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That does still leave a major loophole. ranagrande Send a noteboard - 06/08/2011 09:44:15 PM
Nah, he'll tie himself on the hammer vote, so no auto-death, then each participant in the duel gets to select RPS, he'd just pick scissors for the hammer and rock for the lynchee, so he'd lose and owe himself a boon and we'd go into night phase. Day ends if the lynchee wins or loses their duel, only continues if the hammer refuses the challenge. Obviously we can't have people dueling themselves to indefinitely escape being lynched though, barring well coordinated agreements for two players to slap a vote on at nearly the same time... so the most obvious solutions is just to ban self-voting, or at least self-hammering during the game, I just want to think it over and make sure that doesn't open up some new can of worms before finalizing it.

Using a very similar mechanism, the mafia could arrange to hammer each other and rig their duels so as to be unlynchable.

I'm sorry I didn't notice these things earlier so I could let you know, Isaac. As I said, I've been extraordinarily busy of late and I didn't look very closely at the dueling rules until it become apparent that I was today's chosen scapegoat.
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Re: Hm. So, what are our priorities? - 28/07/2011 06:38:26 PM 1734 Views
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*cough* - 30/07/2011 10:02:50 PM 1908 Views
Very confused right now... - 30/07/2011 10:47:31 PM 1767 Views
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This is discussed in the updates, particular #2... the posts with the lightsabers *NM* - 30/07/2011 11:37:41 PM 1035 Views
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I followed Decker. *NM* - 31/07/2011 04:39:29 PM 1007 Views
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I figured out the hotel, so I went for Sheridan. *NM* - 01/08/2011 06:29:52 PM 970 Views
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Random pick *NM* - 02/08/2011 01:04:31 AM 958 Views
Well, OK- we've got 5 more days, let's try to make some headway. - 01/08/2011 01:39:48 PM 1822 Views
Re: Well, OK- we've got 5 more days, let's try to make some headway. - 01/08/2011 01:56:45 PM 1805 Views
It might be me... - 01/08/2011 03:51:50 PM 1858 Views
If you're constantly RBIRL, why would lynching you be a mistake? - 01/08/2011 03:55:42 PM 1785 Views
Re: If you're constantly RBIRL, why would lynching you be a mistake? - 01/08/2011 11:51:39 PM 1793 Views
could be me as well, my posts are still in single figures - 01/08/2011 04:13:58 PM 1879 Views
we really are running on nothin' - 01/08/2011 09:23:01 PM 1736 Views
Seems suboptimal. - 01/08/2011 09:50:38 PM 1840 Views
My thoughts exactly. - 01/08/2011 11:16:43 PM 1835 Views
Re: Seems suboptimal. - 01/08/2011 11:52:55 PM 1871 Views
Me, Yuna, and Rana - 02/08/2011 01:45:02 AM 1824 Views
Everybody. - 02/08/2011 04:08:53 AM 1842 Views
How about this? - 02/08/2011 01:41:57 PM 1811 Views
Fair enough. I forgot we had a deadline. - 02/08/2011 06:28:04 PM 1764 Views
Re: Fair enough. I forgot we had a deadline. - 02/08/2011 06:33:46 PM 1735 Views
I got there too late. - 02/08/2011 06:53:10 PM 1805 Views
someone was in the room with him when i got there - 02/08/2011 10:31:35 PM 1823 Views
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i don't know - 02/08/2011 11:18:37 PM 1768 Views
Could you hear what they were saying? - 02/08/2011 11:46:10 PM 1761 Views
I wouldn't know, but don't think so. - 03/08/2011 01:54:38 AM 1876 Views
no *NM* - 03/08/2011 04:11:23 PM 972 Views
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He seemed busy, mostly. - 02/08/2011 04:11:45 AM 1857 Views
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Another possibility - 02/08/2011 01:47:07 AM 1841 Views
Re: Another possibility - 02/08/2011 01:40:23 PM 1856 Views
True- he DID have a "Ritual Knife," after all - 02/08/2011 01:59:43 PM 1837 Views
Re: True- he DID have a "Ritual Knife," after all - 02/08/2011 02:16:37 PM 1793 Views
Interesting thought. - 02/08/2011 06:48:18 PM 1776 Views
I'm under the impression someone is lying out of Sheridan's group. - 03/08/2011 02:18:45 AM 1765 Views
My thoughts are quite similar. - 03/08/2011 03:41:15 AM 1804 Views
Re: My thoughts are quite similar. - 03/08/2011 01:25:59 PM 1825 Views
That's not how initiative worked- rana could have shown up first - 03/08/2011 02:25:24 PM 1842 Views
Re: That's not how initiative worked- rana could have shown up first - 03/08/2011 03:47:17 PM 1862 Views
Re: My thoughts are quite similar. - 03/08/2011 06:08:01 PM 1903 Views
