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That does still leave a major loophole. ranagrande Send a noteboard - 06/08/2011 09:44:15 PM
Nah, he'll tie himself on the hammer vote, so no auto-death, then each participant in the duel gets to select RPS, he'd just pick scissors for the hammer and rock for the lynchee, so he'd lose and owe himself a boon and we'd go into night phase. Day ends if the lynchee wins or loses their duel, only continues if the hammer refuses the challenge. Obviously we can't have people dueling themselves to indefinitely escape being lynched though, barring well coordinated agreements for two players to slap a vote on at nearly the same time... so the most obvious solutions is just to ban self-voting, or at least self-hammering during the game, I just want to think it over and make sure that doesn't open up some new can of worms before finalizing it.

Using a very similar mechanism, the mafia could arrange to hammer each other and rig their duels so as to be unlynchable.

I'm sorry I didn't notice these things earlier so I could let you know, Isaac. As I said, I've been extraordinarily busy of late and I didn't look very closely at the dueling rules until it become apparent that I was today's chosen scapegoat.
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Re: Sidenote: "In accordance with the survey?" - 25/07/2011 03:48:57 AM 1784 Views
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Cool, I'll make a seperate thread about it. - 27/07/2011 06:36:31 PM 1773 Views
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Re: Hm. So, what are our priorities? - 28/07/2011 06:38:26 PM 1628 Views
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This is discussed in the updates, particular #2... the posts with the lightsabers *NM* - 30/07/2011 11:37:41 PM 965 Views
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Re: Well, OK- we've got 5 more days, let's try to make some headway. - 01/08/2011 01:56:45 PM 1706 Views
It might be me... - 01/08/2011 03:51:50 PM 1743 Views
If you're constantly RBIRL, why would lynching you be a mistake? - 01/08/2011 03:55:42 PM 1673 Views
Re: If you're constantly RBIRL, why would lynching you be a mistake? - 01/08/2011 11:51:39 PM 1677 Views
could be me as well, my posts are still in single figures - 01/08/2011 04:13:58 PM 1756 Views
we really are running on nothin' - 01/08/2011 09:23:01 PM 1623 Views
Seems suboptimal. - 01/08/2011 09:50:38 PM 1715 Views
My thoughts exactly. - 01/08/2011 11:16:43 PM 1717 Views
Re: Seems suboptimal. - 01/08/2011 11:52:55 PM 1766 Views
Me, Yuna, and Rana - 02/08/2011 01:45:02 AM 1708 Views
Everybody. - 02/08/2011 04:08:53 AM 1733 Views
How about this? - 02/08/2011 01:41:57 PM 1693 Views
Fair enough. I forgot we had a deadline. - 02/08/2011 06:28:04 PM 1647 Views
Re: Fair enough. I forgot we had a deadline. - 02/08/2011 06:33:46 PM 1612 Views
I got there too late. - 02/08/2011 06:53:10 PM 1661 Views
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no *NM* - 03/08/2011 04:11:23 PM 900 Views
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He seemed busy, mostly. - 02/08/2011 04:11:45 AM 1747 Views
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Re: Another possibility - 02/08/2011 01:40:23 PM 1728 Views
True- he DID have a "Ritual Knife," after all - 02/08/2011 01:59:43 PM 1700 Views
Re: True- he DID have a "Ritual Knife," after all - 02/08/2011 02:16:37 PM 1666 Views
Interesting thought. - 02/08/2011 06:48:18 PM 1654 Views
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My thoughts are quite similar. - 03/08/2011 03:41:15 AM 1682 Views
Re: My thoughts are quite similar. - 03/08/2011 01:25:59 PM 1715 Views
That's not how initiative worked- rana could have shown up first - 03/08/2011 02:25:24 PM 1734 Views
Re: That's not how initiative worked- rana could have shown up first - 03/08/2011 03:47:17 PM 1740 Views
Re: My thoughts are quite similar. - 03/08/2011 06:08:01 PM 1795 Views
Re: My thoughts are quite similar. - 03/08/2011 06:09:12 PM 1779 Views
Would you mind breaking it down into a simple timeline? - 03/08/2011 04:08:52 AM 1660 Views
Re: Would you mind breaking it down into a simple timeline? - 03/08/2011 01:19:34 PM 1695 Views
Cool, thanks. Unfortunately, I still think anyone could be guilty. - 03/08/2011 02:33:06 PM 1701 Views
