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Re: for myself Isaac Send a noteboard - 19/11/2012 11:27:04 AM
I did vote for Ranagrande just to save my own ass, as has been suggested multiple times. As for the possibility that I bussed Rana: I seriously had to look up what 'bussing' meant, I had no clue. No, I didn't bus Rana :P I was just afraid that I was killed in the first night of my first game.


I utterly believe everything you said there, it would be true regardless of your alignment. The thing is 'bussing' for 'throw them under the bus' is something that comes intuitively to the cunning and is just the term for it, we did it before knowing the term. It's not a complex concept, my ally is probably going to die, I will make myself look more innocent by voting for him. FT and I did it to our ally and the Game Founder back in game 4, his first time as scum and my second, so I know it doesn't take a lot of experience to develop the concept, and IIRC the structure of the occasion didn't allow us to discuss it, we both enacted it without consultation, so no particular epiphany is required.

There is a bit of a learning curve, even though all the concepts of treachery we use are pretty much soaked in from normal life, but this one isn't too hard. But it probably does need a prod, had Ranagrande voted for you first and you were allies, that would be more than sufficient, but you voted for him about two weeks earlier so that theory is out. In fact that early vote would almost make you seem more innocent as a new player, except I don't find it too hard to believe a newer player might decide to vote for an ally early in the game, we had that happen back in the day too.

I am inclined to believe you about not being in cahoots with him, but not for the reasons you list, which as mentioned I am sure are true. Rather it's just that my theory revolves around Rana taking action because he was near death, and the problem is he could have gotten out of that lynch simply by posting a few times. I don't rule it out, and of course there's at least a 1 in 8 chance you're his ally anyway, but I feel the sum of possibilities makes the event essentially neutral, neither more nor less likely to be scum because of the accusation.
The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
- Albert Einstein

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Day 2: Superstar - 28/10/2012 03:45:56 PM 2012 Views
Current Votes: STEPHEN HAS BEEN LYNCHED - 28/10/2012 03:47:08 PM 1127 Views
Nobody died? *NM* - 28/10/2012 04:22:17 PM 693 Views
Nope *NM* - 28/10/2012 04:33:40 PM 678 Views
Oh, well I guess Yuna is really who she claims to be then. - 28/10/2012 05:24:03 PM 1061 Views
season 4, episode 17 (google is my friend..) *NM* - 28/10/2012 06:58:20 PM 611 Views
Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. *NM* - 28/10/2012 08:24:47 PM 661 Views
EBWOP This was supposed to be a reply to Taiga's post, above. *NM* - 28/10/2012 08:25:16 PM 741 Views
I concur. - 29/10/2012 02:11:38 AM 1141 Views
Re: I concur. - 29/10/2012 09:03:39 PM 1096 Views
So what's the point? - 30/10/2012 02:32:43 AM 1012 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 10:04:52 AM 1129 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 05:35:31 PM 1074 Views
No, that's option 3 - I get that - 29/10/2012 07:38:27 PM 998 Views
Oh, right. Sorry, I misread that. *NM* - 29/10/2012 11:34:37 PM 606 Views
I don't think that does work. - 30/10/2012 02:34:34 AM 1180 Views
The Cairhien Game - 30/10/2012 03:16:53 AM 997 Views
