013 07:09:24 PM 777 Views
Re: Clarify what? - 09/04/2013 07:46:03 PM 755 Views
Eh? - 09/04/2013 10:48:55 PM 773 Views
My role is perfectly clear as well. - 09/04/2013 11:44:23 PM 792 Views
So we're waiting for someone to make a fatal error and make this easy? - 10/04/2013 04:49:46 AM 647 Views
Hm. - 10/04/2013 04:06:04 PM 687 Views
still waiting on official disclaimers from lucy and lassi - 10/04/2013 06:25:44 PM 683 Views
Not a cop. *NM* - 10/04/2013 06:35:46 PM 331 Views
one to go then *NM* - 10/04/2013 06:42:16 PM 415 Views
not a cop. *NM* - 10/04/2013 06:45:01 PM 445 Views
while we're waiting though - 10/04/2013 06:41:44 PM 694 Views
ok, let's try something reckless and crazy - 10/04/2013 08:06:48 PM 594 Views
No objections *NM* - 11/04/2013 09:31:01 AM 321 Views
So... whats the point of this, then? - 11/04/2013 04:33:48 PM 706 Views
ah, the ciphering is fairly normal - 11/04/2013 05:17:59 PM 817 Views
Well, ok then. - 12/04/2013 06:02:04 PM 644 Views
I don't deny that this is a plan that would likely be very profitable for us... - 12/04/2013 10:46:13 PM 545 Views
i'll start a table for it then - 13/04/2013 01:16:28 AM 743 Views
encrypted claims (table) - 13/04/2013 01:55:49 AM 794 Views
So because we're stalled... - 13/04/2013 05:22:37 AM 654 Views
Here we go - 13/04/2013 06:42:48 AM 784 Views
Re: encrypted claims (table) - 13/04/2013 11:36:27 AM 684 Views
Re: encrypted claims - 15/04/2013 04:30:58 PM 762 Views
Mine - 16/04/2013 12:52:30 PM 627 Views
my encrypted claims - 17/04/2013 09:13:34 AM 598 Views
RBIRL - 15/04/2013 09:06:33 PM 621 Views
we're waiting on one more encryption, so... - 17/04/2013 09:55:21 AM 730 Views
I encrypted it all together. - 17/04/2013 06:25:26 PM 792 Views
agreed *NM* - 17/04/2013 09:36:02 PM 324 Views
me too, same key for all 3 *NM* - 17/04/2013 10:09:08 PM 438 Views
I used one key for all of them as well *NM* - 17/04/2013 11:14:43 PM 450 Views
I didn't. *NM* - 18/04/2013 02:23:47 PM 423 Views
Me neither. I've got a separate cipher for everyone of them. *NM* - 18/04/2013 02:59:31 PM 428 Views
I'm joining the last two, three separate keys.... *NM* *NM* - 18/04/2013 10:49:55 PM 448 Views
vote: beetnemesis - 19/04/2013 12:22:12 AM 681 Views
or get a modkill... - 19/04/2013 12:24:45 AM 793 Views
also while we're burning time, and amusing subgame - 19/04/2013 12:33:25 AM 719 Views
twice you made the tables (questions and encrypted claims) and voting very late. - 19/04/2013 02:06:13 PM 716 Views
nope, I usually make tables and... - 19/04/2013 02:50:30 PM 784 Views
hmmm, - 19/04/2013 07:17:41 PM 821 Views
Hahaha, +1 *NM* - 19/04/2013 07:36:00 PM 433 Views
- 20/04/2013 03:29:27 AM 599 Views
Re: - 20/04/2013 08:58:14 AM 820 Views
And we love you for it. - 21/04/2013 06:54:28 PM 663 Views
RBIRL again *NM* - 20/04/2013 07:13:57 AM 407 Views
Not really. - 21/04/2013 04:42:24 PM 745 Views
Oh, I almost forgot: Vote: beetnemesis. - 21/04/2013 04:45:39 PM 612 Views
Re: Not really. - 22/04/2013 06:06:26 AM 746 Views
You have been abducted by aliens and replaced by some form of extraterrestrial life form. - 26/04/2013 01:27:10 AM 754 Views
nah, that happened years ago, this is recent *NM* - 26/04/2013 01:39:53 AM 432 Views
Besides, it isn't really unusual. - 26/04/2013 02:23:24 AM 739 Views
Really, you think so? - 26/04/2013 09:51:31 AM 820 Views
Your cleverity there leaves room for improvement. *NM* - 27/04/2013 12:04:47 AM 448 Views
As much as I love the discussion... - 21/04/2013 07:19:57 PM 760 Views
I join...Vote: Beetnemesis *NM* - 21/04/2013 09:21:16 PM 353 Views
Well, in that case. Vote:beetnemesis - 21/04/2013 09:53:08 PM 750 Views
I prefer modkill not to end the day. - 21/04/2013 10:28:56 PM 638 Views
Ok, Vote:beetnemesis *NM* - 21/04/2013 10:39:37 PM 495 Views
Night 1 – "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you." – Zack Allan - 22/04/2013 08:03:25 AM 862 Views
yes, we got lucky! *NM* - 22/04/2013 08:35:41 AM 432 Views
Indeed. Let's hope the luck keeps up. *NM* - 22/04/2013 02:40:48 PM 438 Views
Bah! - 22/04/2013 09:07:38 PM 714 Views
Too bad - 23/04/2013 07:20:51 AM 752 Views
We have a Facebook group? Neat. *NM* - 23/04/2013 06:26:44 PM 444 Views
https://www.facebook.com/groups/134337250069780/ - 23/04/2013 07:23:40 PM 669 Views
Sooo, how long is this night going to take? *NM* - 26/04/2013 07:25:47 AM 398 Views
Max 29-4...mod said so in the night Message above... *NM* - 26/04/2013 09:35:35 AM 435 Views
Huh. I missed that. *NM* - 26/04/2013 11:58:23 AM 303 Views

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