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Re: for myself Isaac Send a noteboard - 19/11/2012 11:27:04 AM
I did vote for Ranagrande just to save my own ass, as has been suggested multiple times. As for the possibility that I bussed Rana: I seriously had to look up what 'bussing' meant, I had no clue. No, I didn't bus Rana :P I was just afraid that I was killed in the first night of my first game.


I utterly believe everything you said there, it would be true regardless of your alignment. The thing is 'bussing' for 'throw them under the bus' is something that comes intuitively to the cunning and is just the term for it, we did it before knowing the term. It's not a complex concept, my ally is probably going to die, I will make myself look more innocent by voting for him. FT and I did it to our ally and the Game Founder back in game 4, his first time as scum and my second, so I know it doesn't take a lot of experience to develop the concept, and IIRC the structure of the occasion didn't allow us to discuss it, we both enacted it without consultation, so no particular epiphany is required.

There is a bit of a learning curve, even though all the concepts of treachery we use are pretty much soaked in from normal life, but this one isn't too hard. But it probably does need a prod, had Ranagrande voted for you first and you were allies, that would be more than sufficient, but you voted for him about two weeks earlier so that theory is out. In fact that early vote would almost make you seem more innocent as a new player, except I don't find it too hard to believe a newer player might decide to vote for an ally early in the game, we had that happen back in the day too.

I am inclined to believe you about not being in cahoots with him, but not for the reasons you list, which as mentioned I am sure are true. Rather it's just that my theory revolves around Rana taking action because he was near death, and the problem is he could have gotten out of that lynch simply by posting a few times. I don't rule it out, and of course there's at least a 1 in 8 chance you're his ally anyway, but I feel the sum of possibilities makes the event essentially neutral, neither more nor less likely to be scum because of the accusation.
The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
- Albert Einstein

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Day 2: Superstar - 28/10/2012 03:45:56 PM 2534 Views
Current Votes: STEPHEN HAS BEEN LYNCHED - 28/10/2012 03:47:08 PM 1623 Views
Nobody died? *NM* - 28/10/2012 04:22:17 PM 943 Views
Nope *NM* - 28/10/2012 04:33:40 PM 929 Views
Oh, well I guess Yuna is really who she claims to be then. - 28/10/2012 05:24:03 PM 1564 Views
season 4, episode 17 (google is my friend..) *NM* - 28/10/2012 06:58:20 PM 883 Views
Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. *NM* - 28/10/2012 08:24:47 PM 937 Views
EBWOP This was supposed to be a reply to Taiga's post, above. *NM* - 28/10/2012 08:25:16 PM 997 Views
I concur. - 29/10/2012 02:11:38 AM 1629 Views
Re: I concur. - 29/10/2012 09:03:39 PM 1621 Views
So what's the point? - 30/10/2012 02:32:43 AM 1574 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 10:04:52 AM 1639 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 05:35:31 PM 1598 Views
No, that's option 3 - I get that - 29/10/2012 07:38:27 PM 1476 Views
Oh, right. Sorry, I misread that. *NM* - 29/10/2012 11:34:37 PM 930 Views
I don't think that does work. - 30/10/2012 02:34:34 AM 1762 Views
The Cairhien Game - 30/10/2012 03:16:53 AM 1528 Views
