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Vote: Beetnemesis Isaac Send a noteboard - 15/08/2012 05:16:10 PM
I remember the situation that led to that agreement- it was becoming, basically, "Oh, Isaac is skilled and vocal enough that we had better kill him as soon as possible."

Which, admittedly, sucks. That's not what I'm doing here, though.

OK, I'll try to articulate why I'm suspicious of you:

1. You're posting enough to stay visible, but haven't voiced suspicion of anyone.


I don't have any, I'm posting enough to stay visible because I'm very RBIRL and pre-occupied, hence the comments like "I'll follow your lead", I'm saying I don't think I can run the ball, but I'm here enough to examine a comprehensive case if one is posted and I'll back it if it doesn't leak like a sieve.

Actually, have you even done the "pick a person to make a case against" thing that we're all doing?


Yes, I picked you. But I'm also going to remind anyone that on the historical scale, possibly excepting FT, I've got way more such occasions of doing that and feel my RBIRL state, a very rare thing for me, conjoined with that past, should get me a pass.

Classic scum activity is to let the town present a lynch target and then agree, so it can't be traced to you. I find it a little... suspicious... that suddenly eyes are moving towards me, eh?


You did vote for me, I do generally get suspicious of that.

2. You've gotten cocky.


Gotten? I always am.

You said yourself that people rarely try to lynch you, and I think that it's made you overconfident.


To the contrary, it makes me paranoid. Like now I'm assuming you are attempting to rally action against me by trying to convince people I should be lynched on principal. Why? You've focused in on me in detail here and taken well poisoning actions to present things which 'aren't suspicious' as suspicious. That's always a telltale. If they aren't suspicious why bring them up? What's suspicious about me being inactive? That it's uncommon? True but hardly scummy, Artsapat accused me earlier of being more outspoken when scum, so which is it? Could it be that I'm just pretty busy? That would make sense, here's a theory:

Isaac's posting rate and word count are directly related to how busy he is and how engaged in the game he is

And considering I'm on record - and my what a lengthy record it is - of being very outspoken as both town and scum I think the theory above is most plausible. Also very obvious so one wonders why you'd bypass it. Or why you'd seek to poison the well against me by essentially trying to ignite the concept that I should be lynched because I'm cocky and don't get lynched much... weird that, why now? In a game in which I'm least engaged at the moment? What's your motive?

3. You muddy the waters.

People have accused you of getting verbose when you're scum, but that's not true. However, you do become more convoluted, both with your plans and explanations. Earlier, in this post: http://www.readandfindout.com/rpg/messageboard/257420/ you came up with a plan similar to what we're doing now, except with an interesting voting system.


And I come up with the Day 1 lull breaker plan in most games, its normal behavior as town or scum, so why are you cherry picking?

I'm not saying it was a BAD plan- you generally try to stay as pro-town as possible, I've noticed- but it was complex, and would do very well in tracking everyone's intentions.


Again, why are you cherry picking a plan that you yourself say was a not a bad one?

Anyway. Those are some of the reasons I want to lynch you.


