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Re: for myself Isaac Send a noteboard - 19/11/2012 11:27:04 AM
I did vote for Ranagrande just to save my own ass, as has been suggested multiple times. As for the possibility that I bussed Rana: I seriously had to look up what 'bussing' meant, I had no clue. No, I didn't bus Rana :P I was just afraid that I was killed in the first night of my first game.


I utterly believe everything you said there, it would be true regardless of your alignment. The thing is 'bussing' for 'throw them under the bus' is something that comes intuitively to the cunning and is just the term for it, we did it before knowing the term. It's not a complex concept, my ally is probably going to die, I will make myself look more innocent by voting for him. FT and I did it to our ally and the Game Founder back in game 4, his first time as scum and my second, so I know it doesn't take a lot of experience to develop the concept, and IIRC the structure of the occasion didn't allow us to discuss it, we both enacted it without consultation, so no particular epiphany is required.

There is a bit of a learning curve, even though all the concepts of treachery we use are pretty much soaked in from normal life, but this one isn't too hard. But it probably does need a prod, had Ranagrande voted for you first and you were allies, that would be more than sufficient, but you voted for him about two weeks earlier so that theory is out. In fact that early vote would almost make you seem more innocent as a new player, except I don't find it too hard to believe a newer player might decide to vote for an ally early in the game, we had that happen back in the day too.

I am inclined to believe you about not being in cahoots with him, but not for the reasons you list, which as mentioned I am sure are true. Rather it's just that my theory revolves around Rana taking action because he was near death, and the problem is he could have gotten out of that lynch simply by posting a few times. I don't rule it out, and of course there's at least a 1 in 8 chance you're his ally anyway, but I feel the sum of possibilities makes the event essentially neutral, neither more nor less likely to be scum because of the accusation.
The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
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Day 2: Superstar - 28/10/2012 03:45:56 PM 1976 Views
Current Votes: STEPHEN HAS BEEN LYNCHED - 28/10/2012 03:47:08 PM 1097 Views
Nobody died? *NM* - 28/10/2012 04:22:17 PM 682 Views
Nope *NM* - 28/10/2012 04:33:40 PM 670 Views
Oh, well I guess Yuna is really who she claims to be then. - 28/10/2012 05:24:03 PM 1039 Views
season 4, episode 17 (google is my friend..) *NM* - 28/10/2012 06:58:20 PM 603 Views
Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. *NM* - 28/10/2012 08:24:47 PM 649 Views
EBWOP This was supposed to be a reply to Taiga's post, above. *NM* - 28/10/2012 08:25:16 PM 729 Views
I concur. - 29/10/2012 02:11:38 AM 1114 Views
Re: I concur. - 29/10/2012 09:03:39 PM 1059 Views
So what's the point? - 30/10/2012 02:32:43 AM 986 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 10:04:52 AM 1117 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 05:35:31 PM 1045 Views
No, that's option 3 - I get that - 29/10/2012 07:38:27 PM 974 Views
Oh, right. Sorry, I misread that. *NM* - 29/10/2012 11:34:37 PM 591 Views
I don't think that does work. - 30/10/2012 02:34:34 AM 1150 Views
The Cairhien Game - 30/10/2012 03:16:53 AM 969 Views