Re: My thoughts are quite similar. - 03/08/2011 06:09:12 PM 1888 Views
Would you mind breaking it down into a simple timeline? - 03/08/2011 04:08:52 AM 1778 Views
Re: Would you mind breaking it down into a simple timeline? - 03/08/2011 01:19:34 PM 1822 Views
Cool, thanks. Unfortunately, I still think anyone could be guilty. - 03/08/2011 02:33:06 PM 1828 Views
One thing - 03/08/2011 08:53:48 PM 1900 Views
Yeah. - 04/08/2011 12:24:59 AM 1882 Views
I think that would give them way too much power. - 04/08/2011 12:37:20 AM 1897 Views
Slip of the tongue? - 03/08/2011 02:42:54 PM 1819 Views
I saw them when I went up to his room - 03/08/2011 08:58:42 PM 1815 Views
Right now, we have about 2.5 days left. - 04/08/2011 01:12:06 PM 1816 Views
Hm. I honestly suspect everyone pretty equally - 04/08/2011 02:10:59 PM 1787 Views
Re: Hm. I honestly suspect everyone pretty equally - 04/08/2011 02:51:00 PM 2018 Views
You left out another obvious possibility. - 06/08/2011 01:52:29 PM 1829 Views
ohhh - 06/08/2011 01:59:02 PM 1787 Views
im holding my vote for now - 04/08/2011 11:41:10 PM 1814 Views
I would but I feel like that woul dbe irrelevant for this lynch anyway so why bother? - 05/08/2011 01:21:29 AM 1750 Views
Hmm - 05/08/2011 10:17:44 PM 1804 Views
Re: Hmm - 05/08/2011 10:30:48 PM 1697 Views
Note on Deadlines and Duelling - 04/08/2011 07:25:19 PM 1891 Views
Vote Record - 04/08/2011 07:32:25 PM 1832 Views
Right, so we're down to the wire- ranagrande or Yuna? *NM* - 05/08/2011 01:45:55 PM 1009 Views
Not sure, though I'd err toward rana. - 05/08/2011 02:00:29 PM 1828 Views
Ok, I think its time we try and do something - 05/08/2011 06:43:37 PM 1814 Views
I'm calling for a RC of ranagrande before we pull the trigger. - 05/08/2011 06:58:26 PM 1839 Views
Good idea. Ooh, who want to duel him? - 05/08/2011 07:42:51 PM 1676 Views
I'll vote for him. - 05/08/2011 11:17:37 PM 1916 Views
I suppose I'll roleclaim if one more person votes. - 06/08/2011 01:45:21 PM 1657 Views
Here: Vote: Ranagrande - 06/08/2011 06:09:12 PM 1867 Views
As I said, lynching me would be a mistake. - 06/08/2011 01:41:31 PM 1882 Views
Haha, what? - 06/08/2011 02:14:51 PM 1754 Views
I think he's trying to say he's a notorious busser. *NM* - 06/08/2011 02:54:29 PM 927 Views
what a thing to be proud of *waggles finger at rana* boo hiss boo *NM* - 06/08/2011 05:03:03 PM 1004 Views
That doesn't really make sense. - 06/08/2011 10:15:02 PM 1806 Views
Vote: ranagrande - 06/08/2011 08:50:40 PM 1756 Views
I won't stand for this! I challenge you to a duel! *NM* - 06/08/2011 08:51:12 PM 910 Views
Very well. I accept. *NM* - 06/08/2011 08:51:30 PM 1001 Views
Huh, I confess I didn't actually think of that - 06/08/2011 08:57:32 PM 1830 Views
... - 06/08/2011 09:03:20 PM 1760 Views
lol you could just make it so a play can't vote for themselves. - 06/08/2011 09:17:08 PM 1833 Views
Not quite. - 06/08/2011 09:21:56 PM 1928 Views
Oh. - 07/08/2011 11:58:29 AM 1805 Views
That's probably what I'll have to do - 06/08/2011 09:33:55 PM 1854 Views
That does still leave a major loophole. - 06/08/2011 09:44:15 PM 1889 Views
That one I've got covered - 06/08/2011 10:14:03 PM 1924 Views
Well, there's one thing I was wondering about. - 06/08/2011 10:12:01 PM 1829 Views
Ha, ha, ha! Genius! *NM* - 06/08/2011 10:08:30 PM 1001 Views
clearly Genius has turned to madness *NM* - 06/08/2011 10:13:58 PM 987 Views
Same thing really. Genius is madness to those who can't appreciate it . - 06/08/2011 10:18:26 PM 1755 Views
awh and i was hoping for that meme from 300 to be the reply - 06/08/2011 10:45:12 PM 1832 Views
Sorry, I'm pro-Athenian - 06/08/2011 10:53:30 PM 1809 Views
Roleclaim. - 06/08/2011 09:12:29 PM 1785 Views
Re: Roleclaim. - 07/08/2011 02:34:35 AM 1811 Views
True. Actions speak louder than words, in this case. - 07/08/2011 09:25:26 PM 1864 Views
I will. - 07/08/2011 11:00:42 PM 1835 Views
Should you choose to accept... - 08/08/2011 12:34:18 AM 1812 Views
Okay... - 06/08/2011 10:23:46 PM 1863 Views
Rbirl - 07/08/2011 01:53:35 AM 1780 Views
Lynch Reached - Duel Pending - 08/08/2011 12:26:25 AM 1774 Views
Eh, I'm busy anyway. - 08/08/2011 01:50:30 AM 1958 Views
Oh, bummer. - 08/08/2011 02:27:57 AM 1868 Views
Booooo! - 08/08/2011 03:48:28 AM 1742 Views
No. - 08/08/2011 12:59:21 PM 1849 Views
You really think you looked that innocent? - 08/08/2011 01:18:36 PM 1779 Views
Lynch Pending - 08/08/2011 03:53:47 PM 2332 Views
Twilight - 08/08/2011 11:14:56 PM 1942 Views
Probably be Thursday morning before Day 2 starts - 11/08/2011 12:29:55 AM 1918 Views

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