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Re: So... Stephen, Gher, Hobo or beetnemesis? ranagrande Send a noteboard - 13/06/2011 09:49:06 PM
I'd be willing to vote for anyone but Darth_Katie (pretty much a confirmed doctor), Fanatic-Templar (declared innocent by a confirmed cop), and myself (because I'm not suicidal :P).

Hobo seems to be the doublevoter. Now, that doesn't necessarily mean he's a townie- Kronin could easily have decided to be a bit clever, and given the doublevote ability to the scum. Especially since his flavor is "Guy who presided over the decline of Athens."

This pretty much sums up my current thoughts on Hobo.

Gher is very likely a mason, and is giving off pro-town vibes to me.

I haven't seen anything yet from Gher that I think is especially pro-town. I also haven't seen anything particularly scummy from him. Gher is definitely a mason, but we've had plenty of scum-townie mason pairs in the past. Also, in his "defense" of ?, Gher acted exactly the way I would have if I were an evil mason.

Ignoring flavor, I'd say either Stephen or ranagrande. Counting flavor, it does seem odd that Socrates and Zeno would both be scum, while Plato was not.

As I said yesterday, if only one of the philosophers is guilty, I would expect it to be Socrates.

Now I shall replace myself in your list of suspects and discuss you instead. Your roleclaim still scares me. It really is the perfect fake claim for a scummer, and yet I still don't want to call you on it in case it's true.

I did find your interaction with Isaac yesterday to be interesting. One of the tactics he and I have discussed before when we were scum together was for one of us to accuse the other and then allow ourselves to be talked out of it, thus creating more separation between us.

I dunno. The good news is that we have 7 people, and probably two are scum. (Actually, now that I look at the numbers, a 3-person scum team with a doublevoter and a roleblocker would be a really interesting combo in an original group of 13). So... hm. We're not at Ly-Lo, but we're damn close.

(As an aside, I have to keep remembering not to refer to anyone as "almost definitely townie," since that seems to basically be a Night Kill guarantee. As it is, I feel guilty that we're not even considering F-T, but I guess once you're cleared by the cop it's silly to go on pretending he's a suspect.)