Yeah, but in the Cairhien game, the Darkfriends were a sideshow . - 30/10/2012 04:05:02 AM 912 Views
I must say that game crosse my mind - 30/10/2012 09:23:30 AM 966 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 06:27:32 PM 1080 Views
Interesting results - 29/10/2012 02:52:26 AM 994 Views
maybe a 4th option? - 29/10/2012 01:20:14 PM 1135 Views
No, I don't think so. - 30/10/2012 02:35:49 AM 1397 Views
It is, but not too likely - 30/10/2012 03:15:31 AM 927 Views
What now? - 31/10/2012 07:39:04 AM 1028 Views
I think we should hear about Night Messages - 31/10/2012 08:50:27 AM 1041 Views
I think Hypocopping would be good idea. *NM* - 31/10/2012 09:36:00 PM 644 Views
You were targeted? - 02/11/2012 12:15:13 AM 960 Views
Why is that anti-town? - 02/11/2012 04:06:54 PM 999 Views
Okay then. - 02/11/2012 05:14:18 PM 925 Views
All kinds of RBIRL - 01/11/2012 04:09:42 AM 1020 Views
We understand - 01/11/2012 08:25:34 AM 1094 Views
Sorry for disappearing, kinda RBIRL - 02/11/2012 12:06:09 AM 1043 Views
Hypocopping [TABLE] [Edit 2] - 02/11/2012 04:12:42 PM 1121 Views
Darth_Katie - not-guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 04:13:07 PM 696 Views
Re: Hypocopping [TABLE] - 02/11/2012 04:46:44 PM 1081 Views
Artsapat - guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 11:52:59 PM 1034 Views
Yunalesca - Guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 05:06:43 PM 735 Views
Isaac - Innocent *NM* - 02/11/2012 05:53:54 PM 749 Views
? - not guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 09:21:10 PM 733 Views
Tagia - Innocent *NM* - 02/11/2012 11:04:51 PM 719 Views
Artsapat - Guilty *NM* - 03/11/2012 05:06:19 AM 679 Views
? - Guilty *NM* - 04/11/2012 03:08:31 AM 695 Views
My understanding of the votes from Yesterday. - 05/11/2012 12:16:56 PM 1206 Views
Well, if even this does not elicit a response in twelve+ hours... - 06/11/2012 07:22:01 AM 1141 Views
I'm not sure if I understand this correctly... - 06/11/2012 07:47:06 AM 1009 Views
Well, I'll give you that I only voted on Ranagrande because deadline was approaching. - 06/11/2012 08:14:45 AM 1065 Views
Re: Well, I'll give you that I only voted on Ranagrande because deadline was approaching. - 07/11/2012 07:43:45 AM 1213 Views
I just don't understand how you can consider these not to be strong enough cases. - 07/11/2012 09:22:50 AM 1069 Views
I still haven't heard the case - 08/11/2012 12:54:48 AM 1033 Views
One of them was the only non-human in a monster-hunting theme. - 13/11/2012 06:41:30 PM 991 Views
Oh, I assumed there was more - 13/11/2012 07:01:54 PM 920 Views
Yuna's role - 06/11/2012 10:16:36 AM 1065 Views
If that is the case, you just made a major blunder. - 06/11/2012 11:41:03 AM 933 Views
... - 06/11/2012 06:13:11 PM 930 Views
*facepalm* - 06/11/2012 04:26:23 PM 982 Views
... what? *NM* - 06/11/2012 05:33:08 PM 615 Views
What ... ? - 07/11/2012 06:23:33 AM 1276 Views
Re: What ... ? - 07/11/2012 09:11:04 AM 949 Views
Most important question! - 07/11/2012 01:34:54 PM 971 Views
Indeed, I noticed that - 07/11/2012 02:41:37 PM 1025 Views
correction: it was a Night Resolution message *NM* - 07/11/2012 11:16:38 PM 603 Views
So you are roled and had a Night Action? *NM* - 08/11/2012 12:34:48 AM 715 Views
No, I was the target of a night action... *NM* - 08/11/2012 07:52:35 AM 744 Views
Strange. Targets of Night Actions wouldn't normally get a Resolution Message. - 08/11/2012 03:57:57 PM 1212 Views
I did...?? - 10/11/2012 03:00:19 PM 918 Views
This one? - 13/11/2012 01:48:19 AM 909 Views
i guess due to Tagia biome's blunder i'd better role claim soon - 07/11/2012 10:53:24 PM 1029 Views
