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So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga Isaac Send a noteboard - 13/11/2012 07:46:14 PM
Thanks Artsapat for compiling the vote table:

Rana: Darth_Katie, Artsapat, Bergioyn, Yunalesca, Taiga, Fanatic-Templar, Isaac

Now we can dismiss DK, Artsapat, and Bergioyn of being scum I think because it's pretty weird to bus that early on a case that amounted to 'Isn't here', no reason to bus that.

Yuna and Taiga we can't because they were also accused and bussing an ally that's absolutely absent in favor of not dying is common sense.

FT and I are still on the hook, neither of us would hesitate to hammer an ally who was absent and my defense that I don't like to bus people only applies if I have time to defend them meaningfully, I didn't so realistically I could see myself performing triage that way.

Still a vote for is always a bit less suspicious then a vote for someone else or a non-vote and ? and Stephen did vote for other people.

In this case though I just think I'm going off what I know of Rana. He's been my ally on the dark side a lot of times and I know how he thinks, if he had been trying to build a BS frame case he'd have picked the non-scooby non-new-player - Yuna, not the non-human new player, Taiga.

He didn't, and that's weird, because that's the better case to fry as FT has rmeinded me and I find myself a bit surprised I didn't turn guns on Lucy for that, and I absolutely would have if I'd been a scummer and been paying attention. In fact I can't see missing that at all if I'd been scum. Nobody likes killing brand new players on Day 1, and non-human just isn't a case.

My guess, Rana figured he was going to die and voted for his ally so that when he died scum, as modkill or lynchee, Taiga would look more innocent. It fits him, he using bussing freely. If Taiga died he'd be clean for the rest of the game and if he died Taiga would be. It's not ironclad but I can't see Rana going for that lynch as a scapegoat and we know he'd be looking for one, not for a guilty party, since he was scum. He'd want someone he could fry easiest and non-human isn't enough to lynch off of even on day 1, not for a brand new player. Not with better targets.