Yeah, but in the Cairhien game, the Darkfriends were a sideshow . - 30/10/2012 04:05:02 AM 883 Views
I must say that game crosse my mind - 30/10/2012 09:23:30 AM 937 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 06:27:32 PM 1052 Views
Interesting results - 29/10/2012 02:52:26 AM 960 Views
maybe a 4th option? - 29/10/2012 01:20:14 PM 1104 Views
No, I don't think so. - 30/10/2012 02:35:49 AM 1370 Views
It is, but not too likely - 30/10/2012 03:15:31 AM 898 Views
What now? - 31/10/2012 07:39:04 AM 1002 Views
I think we should hear about Night Messages - 31/10/2012 08:50:27 AM 1014 Views
I think Hypocopping would be good idea. *NM* - 31/10/2012 09:36:00 PM 634 Views
You were targeted? - 02/11/2012 12:15:13 AM 933 Views
Why is that anti-town? - 02/11/2012 04:06:54 PM 970 Views
Okay then. - 02/11/2012 05:14:18 PM 896 Views
All kinds of RBIRL - 01/11/2012 04:09:42 AM 989 Views
We understand - 01/11/2012 08:25:34 AM 1061 Views
Sorry for disappearing, kinda RBIRL - 02/11/2012 12:06:09 AM 1014 Views
Hypocopping [TABLE] [Edit 2] - 02/11/2012 04:12:42 PM 1084 Views
Darth_Katie - not-guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 04:13:07 PM 686 Views
Re: Hypocopping [TABLE] - 02/11/2012 04:46:44 PM 1057 Views
Artsapat - guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 11:52:59 PM 1017 Views
Yunalesca - Guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 05:06:43 PM 722 Views
Isaac - Innocent *NM* - 02/11/2012 05:53:54 PM 737 Views
? - not guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 09:21:10 PM 717 Views
Tagia - Innocent *NM* - 02/11/2012 11:04:51 PM 707 Views
Artsapat - Guilty *NM* - 03/11/2012 05:06:19 AM 667 Views
? - Guilty *NM* - 04/11/2012 03:08:31 AM 682 Views
My understanding of the votes from Yesterday. - 05/11/2012 12:16:56 PM 1175 Views
Well, if even this does not elicit a response in twelve+ hours... - 06/11/2012 07:22:01 AM 1111 Views
I'm not sure if I understand this correctly... - 06/11/2012 07:47:06 AM 982 Views
Well, I'll give you that I only voted on Ranagrande because deadline was approaching. - 06/11/2012 08:14:45 AM 1035 Views
Re: Well, I'll give you that I only voted on Ranagrande because deadline was approaching. - 07/11/2012 07:43:45 AM 1182 Views
I just don't understand how you can consider these not to be strong enough cases. - 07/11/2012 09:22:50 AM 1035 Views
I still haven't heard the case - 08/11/2012 12:54:48 AM 1008 Views
One of them was the only non-human in a monster-hunting theme. - 13/11/2012 06:41:30 PM 967 Views
Oh, I assumed there was more - 13/11/2012 07:01:54 PM 892 Views
Yuna's role - 06/11/2012 10:16:36 AM 1037 Views
If that is the case, you just made a major blunder. - 06/11/2012 11:41:03 AM 909 Views
... - 06/11/2012 06:13:11 PM 901 Views
*facepalm* - 06/11/2012 04:26:23 PM 952 Views
... what? *NM* - 06/11/2012 05:33:08 PM 605 Views
What ... ? - 07/11/2012 06:23:33 AM 1247 Views
Re: What ... ? - 07/11/2012 09:11:04 AM 916 Views
Most important question! - 07/11/2012 01:34:54 PM 945 Views
Indeed, I noticed that - 07/11/2012 02:41:37 PM 1001 Views
correction: it was a Night Resolution message *NM* - 07/11/2012 11:16:38 PM 590 Views
So you are roled and had a Night Action? *NM* - 08/11/2012 12:34:48 AM 703 Views
No, I was the target of a night action... *NM* - 08/11/2012 07:52:35 AM 663 Views
Strange. Targets of Night Actions wouldn't normally get a Resolution Message. - 08/11/2012 03:57:57 PM 1184 Views
I did...?? - 10/11/2012 03:00:19 PM 888 Views
This one? - 13/11/2012 01:48:19 AM 885 Views
i guess due to Tagia biome's blunder i'd better role claim soon - 07/11/2012 10:53:24 PM 1004 Views