One thing - 03/08/2011 08:53:48 PM 1779 Views
Yeah. - 04/08/2011 12:24:59 AM 1757 Views
I think that would give them way too much power. - 04/08/2011 12:37:20 AM 1784 Views
Slip of the tongue? - 03/08/2011 02:42:54 PM 1695 Views
I saw them when I went up to his room - 03/08/2011 08:58:42 PM 1703 Views
Right now, we have about 2.5 days left. - 04/08/2011 01:12:06 PM 1711 Views
Hm. I honestly suspect everyone pretty equally - 04/08/2011 02:10:59 PM 1663 Views
Re: Hm. I honestly suspect everyone pretty equally - 04/08/2011 02:51:00 PM 1913 Views
You left out another obvious possibility. - 06/08/2011 01:52:29 PM 1726 Views
ohhh - 06/08/2011 01:59:02 PM 1654 Views
im holding my vote for now - 04/08/2011 11:41:10 PM 1696 Views
I would but I feel like that woul dbe irrelevant for this lynch anyway so why bother? - 05/08/2011 01:21:29 AM 1627 Views
Hmm - 05/08/2011 10:17:44 PM 1685 Views
Re: Hmm - 05/08/2011 10:30:48 PM 1578 Views
Note on Deadlines and Duelling - 04/08/2011 07:25:19 PM 1770 Views
Vote Record - 04/08/2011 07:32:25 PM 1720 Views
Right, so we're down to the wire- ranagrande or Yuna? *NM* - 05/08/2011 01:45:55 PM 937 Views
Not sure, though I'd err toward rana. - 05/08/2011 02:00:29 PM 1718 Views
Ok, I think its time we try and do something - 05/08/2011 06:43:37 PM 1705 Views
I'm calling for a RC of ranagrande before we pull the trigger. - 05/08/2011 06:58:26 PM 1723 Views
Good idea. Ooh, who want to duel him? - 05/08/2011 07:42:51 PM 1561 Views
I'll vote for him. - 05/08/2011 11:17:37 PM 1787 Views
I suppose I'll roleclaim if one more person votes. - 06/08/2011 01:45:21 PM 1546 Views
Here: Vote: Ranagrande - 06/08/2011 06:09:12 PM 1744 Views
As I said, lynching me would be a mistake. - 06/08/2011 01:41:31 PM 1747 Views
Haha, what? - 06/08/2011 02:14:51 PM 1640 Views
I think he's trying to say he's a notorious busser. *NM* - 06/08/2011 02:54:29 PM 855 Views
what a thing to be proud of *waggles finger at rana* boo hiss boo *NM* - 06/08/2011 05:03:03 PM 929 Views
That doesn't really make sense. - 06/08/2011 10:15:02 PM 1688 Views
Vote: ranagrande - 06/08/2011 08:50:40 PM 1628 Views
I won't stand for this! I challenge you to a duel! *NM* - 06/08/2011 08:51:12 PM 846 Views
Very well. I accept. *NM* - 06/08/2011 08:51:30 PM 934 Views
Huh, I confess I didn't actually think of that - 06/08/2011 08:57:32 PM 1687 Views
... - 06/08/2011 09:03:20 PM 1640 Views
lol you could just make it so a play can't vote for themselves. - 06/08/2011 09:17:08 PM 1726 Views
Not quite. - 06/08/2011 09:21:56 PM 1795 Views
Oh. - 07/08/2011 11:58:29 AM 1695 Views
That's probably what I'll have to do - 06/08/2011 09:33:55 PM 1734 Views
That does still leave a major loophole. - 06/08/2011 09:44:15 PM 1761 Views
That one I've got covered - 06/08/2011 10:14:03 PM 1806 Views
Well, there's one thing I was wondering about. - 06/08/2011 10:12:01 PM 1719 Views
Ha, ha, ha! Genius! *NM* - 06/08/2011 10:08:30 PM 927 Views
clearly Genius has turned to madness *NM* - 06/08/2011 10:13:58 PM 917 Views
Same thing really. Genius is madness to those who can't appreciate it . - 06/08/2011 10:18:26 PM 1646 Views
awh and i was hoping for that meme from 300 to be the reply - 06/08/2011 10:45:12 PM 1726 Views
Sorry, I'm pro-Athenian - 06/08/2011 10:53:30 PM 1697 Views
Roleclaim. - 06/08/2011 09:12:29 PM 1670 Views
Re: Roleclaim. - 07/08/2011 02:34:35 AM 1690 Views
True. Actions speak louder than words, in this case. - 07/08/2011 09:25:26 PM 1749 Views
I will. - 07/08/2011 11:00:42 PM 1732 Views
Should you choose to accept... - 08/08/2011 12:34:18 AM 1705 Views
Okay... - 06/08/2011 10:23:46 PM 1733 Views
Rbirl - 07/08/2011 01:53:35 AM 1673 Views
Lynch Reached - Duel Pending - 08/08/2011 12:26:25 AM 1659 Views
Eh, I'm busy anyway. - 08/08/2011 01:50:30 AM 1856 Views
Oh, bummer. - 08/08/2011 02:27:57 AM 1767 Views
Booooo! - 08/08/2011 03:48:28 AM 1637 Views
No. - 08/08/2011 12:59:21 PM 1745 Views
You really think you looked that innocent? - 08/08/2011 01:18:36 PM 1654 Views
Lynch Pending - 08/08/2011 03:53:47 PM 2214 Views
Twilight - 08/08/2011 11:14:56 PM 1805 Views
Probably be Thursday morning before Day 2 starts - 11/08/2011 12:29:55 AM 1820 Views

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