Yeah, but in the Cairhien game, the Darkfriends were a sideshow . - 30/10/2012 04:05:02 AM 1381 Views
I must say that game crosse my mind - 30/10/2012 09:23:30 AM 1453 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 06:27:32 PM 1607 Views
Interesting results - 29/10/2012 02:52:26 AM 1536 Views
maybe a 4th option? - 29/10/2012 01:20:14 PM 1665 Views
No, I don't think so. - 30/10/2012 02:35:49 AM 2046 Views
It is, but not too likely - 30/10/2012 03:15:31 AM 1454 Views
What now? - 31/10/2012 07:39:04 AM 1499 Views
I think we should hear about Night Messages - 31/10/2012 08:50:27 AM 1479 Views
I think Hypocopping would be good idea. *NM* - 31/10/2012 09:36:00 PM 893 Views
You were targeted? - 02/11/2012 12:15:13 AM 1474 Views
Why is that anti-town? - 02/11/2012 04:06:54 PM 1528 Views
Okay then. - 02/11/2012 05:14:18 PM 1423 Views
All kinds of RBIRL - 01/11/2012 04:09:42 AM 1527 Views
We understand - 01/11/2012 08:25:34 AM 1571 Views
Sorry for disappearing, kinda RBIRL - 02/11/2012 12:06:09 AM 1559 Views
Hypocopping [TABLE] [Edit 2] - 02/11/2012 04:12:42 PM 1642 Views
Darth_Katie - not-guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 04:13:07 PM 962 Views
Re: Hypocopping [TABLE] - 02/11/2012 04:46:44 PM 1543 Views
Artsapat - guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 11:52:59 PM 1458 Views
Yunalesca - Guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 05:06:43 PM 998 Views
Isaac - Innocent *NM* - 02/11/2012 05:53:54 PM 1011 Views
? - not guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 09:21:10 PM 988 Views
Tagia - Innocent *NM* - 02/11/2012 11:04:51 PM 983 Views
Artsapat - Guilty *NM* - 03/11/2012 05:06:19 AM 945 Views
? - Guilty *NM* - 04/11/2012 03:08:31 AM 947 Views
My understanding of the votes from Yesterday. - 05/11/2012 12:16:56 PM 1740 Views
Well, if even this does not elicit a response in twelve+ hours... - 06/11/2012 07:22:01 AM 1655 Views
I'm not sure if I understand this correctly... - 06/11/2012 07:47:06 AM 1529 Views
Well, I'll give you that I only voted on Ranagrande because deadline was approaching. - 06/11/2012 08:14:45 AM 1573 Views
Re: Well, I'll give you that I only voted on Ranagrande because deadline was approaching. - 07/11/2012 07:43:45 AM 1695 Views
I just don't understand how you can consider these not to be strong enough cases. - 07/11/2012 09:22:50 AM 1566 Views
I still haven't heard the case - 08/11/2012 12:54:48 AM 1546 Views
One of them was the only non-human in a monster-hunting theme. - 13/11/2012 06:41:30 PM 1474 Views
Oh, I assumed there was more - 13/11/2012 07:01:54 PM 1431 Views
Yuna's role - 06/11/2012 10:16:36 AM 1541 Views
If that is the case, you just made a major blunder. - 06/11/2012 11:41:03 AM 1462 Views
... - 06/11/2012 06:13:11 PM 1410 Views
*facepalm* - 06/11/2012 04:26:23 PM 1434 Views
... what? *NM* - 06/11/2012 05:33:08 PM 851 Views
What ... ? - 07/11/2012 06:23:33 AM 1872 Views
Re: What ... ? - 07/11/2012 09:11:04 AM 1408 Views
Most important question! - 07/11/2012 01:34:54 PM 1462 Views
Indeed, I noticed that - 07/11/2012 02:41:37 PM 1517 Views
correction: it was a Night Resolution message *NM* - 07/11/2012 11:16:38 PM 859 Views
So you are roled and had a Night Action? *NM* - 08/11/2012 12:34:48 AM 971 Views
No, I was the target of a night action... *NM* - 08/11/2012 07:52:35 AM 1078 Views
Strange. Targets of Night Actions wouldn't normally get a Resolution Message. - 08/11/2012 03:57:57 PM 1664 Views
I did...?? - 10/11/2012 03:00:19 PM 1353 Views
This one? - 13/11/2012 01:48:19 AM 1372 Views
i guess due to Tagia biome's blunder i'd better role claim soon - 07/11/2012 10:53:24 PM 1488 Views