So I think it's Taiga, but I'm not voting yet because I still haven't digested most of the posts in the game yet and might be missing something important. Thoughts?
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Day 2: Superstar - 28/10/2012 03:45:56 PM 2055 Views
Current Votes: STEPHEN HAS BEEN LYNCHED - 28/10/2012 03:47:08 PM 1166 Views
Nobody died? *NM* - 28/10/2012 04:22:17 PM 716 Views
Nope *NM* - 28/10/2012 04:33:40 PM 700 Views
Oh, well I guess Yuna is really who she claims to be then. - 28/10/2012 05:24:03 PM 1116 Views
season 4, episode 17 (google is my friend..) *NM* - 28/10/2012 06:58:20 PM 631 Views
Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. *NM* - 28/10/2012 08:24:47 PM 682 Views
EBWOP This was supposed to be a reply to Taiga's post, above. *NM* - 28/10/2012 08:25:16 PM 760 Views
I concur. - 29/10/2012 02:11:38 AM 1183 Views
Re: I concur. - 29/10/2012 09:03:39 PM 1133 Views
So what's the point? - 30/10/2012 02:32:43 AM 1064 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 10:04:52 AM 1179 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 05:35:31 PM 1124 Views
No, that's option 3 - I get that - 29/10/2012 07:38:27 PM 1037 Views
Oh, right. Sorry, I misread that. *NM* - 29/10/2012 11:34:37 PM 628 Views
I don't think that does work. - 30/10/2012 02:34:34 AM 1215 Views
The Cairhien Game - 30/10/2012 03:16:53 AM 1043 Views
Yeah, but in the Cairhien game, the Darkfriends were a sideshow . - 30/10/2012 04:05:02 AM 950 Views
I must say that game crosse my mind - 30/10/2012 09:23:30 AM 1003 Views
Re: Jonathan is precisely who Yunalesca claimed to be. - 29/10/2012 06:27:32 PM 1135 Views
Interesting results - 29/10/2012 02:52:26 AM 1036 Views
maybe a 4th option? - 29/10/2012 01:20:14 PM 1175 Views
No, I don't think so. - 30/10/2012 02:35:49 AM 1440 Views
It is, but not too likely - 30/10/2012 03:15:31 AM 984 Views
What now? - 31/10/2012 07:39:04 AM 1068 Views
I think we should hear about Night Messages - 31/10/2012 08:50:27 AM 1082 Views
I think Hypocopping would be good idea. *NM* - 31/10/2012 09:36:00 PM 659 Views
You were targeted? - 02/11/2012 12:15:13 AM 1005 Views
Why is that anti-town? - 02/11/2012 04:06:54 PM 1045 Views
Okay then. - 02/11/2012 05:14:18 PM 965 Views
All kinds of RBIRL - 01/11/2012 04:09:42 AM 1067 Views
We understand - 01/11/2012 08:25:34 AM 1150 Views
Sorry for disappearing, kinda RBIRL - 02/11/2012 12:06:09 AM 1092 Views
Hypocopping [TABLE] [Edit 2] - 02/11/2012 04:12:42 PM 1152 Views
Darth_Katie - not-guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 04:13:07 PM 719 Views
Re: Hypocopping [TABLE] - 02/11/2012 04:46:44 PM 1130 Views
Artsapat - guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 11:52:59 PM 1057 Views
Yunalesca - Guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 05:06:43 PM 749 Views
Isaac - Innocent *NM* - 02/11/2012 05:53:54 PM 768 Views
? - not guilty *NM* - 02/11/2012 09:21:10 PM 753 Views
Tagia - Innocent *NM* - 02/11/2012 11:04:51 PM 735 Views
Artsapat - Guilty *NM* - 03/11/2012 05:06:19 AM 702 Views
? - Guilty *NM* - 04/11/2012 03:08:31 AM 717 Views
My understanding of the votes from Yesterday. - 05/11/2012 12:16:56 PM 1247 Views
Well, if even this does not elicit a response in twelve+ hours... - 06/11/2012 07:22:01 AM 1190 Views
I'm not sure if I understand this correctly... - 06/11/2012 07:47:06 AM 1048 Views
Well, I'll give you that I only voted on Ranagrande because deadline was approaching. - 06/11/2012 08:14:45 AM 1102 Views
Re: Well, I'll give you that I only voted on Ranagrande because deadline was approaching. - 07/11/2012 07:43:45 AM 1251 Views
I just don't understand how you can consider these not to be strong enough cases. - 07/11/2012 09:22:50 AM 1115 Views
I still haven't heard the case - 08/11/2012 12:54:48 AM 1071 Views
One of them was the only non-human in a monster-hunting theme. - 13/11/2012 06:41:30 PM 1025 Views
Oh, I assumed there was more - 13/11/2012 07:01:54 PM 958 Views
Yuna's role - 06/11/2012 10:16:36 AM 1101 Views