really sorry *NM* - 07/11/2012 11:17:16 PM 648 Views
Well to me... - 08/11/2012 11:03:58 AM 898 Views
I don't see any reason you would need to roleclaim. - 08/11/2012 05:45:53 PM 1000 Views
ok - 08/11/2012 10:00:35 PM 1002 Views
Power! Internet! Bwaha! - 09/11/2012 09:04:18 PM 917 Views
No worries man. - 09/11/2012 10:02:50 PM 966 Views
Nothing too bad... - 09/11/2012 10:22:43 PM 885 Views
I'm working my way through the game now. Would you like a hyppocop? *NM* - 09/11/2012 10:23:15 PM 677 Views
Sure, why not. *NM* - 09/11/2012 11:18:47 PM 567 Views
I found Artsapat Innocent *NM* - 10/11/2012 05:23:20 PM 679 Views
RBIRL - 11/11/2012 09:06:16 AM 983 Views
So now what? *NM* - 11/11/2012 10:06:43 PM 549 Views
Can I ask for reasons...? - 11/11/2012 10:08:11 PM 944 Views
Either they investigated/tracked/whatever them and that's the result they got, - 11/11/2012 10:19:05 PM 1037 Views
I feel like I have been advised in past games.... - 13/11/2012 01:43:10 AM 941 Views
Not to 50/50 randomize them, but definitely ot randomize them - 13/11/2012 07:14:08 PM 975 Views
Ahhh very true *NM* - 13/11/2012 08:42:39 PM 614 Views
Re: So now what? - 12/11/2012 06:46:50 PM 1006 Views
I agree - 12/11/2012 11:11:23 PM 1029 Views
Okay I'll respond to it above *NM* - 13/11/2012 01:44:15 AM 564 Views
Re: So now what? - 13/11/2012 05:18:34 PM 976 Views
RBIRL until next Monday. - 13/11/2012 03:15:46 AM 1247 Views
*cough cough* - 13/11/2012 03:45:45 PM 897 Views
*NM* - 13/11/2012 05:31:26 PM 463 Views
*NM* - 13/11/2012 05:51:11 PM 658 Views
Well... - 13/11/2012 07:16:36 PM 935 Views
Silly Isaac, of course it does. *NM* - 14/11/2012 07:30:42 PM 732 Views
So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 13/11/2012 07:46:14 PM 1040 Views
Re: So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 14/11/2012 11:04:44 AM 978 Views
Re: So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 16/11/2012 11:57:26 PM 1001 Views
I should point out... - 14/11/2012 05:48:45 PM 891 Views
Although that doesn't really change anything to your point . - 14/11/2012 05:49:45 PM 1046 Views
Re: Although that doesn't really change anything to your point . - 14/11/2012 09:38:53 PM 1006 Views
RBIRL for a day or so - 15/11/2012 01:47:20 AM 934 Views
Hey, let's kill someone! *NM* - 18/11/2012 12:52:34 AM 668 Views
Well, you already know my favourite . *NM* - 18/11/2012 03:13:53 AM 635 Views
Someone else *NM* - 18/11/2012 03:37:26 AM 672 Views
Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 08:01:38 AM 931 Views
Re: Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 09:58:29 AM 881 Views
Re: Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 02:45:21 PM 1043 Views
sounds like a plan *NM* - 18/11/2012 08:37:24 AM 625 Views
That would seem to take us back to ? and Stephen, or some alternate plan - 18/11/2012 10:24:16 AM 950 Views
I think it is pretty safe to say.... - 18/11/2012 02:13:12 PM 941 Views
Yuna is probably not mafia. - 18/11/2012 07:35:44 PM 832 Views
Sorry for off-radaring for a few days. - 18/11/2012 10:08:57 PM 991 Views
for myself - 19/11/2012 09:44:03 AM 927 Views
Re: for myself - 19/11/2012 11:27:04 AM 1059 Views
Re: That would seem to take us back to ? and Stephen, or some alternate plan - 19/11/2012 06:11:18 PM 854 Views
time to make a choice - 19/11/2012 08:15:41 PM 959 Views
Hardly anything to defend myself? - 19/11/2012 08:41:32 PM 929 Views
I concur. - 20/11/2012 11:11:11 AM 1014 Views
Also, we still haven't got a decent explanation from Taiga. - 20/11/2012 11:16:41 AM 975 Views