really sorry *NM* - 07/11/2012 11:17:16 PM 913 Views
Well to me... - 08/11/2012 11:03:58 AM 1447 Views
I don't see any reason you would need to roleclaim. - 08/11/2012 05:45:53 PM 1522 Views
ok - 08/11/2012 10:00:35 PM 1545 Views
Power! Internet! Bwaha! - 09/11/2012 09:04:18 PM 1422 Views
No worries man. - 09/11/2012 10:02:50 PM 1512 Views
Nothing too bad... - 09/11/2012 10:22:43 PM 1410 Views
I'm working my way through the game now. Would you like a hyppocop? *NM* - 09/11/2012 10:23:15 PM 933 Views
Sure, why not. *NM* - 09/11/2012 11:18:47 PM 970 Views
I found Artsapat Innocent *NM* - 10/11/2012 05:23:20 PM 961 Views
RBIRL - 11/11/2012 09:06:16 AM 1501 Views
So now what? *NM* - 11/11/2012 10:06:43 PM 816 Views
Can I ask for reasons...? - 11/11/2012 10:08:11 PM 1579 Views
Either they investigated/tracked/whatever them and that's the result they got, - 11/11/2012 10:19:05 PM 1560 Views
I feel like I have been advised in past games.... - 13/11/2012 01:43:10 AM 1411 Views
Not to 50/50 randomize them, but definitely ot randomize them - 13/11/2012 07:14:08 PM 1492 Views
Ahhh very true *NM* - 13/11/2012 08:42:39 PM 882 Views
Re: So now what? - 12/11/2012 06:46:50 PM 1503 Views
I agree - 12/11/2012 11:11:23 PM 1526 Views
Okay I'll respond to it above *NM* - 13/11/2012 01:44:15 AM 818 Views
Re: So now what? - 13/11/2012 05:18:34 PM 1479 Views
RBIRL until next Monday. - 13/11/2012 03:15:46 AM 1860 Views
*cough cough* - 13/11/2012 03:45:45 PM 1377 Views
*NM* - 13/11/2012 05:31:26 PM 718 Views
*NM* - 13/11/2012 05:51:11 PM 904 Views
Well... - 13/11/2012 07:16:36 PM 1408 Views
Silly Isaac, of course it does. *NM* - 14/11/2012 07:30:42 PM 1024 Views
So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 13/11/2012 07:46:14 PM 1563 Views
Re: So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 14/11/2012 11:04:44 AM 1468 Views
Re: So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 16/11/2012 11:57:26 PM 1536 Views
I should point out... - 14/11/2012 05:48:45 PM 1532 Views
Although that doesn't really change anything to your point . - 14/11/2012 05:49:45 PM 1549 Views
Re: Although that doesn't really change anything to your point . - 14/11/2012 09:38:53 PM 1513 Views
RBIRL for a day or so - 15/11/2012 01:47:20 AM 1450 Views
Hey, let's kill someone! *NM* - 18/11/2012 12:52:34 AM 924 Views
Well, you already know my favourite . *NM* - 18/11/2012 03:13:53 AM 898 Views
Someone else *NM* - 18/11/2012 03:37:26 AM 977 Views
Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 08:01:38 AM 1467 Views
Re: Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 09:58:29 AM 1420 Views
Re: Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 02:45:21 PM 1550 Views
sounds like a plan *NM* - 18/11/2012 08:37:24 AM 1029 Views
That would seem to take us back to ? and Stephen, or some alternate plan - 18/11/2012 10:24:16 AM 1477 Views
I think it is pretty safe to say.... - 18/11/2012 02:13:12 PM 1481 Views
Yuna is probably not mafia. - 18/11/2012 07:35:44 PM 1348 Views
Sorry for off-radaring for a few days. - 18/11/2012 10:08:57 PM 1523 Views
for myself - 19/11/2012 09:44:03 AM 1358 Views
Re: for myself - 19/11/2012 11:27:04 AM 1572 Views
Re: That would seem to take us back to ? and Stephen, or some alternate plan - 19/11/2012 06:11:18 PM 1349 Views
time to make a choice - 19/11/2012 08:15:41 PM 1441 Views
Hardly anything to defend myself? - 19/11/2012 08:41:32 PM 1424 Views
I concur. - 20/11/2012 11:11:11 AM 1501 Views
Also, we still haven't got a decent explanation from Taiga. - 20/11/2012 11:16:41 AM 1514 Views