If that is the case, you just made a major blunder. - 06/11/2012 11:41:03 AM 979 Views
... - 06/11/2012 06:13:11 PM 959 Views
*facepalm* - 06/11/2012 04:26:23 PM 1016 Views
... what? *NM* - 06/11/2012 05:33:08 PM 634 Views
What ... ? - 07/11/2012 06:23:33 AM 1327 Views
Re: What ... ? - 07/11/2012 09:11:04 AM 992 Views
Most important question! - 07/11/2012 01:34:54 PM 1010 Views
Indeed, I noticed that - 07/11/2012 02:41:37 PM 1059 Views
correction: it was a Night Resolution message *NM* - 07/11/2012 11:16:38 PM 622 Views
So you are roled and had a Night Action? *NM* - 08/11/2012 12:34:48 AM 735 Views
No, I was the target of a night action... *NM* - 08/11/2012 07:52:35 AM 821 Views
Strange. Targets of Night Actions wouldn't normally get a Resolution Message. - 08/11/2012 03:57:57 PM 1249 Views
I did...?? - 10/11/2012 03:00:19 PM 955 Views
This one? - 13/11/2012 01:48:19 AM 941 Views
i guess due to Tagia biome's blunder i'd better role claim soon - 07/11/2012 10:53:24 PM 1070 Views
really sorry *NM* - 07/11/2012 11:17:16 PM 681 Views
Well to me... - 08/11/2012 11:03:58 AM 970 Views
I don't see any reason you would need to roleclaim. - 08/11/2012 05:45:53 PM 1073 Views
ok - 08/11/2012 10:00:35 PM 1068 Views
Power! Internet! Bwaha! - 09/11/2012 09:04:18 PM 993 Views
No worries man. - 09/11/2012 10:02:50 PM 1034 Views
Nothing too bad... - 09/11/2012 10:22:43 PM 951 Views
I'm working my way through the game now. Would you like a hyppocop? *NM* - 09/11/2012 10:23:15 PM 710 Views
Sure, why not. *NM* - 09/11/2012 11:18:47 PM 725 Views
I found Artsapat Innocent *NM* - 10/11/2012 05:23:20 PM 732 Views
RBIRL - 11/11/2012 09:06:16 AM 1049 Views
So now what? *NM* - 11/11/2012 10:06:43 PM 583 Views
Can I ask for reasons...? - 11/11/2012 10:08:11 PM 1135 Views
Either they investigated/tracked/whatever them and that's the result they got, - 11/11/2012 10:19:05 PM 1104 Views
I feel like I have been advised in past games.... - 13/11/2012 01:43:10 AM 980 Views
Not to 50/50 randomize them, but definitely ot randomize them - 13/11/2012 07:14:08 PM 1046 Views
Ahhh very true *NM* - 13/11/2012 08:42:39 PM 643 Views
Re: So now what? - 12/11/2012 06:46:50 PM 1071 Views
I agree - 12/11/2012 11:11:23 PM 1083 Views
Okay I'll respond to it above *NM* - 13/11/2012 01:44:15 AM 592 Views
Re: So now what? - 13/11/2012 05:18:34 PM 1049 Views
RBIRL until next Monday. - 13/11/2012 03:15:46 AM 1325 Views
*cough cough* - 13/11/2012 03:45:45 PM 950 Views
*NM* - 13/11/2012 05:31:26 PM 490 Views
*NM* - 13/11/2012 05:51:11 PM 683 Views
Well... - 13/11/2012 07:16:36 PM 1004 Views
Silly Isaac, of course it does. *NM* - 14/11/2012 07:30:42 PM 766 Views
So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 13/11/2012 07:46:14 PM 1109 Views
Re: So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 14/11/2012 11:04:44 AM 1052 Views
Re: So some thoughts... also FOS: Taiga - 16/11/2012 11:57:26 PM 1076 Views
I should point out... - 14/11/2012 05:48:45 PM 1092 Views
Although that doesn't really change anything to your point . - 14/11/2012 05:49:45 PM 1128 Views
Re: Although that doesn't really change anything to your point . - 14/11/2012 09:38:53 PM 1076 Views
RBIRL for a day or so - 15/11/2012 01:47:20 AM 1001 Views
Hey, let's kill someone! *NM* - 18/11/2012 12:52:34 AM 696 Views
Well, you already know my favourite . *NM* - 18/11/2012 03:13:53 AM 669 Views
Someone else *NM* - 18/11/2012 03:37:26 AM 704 Views
Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 08:01:38 AM 1006 Views
Re: Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 09:58:29 AM 956 Views
Re: Yeah, I'll probably do that. - 18/11/2012 02:45:21 PM 1120 Views
sounds like a plan *NM* - 18/11/2012 08:37:24 AM 780 Views
That would seem to take us back to ? and Stephen, or some alternate plan - 18/11/2012 10:24:16 AM 1021 Views
I think it is pretty safe to say.... - 18/11/2012 02:13:12 PM 1020 Views
Yuna is probably not mafia. - 18/11/2012 07:35:44 PM 908 Views
Sorry for off-radaring for a few days. - 18/11/2012 10:08:57 PM 1075 Views
for myself - 19/11/2012 09:44:03 AM 980 Views