And there we get to it, your reasons are thin, what it really is is you want me lynched so here's the rational offered to others, but those aren't your motives, those are clearly things selected after the fact to sway people. So what are your actual motives?
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Cornell *NM* - 19/08/2012 10:31:44 PM 613 Views
how is he? - 16/08/2012 09:43:49 PM 951 Views
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Re: What are we tracking as the current vote count anyway? - 19/08/2012 11:17:48 AM 959 Views
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I can't believe you missed that in the first post. - 19/08/2012 11:45:42 AM 1033 Views
I usually ride in on an email link *NM* - 19/08/2012 04:00:25 PM 667 Views
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Well, I gues that's SOMETHING - 20/08/2012 10:51:36 AM 1105 Views
Then I'll join the vote against Beetnemesis. - 20/08/2012 05:00:16 PM 1054 Views
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That wasn't the case in its entire... - 20/08/2012 05:22:26 PM 1035 Views
Obviously you are a demon *NM* - 21/08/2012 05:14:12 AM 717 Views
That goes without saying. But we're supposed to lynch mafia, not demons. *NM* - 21/08/2012 06:25:31 AM 656 Views
I have returned! - 22/08/2012 01:35:32 AM 919 Views
Roleclaim: Fantasio, (Spirou's best friend) - 22/08/2012 05:32:16 PM 1086 Views
Re: Roleclaim: Fantasio, (Spirou's best friend) - 22/08/2012 06:17:04 PM 1050 Views
You are a modern day Atticus Finch *NM* - 22/08/2012 08:21:28 PM 672 Views
So true *NM* - 22/08/2012 10:37:23 PM 645 Views
Unvote - 22/08/2012 11:16:02 PM 1101 Views
See, I've got a slight problem with that - 23/08/2012 07:52:11 AM 1091 Views
Hm I have no such sentence... - 23/08/2012 12:36:58 PM 1075 Views
I don't either but I can somewhat confirm that, also Beet lied, clearly and totally - 23/08/2012 05:18:41 PM 1107 Views
This is all true... *NM* - 23/08/2012 06:13:55 PM 714 Views
Good characters being good is far more reasonable than the opposite. - 24/08/2012 04:23:16 AM 1081 Views
6/7 or 5/7 games with named characters it was a horrible gauge - 24/08/2012 05:20:23 AM 1220 Views
I still say those previous games are irrelevant. Here's why: - 24/08/2012 05:32:55 AM 1101 Views
I can't agree here Dan - 24/08/2012 05:51:53 AM 1235 Views
(it's nothing personal) - 24/08/2012 03:29:00 PM 1069 Views
Quickly going over those you provided... - 24/08/2012 07:33:01 AM 995 Views
my anime game - 25/08/2012 02:21:57 PM 1093 Views
What? - 23/08/2012 03:43:24 PM 1082 Views
And that's pretty unbelievable too - 23/08/2012 07:07:35 PM 987 Views
This whole answer sounds to me... - 23/08/2012 07:17:34 PM 970 Views
So, you think I am an evil version of Fantasio? *NM* - 24/08/2012 12:31:14 AM 673 Views
I have NEVER claimed "secret intel," and I haven't claimed a role, either - 24/08/2012 12:30:08 AM 1100 Views
How curious. - 23/08/2012 04:35:48 PM 1072 Views
Okay. - 23/08/2012 06:13:37 PM 1021 Views
Re: Okay. - 24/08/2012 04:23:18 AM 1025 Views
I'm as certain as I can be, given the circumstances. - 23/08/2012 07:14:33 PM 1061 Views
Vote: beetnemesis *NM* - 23/08/2012 08:10:38 PM 663 Views
Vote: beetnemesis - 23/08/2012 08:30:33 PM 1140 Views
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o...k, i have food poisoning and come back to this? - 24/08/2012 12:58:49 AM 956 Views
Because I character claimed as Fantasio, which means I am evil Fantasio - 24/08/2012 01:03:06 AM 1219 Views
Interesting way of putting it... - 24/08/2012 03:02:39 AM 1059 Views
Re: Interesting way of putting it... - 24/08/2012 05:45:59 AM 1195 Views
Re: Interesting way of putting it... - 24/08/2012 06:03:02 AM 1005 Views
Re: Interesting way of putting it... - 24/08/2012 07:07:29 AM 1106 Views
Re: Interesting way of putting it... - 24/08/2012 07:38:22 AM 1136 Views
Re: Interesting way of putting it... - 24/08/2012 08:14:39 AM 1131 Views
Oh yeah he should be dead shouldn't he? *NM* - 24/08/2012 11:31:59 AM 739 Views
Probably post-hammer so... - 24/08/2012 05:58:04 AM 1313 Views
No problem with that. *NM* - 24/08/2012 01:02:56 PM 693 Views
Wait so what exactly do you want us to do? - 24/08/2012 09:19:12 PM 1169 Views
Any reasonable compact account - 24/08/2012 10:39:31 PM 1020 Views
...Well memory really isn't my thing... *NM* - 25/08/2012 03:51:10 AM 690 Views
My memory is awful, besides you write well - 25/08/2012 04:12:02 AM 1066 Views
Hmm trying to flatter me into doing the work eh? *NM* - 25/08/2012 07:05:08 PM 619 Views
If it works *NM* - 25/08/2012 07:48:12 PM 676 Views
...It might. - 25/08/2012 09:27:59 PM 1170 Views
Augh! I got nothing... - 26/08/2012 02:43:37 AM 1071 Views
What about your first game or your first Mod? - 27/08/2012 01:32:47 AM 1038 Views
I only remember the basis of my first game... - 27/08/2012 01:50:48 AM 1033 Views
That'll do Now who to guilt trip? *NM* - 27/08/2012 02:29:16 AM 633 Views
I totally remember that. Napoleon, right? You guys kept accidentally posting as one another. *NM* - 25/08/2012 12:31:05 AM 617 Views
Haha yeah that's him... - 25/08/2012 03:50:38 AM 1075 Views
I do... That was annoying. *NM* - 25/08/2012 08:49:45 AM 601 Views
Sorry. *NM* - 25/08/2012 07:06:07 PM 673 Views
Just kidding - 26/08/2012 10:15:19 AM 973 Views
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