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That does still leave a major loophole. ranagrande Send a noteboard - 06/08/2011 09:44:15 PM
Nah, he'll tie himself on the hammer vote, so no auto-death, then each participant in the duel gets to select RPS, he'd just pick scissors for the hammer and rock for the lynchee, so he'd lose and owe himself a boon and we'd go into night phase. Day ends if the lynchee wins or loses their duel, only continues if the hammer refuses the challenge. Obviously we can't have people dueling themselves to indefinitely escape being lynched though, barring well coordinated agreements for two players to slap a vote on at nearly the same time... so the most obvious solutions is just to ban self-voting, or at least self-hammering during the game, I just want to think it over and make sure that doesn't open up some new can of worms before finalizing it.

Using a very similar mechanism, the mafia could arrange to hammer each other and rig their duels so as to be unlynchable.

I'm sorry I didn't notice these things earlier so I could let you know, Isaac. As I said, I've been extraordinarily busy of late and I didn't look very closely at the dueling rules until it become apparent that I was today's chosen scapegoat.
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Re: Well, OK- we've got 5 more days, let's try to make some headway. - 01/08/2011 01:56:45 PM 1640 Views
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we really are running on nothin' - 01/08/2011 09:23:01 PM 1558 Views
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My thoughts exactly. - 01/08/2011 11:16:43 PM 1651 Views
Re: Seems suboptimal. - 01/08/2011 11:52:55 PM 1686 Views
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Everybody. - 02/08/2011 04:08:53 AM 1665 Views
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Re: Fair enough. I forgot we had a deadline. - 02/08/2011 06:33:46 PM 1547 Views
I got there too late. - 02/08/2011 06:53:10 PM 1584 Views
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no *NM* - 03/08/2011 04:11:23 PM 869 Views
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Interesting thought. - 02/08/2011 06:48:18 PM 1591 Views
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My thoughts are quite similar. - 03/08/2011 03:41:15 AM 1615 Views
Re: My thoughts are quite similar. - 03/08/2011 01:25:59 PM 1648 Views
That's not how initiative worked- rana could have shown up first - 03/08/2011 02:25:24 PM 1658 Views
Re: That's not how initiative worked- rana could have shown up first - 03/08/2011 03:47:17 PM 1675 Views
Re: My thoughts are quite similar. - 03/08/2011 06:08:01 PM 1729 Views
Re: My thoughts are quite similar. - 03/08/2011 06:09:12 PM 1717 Views
Would you mind breaking it down into a simple timeline? - 03/08/2011 04:08:52 AM 1594 Views
Re: Would you mind breaking it down into a simple timeline? - 03/08/2011 01:19:34 PM 1615 Views
Cool, thanks. Unfortunately, I still think anyone could be guilty. - 03/08/2011 02:33:06 PM 1632 Views
One thing - 03/08/2011 08:53:48 PM 1713 Views
Yeah. - 04/08/2011 12:24:59 AM 1690 Views
I think that would give them way too much power. - 04/08/2011 12:37:20 AM 1718 Views
Slip of the tongue? - 03/08/2011 02:42:54 PM 1623 Views
I saw them when I went up to his room - 03/08/2011 08:58:42 PM 1637 Views
Right now, we have about 2.5 days left. - 04/08/2011 01:12:06 PM 1645 Views
Hm. I honestly suspect everyone pretty equally - 04/08/2011 02:10:59 PM 1596 Views
Re: Hm. I honestly suspect everyone pretty equally - 04/08/2011 02:51:00 PM 1832 Views
You left out another obvious possibility. - 06/08/2011 01:52:29 PM 1672 Views