really sorry *NM* - 07/11/2012 11:17:16 PM 660 Views
Well to me... - 08/11/2012 11:03:58 AM 920 Views
I don't see any reason you would need to roleclaim. - 08/11/2012 05:45:53 PM 1039 Views
ok - 08/11/2012 10:00:35 PM 1035 Views
Power! Internet! Bwaha! - 09/11/2012 09:04:18 PM 948 Views
No worries man. - 09/11/2012 10:02:50 PM 992 Views
Nothing too bad... - 09/11/2012 10:22:43 PM 911 Views
I'm working my way through the game now. Would you like a hyppocop? *NM* - 09/11/2012 10:23:15 PM 690 Views
Sure, why not. *NM* - 09/11/2012 11:18:47 PM 647 Views
I found Artsapat Innocent *NM* - 10/11/2012 05:23:20 PM 695 Views
RBIRL - 11/11/2012 09:06:16 AM 1013 Views
So now what? *NM* - 11/11/2012 10:06:43 PM 560 Views
Can I ask for reasons...? - 11/11/2012 10:08:11 PM 1039 Views
Either they investigated/tracked/whatever them and that's the result they got, - 11/11/2012 10:19:05 PM 1069 Views
I feel like I have been advised in past games.... - 13/11/2012 01:43:10 AM 956 Views
Not to 50/50 randomize them, but definitely ot randomize them - 13/11/2012 07:14:08 PM 1000 Views
Ahhh very true *NM* - 13/11/2012 08:42:39 PM 625 Views
Re: So now what? - 12/11/2012 06:46:50 PM 1033 Views
I agree - 12/11/2012 11:11:23 PM 1055 Views
Okay I'll respond to it above *NM* - 13/11/2012 01:44:15 AM 573 Views
Re: So now what? - 13/11/2012 05:18:34 PM 1011 Views
RBIRL until next Monday. - 13/11/2012 03:15:46 AM 1281 Views
*cough cough* - 13/11/2012 03:45:45 PM 920 Views
*NM* - 13/11/2012 05:31:26 PM 475 Views
*NM* - 13/11/2012 05:51:11 PM 665 Views
Well... - 13/11/2012 07:16:36 PM 968 Views
Silly Isaac, of course it does. *NM* - 14/11/2012 07:30:42 PM 746 Views
So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 13/11/2012 07:46:14 PM 1068 Views
Re: So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 14/11/2012 11:04:44 AM 1007 Views
Re: So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 16/11/2012 11:57:26 PM 1031 Views
I should point out... - 14/11/2012 05:48:45 PM 985 Views
Although that doesn't really change anything to your point . - 14/11/2012 05:49:45 PM 1079 Views
Re: Although that doesn't really change anything to your point . - 14/11/2012 09:38:53 PM 1036 Views
RBIRL for a day or so - 15/11/2012 01:47:20 AM 962 Views
Hey, let's kill someone! *NM* - 18/11/2012 12:52:34 AM 681 Views
Well, you already know my favourite . *NM* - 18/11/2012 03:13:53 AM 645 Views
Someone else *NM* - 18/11/2012 03:37:26 AM 686 Views
Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 08:01:38 AM 961 Views
Re: Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 09:58:29 AM 910 Views
Re: Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 02:45:21 PM 1075 Views
sounds like a plan *NM* - 18/11/2012 08:37:24 AM 705 Views
That would seem to take us back to ? and Stephen, or some alternate plan - 18/11/2012 10:24:16 AM 981 Views
I think it is pretty safe to say.... - 18/11/2012 02:13:12 PM 976 Views
Yuna is probably not mafia. - 18/11/2012 07:35:44 PM 863 Views
Sorry for off-radaring for a few days. - 18/11/2012 10:08:57 PM 1027 Views
for myself - 19/11/2012 09:44:03 AM 948 Views
Re: for myself - 19/11/2012 11:27:04 AM 1096 Views
Re: That would seem to take us back to ? and Stephen, or some alternate plan - 19/11/2012 06:11:18 PM 890 Views
time to make a choice - 19/11/2012 08:15:41 PM 993 Views
Hardly anything to defend myself? - 19/11/2012 08:41:32 PM 954 Views
I concur. - 20/11/2012 11:11:11 AM 1036 Views
Also, we still haven't got a decent explanation from Taiga. - 20/11/2012 11:16:41 AM 1005 Views