Re: Also, we still haven't got a decent explanation from Taiga. - 20/11/2012 01:44:15 PM 912 Views
again - 20/11/2012 06:23:22 PM 965 Views
It's not entirely unusual to get messages when targeted by actions... - 20/11/2012 06:57:14 PM 904 Views
Vote: Yunalesca *NM* - 20/11/2012 08:42:05 PM 656 Views
what? why? *NM* - 21/11/2012 12:47:18 AM 598 Views
You sound like a cult leader to me *NM* - 21/11/2012 02:25:52 AM 662 Views
Re: again - 21/11/2012 12:49:49 AM 1013 Views
clarification - 21/11/2012 05:10:41 PM 978 Views
Well, yeah... - 21/11/2012 06:21:23 PM 869 Views
Umm...Idea. - 22/11/2012 02:05:14 AM 996 Views
I've considered that... - 22/11/2012 05:27:24 AM 882 Views
Yes I realized that as well... *NM* - 22/11/2012 01:03:15 PM 638 Views
I think I;m happy to vote for yuna right now. - 22/11/2012 02:35:09 AM 955 Views
That's not what it sounded like. *NM* - 22/11/2012 01:12:46 AM 674 Views
what part of 'i have no powers of recruitment' don't you get? - 22/11/2012 10:24:27 AM 968 Views
The... - 22/11/2012 01:04:05 PM 942 Views
Re: The... - 22/11/2012 01:36:44 PM 937 Views
I'm just throwing this out there. - 18/11/2012 10:13:22 PM 1015 Views
True *NM* - 19/11/2012 12:10:04 AM 694 Views
Ooh... what an interesting idea. - 19/11/2012 07:46:22 PM 883 Views
Unless Rana was a SK, itr doens't change the dynamics of the NK, or lack thereof *NM* - 20/11/2012 05:49:40 AM 623 Views
Yes, well that's what I was starting to wonder. Was Rana acting alone? - 20/11/2012 07:18:37 AM 932 Views
Serial killer and cult leader? - 20/11/2012 08:44:21 PM 998 Views
RBIRL - 22/11/2012 10:40:44 PM 1013 Views
Find out who's doing the airship mod and tell him to hurry up *NM* - 22/11/2012 11:03:48 PM 568 Views
Right... *NM* - 25/11/2012 05:23:59 PM 617 Views
Left... *NM* - 25/11/2012 09:37:20 PM 691 Views
Ah someone lives! - 25/11/2012 09:58:03 PM 925 Views
Well, so do I? - 26/11/2012 08:26:55 AM 980 Views
I do live too.. - 26/11/2012 09:14:02 AM 959 Views
Where did you vote? - 26/11/2012 07:04:22 PM 953 Views
*cough* Sorry about that. It's there now. *NM* - 26/11/2012 08:01:29 PM 645 Views
Unvote - 26/11/2012 06:34:47 PM 964 Views
But that'd make three scum... - 26/11/2012 08:40:36 PM 942 Views
Before we hammer here... can we get a RC from Stephen? - 26/11/2012 11:10:57 PM 1249 Views
Sure, why not. - 26/11/2012 11:39:02 PM 983 Views
Sure me too *NM* - 27/11/2012 03:23:42 AM 649 Views
Sounds like a plan. *NM* - 27/11/2012 05:39:17 AM 653 Views
I concur.. *NM* - 28/11/2012 09:24:35 AM 638 Views
Sorry, I've been ill. - 28/11/2012 02:46:20 PM 1010 Views
Feeling better? *NM* - 29/11/2012 01:00:52 AM 656 Views
I'm mostly recovered. - 29/11/2012 01:37:50 AM 978 Views
That's a bold claim. - 29/11/2012 03:28:43 AM 876 Views
Well, I have suspected Taiga from pretty much the first minute as I have previously documented. - 29/11/2012 02:01:37 PM 1004 Views
Why would you Watch someone you suspected? You track them - Vote: Stephen - 29/11/2012 06:13:20 PM 1057 Views
Vote: Stephen - 30/11/2012 06:38:59 AM 970 Views
Well, I guess I'm technically lynched. - 30/11/2012 01:53:13 PM 1060 Views
Ouch. - 30/11/2012 04:38:45 PM 974 Views
That makes quite alot sense actually. Vote:Stephen *NM* - 30/11/2012 09:01:01 AM 649 Views
back from Minecon...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz *NM* - 26/11/2012 07:16:28 PM 620 Views
Twilight - 30/11/2012 03:58:02 PM 1061 Views
Day 3 should be starting within a day or two *NM* - 05/12/2012 03:36:38 PM 629 Views
...and you expect still to end it before X-mas ^^ *NM* - 05/12/2012 06:47:57 PM 678 Views

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