Re: for myself - 19/11/2012 11:27:04 AM 1144 Views
Re: That would seem to take us back to ? and Stephen, or some alternate plan - 19/11/2012 06:11:18 PM 924 Views
time to make a choice - 19/11/2012 08:15:41 PM 1028 Views
Hardly anything to defend myself? - 19/11/2012 08:41:32 PM 989 Views
I concur. - 20/11/2012 11:11:11 AM 1080 Views
Also, we still haven't got a decent explanation from Taiga. - 20/11/2012 11:16:41 AM 1039 Views
Re: Also, we still haven't got a decent explanation from Taiga. - 20/11/2012 01:44:15 PM 986 Views
again - 20/11/2012 06:23:22 PM 1034 Views
It's not entirely unusual to get messages when targeted by actions... - 20/11/2012 06:57:14 PM 970 Views
Vote: Yunalesca *NM* - 20/11/2012 08:42:05 PM 814 Views
what? why? *NM* - 21/11/2012 12:47:18 AM 634 Views
You sound like a cult leader to me *NM* - 21/11/2012 02:25:52 AM 698 Views
Re: again - 21/11/2012 12:49:49 AM 1076 Views
clarification - 21/11/2012 05:10:41 PM 1036 Views
Well, yeah... - 21/11/2012 06:21:23 PM 955 Views
Umm...Idea. - 22/11/2012 02:05:14 AM 1058 Views
I've considered that... - 22/11/2012 05:27:24 AM 948 Views
Yes I realized that as well... *NM* - 22/11/2012 01:03:15 PM 670 Views
I think I;m happy to vote for yuna right now. - 22/11/2012 02:35:09 AM 1029 Views
That's not what it sounded like. *NM* - 22/11/2012 01:12:46 AM 709 Views
what part of 'i have no powers of recruitment' don't you get? - 22/11/2012 10:24:27 AM 1040 Views
The... - 22/11/2012 01:04:05 PM 999 Views
Re: The... - 22/11/2012 01:36:44 PM 1011 Views
I'm just throwing this out there. - 18/11/2012 10:13:22 PM 1091 Views
True *NM* - 19/11/2012 12:10:04 AM 722 Views
Ooh... what an interesting idea. - 19/11/2012 07:46:22 PM 937 Views
Unless Rana was a SK, itr doens't change the dynamics of the NK, or lack thereof *NM* - 20/11/2012 05:49:40 AM 661 Views
Yes, well that's what I was starting to wonder. Was Rana acting alone? - 20/11/2012 07:18:37 AM 997 Views
Serial killer and cult leader? - 20/11/2012 08:44:21 PM 1070 Views
RBIRL - 22/11/2012 10:40:44 PM 1076 Views
Find out who's doing the airship mod and tell him to hurry up *NM* - 22/11/2012 11:03:48 PM 602 Views
Right... *NM* - 25/11/2012 05:23:59 PM 648 Views
Left... *NM* - 25/11/2012 09:37:20 PM 721 Views
Ah someone lives! - 25/11/2012 09:58:03 PM 997 Views
Well, so do I? - 26/11/2012 08:26:55 AM 1048 Views
I do live too.. - 26/11/2012 09:14:02 AM 1042 Views
Where did you vote? - 26/11/2012 07:04:22 PM 1022 Views
*cough* Sorry about that. It's there now. *NM* - 26/11/2012 08:01:29 PM 681 Views
Unvote - 26/11/2012 06:34:47 PM 1028 Views
But that'd make three scum... - 26/11/2012 08:40:36 PM 1019 Views
Before we hammer here... can we get a RC from Stephen? - 26/11/2012 11:10:57 PM 1313 Views
Sure, why not. - 26/11/2012 11:39:02 PM 1052 Views
Sure me too *NM* - 27/11/2012 03:23:42 AM 679 Views
Sounds like a plan. *NM* - 27/11/2012 05:39:17 AM 678 Views
I concur.. *NM* - 28/11/2012 09:24:35 AM 667 Views
Sorry, I've been ill. - 28/11/2012 02:46:20 PM 1074 Views
Feeling better? *NM* - 29/11/2012 01:00:52 AM 686 Views
I'm mostly recovered. - 29/11/2012 01:37:50 AM 1059 Views
That's a bold claim. - 29/11/2012 03:28:43 AM 951 Views
Well, I have suspected Taiga from pretty much the first minute as I have previously documented. - 29/11/2012 02:01:37 PM 1073 Views
Why would you Watch someone you suspected? You track them - Vote: Stephen - 29/11/2012 06:13:20 PM 1146 Views
Vote: Stephen - 30/11/2012 06:38:59 AM 1037 Views
Well, I guess I'm technically lynched. - 30/11/2012 01:53:13 PM 1126 Views
Ouch. - 30/11/2012 04:38:45 PM 1037 Views
That makes quite alot sense actually. Vote:Stephen *NM* - 30/11/2012 09:01:01 AM 675 Views
back from Minecon...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz *NM* - 26/11/2012 07:16:28 PM 651 Views
Twilight - 30/11/2012 03:58:02 PM 1128 Views
Day 3 should be starting within a day or two *NM* - 05/12/2012 03:36:38 PM 659 Views
...and you expect still to end it before X-mas ^^ *NM* - 05/12/2012 06:47:57 PM 711 Views

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