ohhh - 06/08/2011 01:59:02 PM 1587 Views
im holding my vote for now - 04/08/2011 11:41:10 PM 1626 Views
I would but I feel like that woul dbe irrelevant for this lynch anyway so why bother? - 05/08/2011 01:21:29 AM 1555 Views
Hmm - 05/08/2011 10:17:44 PM 1609 Views
Re: Hmm - 05/08/2011 10:30:48 PM 1514 Views
Note on Deadlines and Duelling - 04/08/2011 07:25:19 PM 1700 Views
Vote Record - 04/08/2011 07:32:25 PM 1646 Views
Right, so we're down to the wire- ranagrande or Yuna? *NM* - 05/08/2011 01:45:55 PM 906 Views
Not sure, though I'd err toward rana. - 05/08/2011 02:00:29 PM 1629 Views
Ok, I think its time we try and do something - 05/08/2011 06:43:37 PM 1632 Views
I'm calling for a RC of ranagrande before we pull the trigger. - 05/08/2011 06:58:26 PM 1653 Views
Good idea. Ooh, who want to duel him? - 05/08/2011 07:42:51 PM 1493 Views
I'll vote for him. - 05/08/2011 11:17:37 PM 1699 Views
I suppose I'll roleclaim if one more person votes. - 06/08/2011 01:45:21 PM 1482 Views
Here: Vote: Ranagrande - 06/08/2011 06:09:12 PM 1666 Views
As I said, lynching me would be a mistake. - 06/08/2011 01:41:31 PM 1686 Views
Haha, what? - 06/08/2011 02:14:51 PM 1577 Views
I think he's trying to say he's a notorious busser. *NM* - 06/08/2011 02:54:29 PM 819 Views
what a thing to be proud of *waggles finger at rana* boo hiss boo *NM* - 06/08/2011 05:03:03 PM 902 Views
That doesn't really make sense. - 06/08/2011 10:15:02 PM 1612 Views
Vote: ranagrande - 06/08/2011 08:50:40 PM 1560 Views
I won't stand for this! I challenge you to a duel! *NM* - 06/08/2011 08:51:12 PM 814 Views
Very well. I accept. *NM* - 06/08/2011 08:51:30 PM 899 Views
Huh, I confess I didn't actually think of that - 06/08/2011 08:57:32 PM 1628 Views
... - 06/08/2011 09:03:20 PM 1566 Views
lol you could just make it so a play can't vote for themselves. - 06/08/2011 09:17:08 PM 1666 Views
Not quite. - 06/08/2011 09:21:56 PM 1734 Views
Oh. - 07/08/2011 11:58:29 AM 1627 Views
That's probably what I'll have to do - 06/08/2011 09:33:55 PM 1677 Views
That does still leave a major loophole. - 06/08/2011 09:44:15 PM 1694 Views
That one I've got covered - 06/08/2011 10:14:03 PM 1741 Views
Well, there's one thing I was wondering about. - 06/08/2011 10:12:01 PM 1661 Views
Ha, ha, ha! Genius! *NM* - 06/08/2011 10:08:30 PM 896 Views
clearly Genius has turned to madness *NM* - 06/08/2011 10:13:58 PM 877 Views
Same thing really. Genius is madness to those who can't appreciate it . - 06/08/2011 10:18:26 PM 1579 Views
awh and i was hoping for that meme from 300 to be the reply - 06/08/2011 10:45:12 PM 1661 Views
Sorry, I'm pro-Athenian - 06/08/2011 10:53:30 PM 1614 Views
Roleclaim. - 06/08/2011 09:12:29 PM 1597 Views
Re: Roleclaim. - 07/08/2011 02:34:35 AM 1626 Views
True. Actions speak louder than words, in this case. - 07/08/2011 09:25:26 PM 1676 Views
I will. - 07/08/2011 11:00:42 PM 1668 Views
Should you choose to accept... - 08/08/2011 12:34:18 AM 1643 Views
Okay... - 06/08/2011 10:23:46 PM 1669 Views
Rbirl - 07/08/2011 01:53:35 AM 1605 Views
Lynch Reached - Duel Pending - 08/08/2011 12:26:25 AM 1594 Views
Eh, I'm busy anyway. - 08/08/2011 01:50:30 AM 1784 Views
Oh, bummer. - 08/08/2011 02:27:57 AM 1705 Views
Booooo! - 08/08/2011 03:48:28 AM 1561 Views
No. - 08/08/2011 12:59:21 PM 1678 Views
You really think you looked that innocent? - 08/08/2011 01:18:36 PM 1587 Views
Lynch Pending - 08/08/2011 03:53:47 PM 2138 Views
Twilight - 08/08/2011 11:14:56 PM 1739 Views
Probably be Thursday morning before Day 2 starts - 11/08/2011 12:29:55 AM 1758 Views

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