Re: Also, we still haven't got a decent explanation from Taiga. - 20/11/2012 01:44:15 PM 945 Views
again - 20/11/2012 06:23:22 PM 998 Views
It's not entirely unusual to get messages when targeted by actions... - 20/11/2012 06:57:14 PM 935 Views
Vote: Yunalesca *NM* - 20/11/2012 08:42:05 PM 739 Views
what? why? *NM* - 21/11/2012 12:47:18 AM 611 Views
You sound like a cult leader to me *NM* - 21/11/2012 02:25:52 AM 673 Views
Re: again - 21/11/2012 12:49:49 AM 1043 Views
clarification - 21/11/2012 05:10:41 PM 1004 Views
Well, yeah... - 21/11/2012 06:21:23 PM 905 Views
Umm...Idea. - 22/11/2012 02:05:14 AM 1025 Views
I've considered that... - 22/11/2012 05:27:24 AM 906 Views
Yes I realized that as well... *NM* - 22/11/2012 01:03:15 PM 652 Views
I think I;m happy to vote for yuna right now. - 22/11/2012 02:35:09 AM 987 Views
That's not what it sounded like. *NM* - 22/11/2012 01:12:46 AM 690 Views
what part of 'i have no powers of recruitment' don't you get? - 22/11/2012 10:24:27 AM 1001 Views
The... - 22/11/2012 01:04:05 PM 962 Views
Re: The... - 22/11/2012 01:36:44 PM 965 Views
I'm just throwing this out there. - 18/11/2012 10:13:22 PM 1045 Views
True *NM* - 19/11/2012 12:10:04 AM 703 Views
Ooh... what an interesting idea. - 19/11/2012 07:46:22 PM 905 Views
Unless Rana was a SK, itr doens't change the dynamics of the NK, or lack thereof *NM* - 20/11/2012 05:49:40 AM 635 Views
Yes, well that's what I was starting to wonder. Was Rana acting alone? - 20/11/2012 07:18:37 AM 958 Views
Serial killer and cult leader? - 20/11/2012 08:44:21 PM 1028 Views
RBIRL - 22/11/2012 10:40:44 PM 1045 Views
Find out who's doing the airship mod and tell him to hurry up *NM* - 22/11/2012 11:03:48 PM 581 Views
Right... *NM* - 25/11/2012 05:23:59 PM 630 Views
Left... *NM* - 25/11/2012 09:37:20 PM 701 Views
Ah someone lives! - 25/11/2012 09:58:03 PM 955 Views
Well, so do I? - 26/11/2012 08:26:55 AM 1007 Views
I do live too.. - 26/11/2012 09:14:02 AM 993 Views
Where did you vote? - 26/11/2012 07:04:22 PM 981 Views
*cough* Sorry about that. It's there now. *NM* - 26/11/2012 08:01:29 PM 660 Views
Unvote - 26/11/2012 06:34:47 PM 993 Views
But that'd make three scum... - 26/11/2012 08:40:36 PM 974 Views
Before we hammer here... can we get a RC from Stephen? - 26/11/2012 11:10:57 PM 1272 Views
Sure, why not. - 26/11/2012 11:39:02 PM 1009 Views
Sure me too *NM* - 27/11/2012 03:23:42 AM 661 Views
Sounds like a plan. *NM* - 27/11/2012 05:39:17 AM 664 Views
I concur.. *NM* - 28/11/2012 09:24:35 AM 647 Views
Sorry, I've been ill. - 28/11/2012 02:46:20 PM 1040 Views
Feeling better? *NM* - 29/11/2012 01:00:52 AM 666 Views
I'm mostly recovered. - 29/11/2012 01:37:50 AM 1009 Views
That's a bold claim. - 29/11/2012 03:28:43 AM 909 Views
Well, I have suspected Taiga from pretty much the first minute as I have previously documented. - 29/11/2012 02:01:37 PM 1024 Views
Why would you Watch someone you suspected? You track them - Vote: Stephen - 29/11/2012 06:13:20 PM 1086 Views
Vote: Stephen - 30/11/2012 06:38:59 AM 997 Views
Well, I guess I'm technically lynched. - 30/11/2012 01:53:13 PM 1088 Views
Ouch. - 30/11/2012 04:38:45 PM 1001 Views
That makes quite alot sense actually. Vote:Stephen *NM* - 30/11/2012 09:01:01 AM 658 Views
back from Minecon...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz *NM* - 26/11/2012 07:16:28 PM 632 Views
Twilight - 30/11/2012 03:58:02 PM 1086 Views
Day 3 should be starting within a day or two *NM* - 05/12/2012 03:36:38 PM 638 Views
...and you expect still to end it before X-mas ^^ *NM* - 05/12/2012 06:47:57 PM 691 Views

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