Re: Also, we still haven't got a decent explanation from Taiga. - 20/11/2012 01:44:15 PM 1444 Views
again - 20/11/2012 06:23:22 PM 1436 Views
It's not entirely unusual to get messages when targeted by actions... - 20/11/2012 06:57:14 PM 1406 Views
Vote: Yunalesca *NM* - 20/11/2012 08:42:05 PM 1061 Views
what? why? *NM* - 21/11/2012 12:47:18 AM 864 Views
You sound like a cult leader to me *NM* - 21/11/2012 02:25:52 AM 902 Views
Re: again - 21/11/2012 12:49:49 AM 1547 Views
clarification - 21/11/2012 05:10:41 PM 1488 Views
Well, yeah... - 21/11/2012 06:21:23 PM 1375 Views
Umm...Idea. - 22/11/2012 02:05:14 AM 1457 Views
I've considered that... - 22/11/2012 05:27:24 AM 1389 Views
Yes I realized that as well... *NM* - 22/11/2012 01:03:15 PM 899 Views
I think I;m happy to vote for yuna right now. - 22/11/2012 02:35:09 AM 1520 Views
That's not what it sounded like. *NM* - 22/11/2012 01:12:46 AM 954 Views
what part of 'i have no powers of recruitment' don't you get? - 22/11/2012 10:24:27 AM 1469 Views
The... - 22/11/2012 01:04:05 PM 1607 Views
Re: The... - 22/11/2012 01:36:44 PM 1467 Views
I'm just throwing this out there. - 18/11/2012 10:13:22 PM 1568 Views
True *NM* - 19/11/2012 12:10:04 AM 956 Views
Ooh... what an interesting idea. - 19/11/2012 07:46:22 PM 1354 Views
Unless Rana was a SK, itr doens't change the dynamics of the NK, or lack thereof *NM* - 20/11/2012 05:49:40 AM 893 Views
Yes, well that's what I was starting to wonder. Was Rana acting alone? - 20/11/2012 07:18:37 AM 1438 Views
Serial killer and cult leader? - 20/11/2012 08:44:21 PM 1494 Views
RBIRL - 22/11/2012 10:40:44 PM 1485 Views
Find out who's doing the airship mod and tell him to hurry up *NM* - 22/11/2012 11:03:48 PM 830 Views
Right... *NM* - 25/11/2012 05:23:59 PM 879 Views
Left... *NM* - 25/11/2012 09:37:20 PM 947 Views
Ah someone lives! - 25/11/2012 09:58:03 PM 1434 Views
Well, so do I? - 26/11/2012 08:26:55 AM 1482 Views
I do live too.. - 26/11/2012 09:14:02 AM 1446 Views
Where did you vote? - 26/11/2012 07:04:22 PM 1443 Views
*cough* Sorry about that. It's there now. *NM* - 26/11/2012 08:01:29 PM 897 Views
Unvote - 26/11/2012 06:34:47 PM 1497 Views
But that'd make three scum... - 26/11/2012 08:40:36 PM 1494 Views
Before we hammer here... can we get a RC from Stephen? - 26/11/2012 11:10:57 PM 1713 Views
Sure, why not. - 26/11/2012 11:39:02 PM 1440 Views
Sure me too *NM* - 27/11/2012 03:23:42 AM 899 Views
Sounds like a plan. *NM* - 27/11/2012 05:39:17 AM 907 Views
I concur.. *NM* - 28/11/2012 09:24:35 AM 898 Views
Sorry, I've been ill. - 28/11/2012 02:46:20 PM 1490 Views
Feeling better? *NM* - 29/11/2012 01:00:52 AM 897 Views
I'm mostly recovered. - 29/11/2012 01:37:50 AM 1631 Views
That's a bold claim. - 29/11/2012 03:28:43 AM 1389 Views
Well, I have suspected Taiga from pretty much the first minute as I have previously documented. - 29/11/2012 02:01:37 PM 1600 Views
Why would you Watch someone you suspected? You track them - Vote: Stephen - 29/11/2012 06:13:20 PM 1608 Views
Vote: Stephen - 30/11/2012 06:38:59 AM 1467 Views
Well, I guess I'm technically lynched. - 30/11/2012 01:53:13 PM 1655 Views
Ouch. - 30/11/2012 04:38:45 PM 1445 Views
That makes quite alot sense actually. Vote:Stephen *NM* - 30/11/2012 09:01:01 AM 892 Views
back from Minecon...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz *NM* - 26/11/2012 07:16:28 PM 878 Views
Twilight - 30/11/2012 03:58:02 PM 1577 Views
Day 3 should be starting within a day or two *NM* - 05/12/2012 03:36:38 PM 892 Views
...and you expect still to end it before X-mas ^^ *NM* - 05/12/2012 06:47:57 PM 967 Views

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