Yunalesca was a miller, and I think it's exceedingly unlikely that we would have more than one.
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Mafia 22: Little Bit of Each. Kronin al'Sulc - 10/06/2011 09:20:45 PM 1413 Views
Avenge uuuuussssssssss!!! *NM* Fox and Ravens - 10/06/2011 10:23:17 PM 486 Views
What, both of you? beetnemesis - 10/06/2011 10:38:38 PM 832 Views
Lol. Oh yeah. Fox and Ravens - 10/06/2011 10:59:06 PM 813 Views
That is a cheerfully bipartisan comment Isaac - 10/06/2011 11:25:16 PM 867 Views
Re: That is a cheerfully bipartisan comment Fox and Ravens - 11/06/2011 02:23:05 AM 1016 Views
being dead sucks *NM* Yunalesca - 11/06/2011 03:07:33 PM 544 Views
HA! beetnemesis - 10/06/2011 10:38:11 PM 931 Views
Oh good. Fanatic-Templar - 11/06/2011 12:08:29 AM 852 Views
Hmm. Meant to reply to the original post. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 11/06/2011 12:09:27 AM 491 Views
I'm not objecting, just wondering what the hey you're talking about beetnemesis - 11/06/2011 03:17:48 AM 1010 Views
I think Isaac was suspiciously unwilling to lynch Stephen. Fanatic-Templar - 11/06/2011 04:53:43 AM 980 Views
Well, the good news is that we seem to be narrowing it down quickly beetnemesis - 11/06/2011 05:03:32 AM 881 Views
I pretty much agree. Darth_Katie - 11/06/2011 06:11:07 AM 865 Views
I was surprised. ranagrande - 13/06/2011 09:59:14 PM 932 Views
Hah. beetnemesis - 13/06/2011 10:40:26 PM 750 Views
Isn't that always the case? *NM* Darth_Katie - 13/06/2011 11:10:43 PM 501 Views
Plausible. Fanatic-Templar - 14/06/2011 06:15:47 AM 906 Views
How did I through ? under the bus? (and using punctuation after the word "bus" doesn't count) Gher - 11/06/2011 04:19:43 AM 1005 Views
Maybe not "threw," but it could have been a nudge beetnemesis - 11/06/2011 04:46:30 AM 1005 Views
Which would have been near suicide for a scummer to do. Hobo - 11/06/2011 07:15:24 AM 845 Views
I think that's what he's suggesting Darth_Katie - 11/06/2011 02:55:18 PM 833 Views
That's exactly what I was suggesting. But again, it seems a bit unlikely beetnemesis - 11/06/2011 03:28:56 PM 879 Views
It's possible Gher - 11/06/2011 06:44:48 PM 998 Views
Re: HA! Hobo - 11/06/2011 07:20:05 AM 1020 Views
Oh, I know a few other people suspected him. beetnemesis - 11/06/2011 03:31:17 PM 845 Views
Isaac and Ranagrande both stood out after Yesterday's lynch Gher - 11/06/2011 04:04:51 AM 882 Views
I'm not a doublevoter, to my knowledge. Fanatic-Templar - 11/06/2011 04:32:43 AM 775 Views
Which you obviously do recall since that's what you linked to 8-. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 11/06/2011 04:33:37 AM 602 Views
Excellent way to keep things murky. Publicly ask the Mod why the vote count is off... Gher - 11/06/2011 06:31:14 PM 953 Views
Are you suggesting that I'm a scum doublevoter? Fanatic-Templar - 11/06/2011 07:57:35 PM 887 Views
No, I'm not. Gher - 13/06/2011 06:20:48 PM 902 Views
Yeah, I noticed that too. Darth_Katie - 11/06/2011 06:14:14 AM 817 Views
It's me. Hobo - 11/06/2011 07:12:05 AM 888 Views
Except that you didn't have a vote on Darth_Katie. Fanatic-Templar - 11/06/2011 05:40:55 PM 821 Views
Mod wouldn't want to admit he made a mistake? Hobo - 11/06/2011 10:35:07 PM 995 Views
EBWOP Hobo - 11/06/2011 10:39:09 PM 917 Views
There's nothing to my knowledge. *NM* Darth_Katie - 12/06/2011 09:31:32 AM 582 Views
I probably made a mistake. Kronin al'Sulc - 12/06/2011 06:34:29 PM 920 Views
Alright. Gher - 13/06/2011 06:22:52 PM 988 Views
Yeah, I got RB'd last Night Darth_Katie - 11/06/2011 06:30:22 AM 936 Views
So, time to check in again Stephen - 12/06/2011 05:58:41 PM 942 Views
Do you have any comments on our current thoughts? Darth_Katie - 14/06/2011 12:11:10 PM 906 Views
Yeah Stephen - 14/06/2011 01:53:53 PM 925 Views
Bulletproof's another scum favourite claim. Fanatic-Templar - 14/06/2011 06:44:29 PM 900 Views
Bulletproof, really? Gher - 14/06/2011 08:46:00 PM 1059 Views
Myrole message explicitly states that I can't be NK'ed *NM* Stephen - 14/06/2011 09:32:19 PM 617 Views
Hmm. Darth_Katie - 14/06/2011 09:43:40 PM 914 Views
Pretty much the whole scarcity of his role Stephen - 14/06/2011 10:24:44 PM 929 Views
Semi-BP thing? One-shot BP is not that unusual. *NM* Gher - 14/06/2011 11:12:57 PM 603 Views
Errr... you can talk you way out of a NK? That seems odd beetnemesis - 15/06/2011 01:11:03 AM 814 Views
Yes, I can. Stephen - 15/06/2011 01:44:06 PM 845 Views
If I may quote Shakespeare: beetnemesis - 16/06/2011 03:23:22 PM 939 Views
It's not an OMGUS when you're obviously scum Stephen - 16/06/2011 05:01:24 PM 884 Views
So... Stephen, Gher, Hobo or ranagrande? beetnemesis - 12/06/2011 08:01:21 PM 860 Views
Re: So... Stephen, Gher, Hobo or beetnemesis? ranagrande - 13/06/2011 09:49:06 PM 964 Views
That does sound like a pretty cool scum plan beetnemesis - 13/06/2011 10:47:17 PM 839 Views
RBIRL Hobo - 15/06/2011 08:37:41 PM 897 Views
Wake me if you people ever get around to lynching Stephen. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 16/06/2011 06:49:58 PM 518 Views
Vote: Stephen *NM* Darth_Katie - 16/06/2011 08:25:19 PM 504 Views
Wake up ranagrande - 16/06/2011 09:08:25 PM 781 Views
Stephen has been Lynched. Kronin al'Sulc - 16/06/2011 09:48:32 PM 852 Views
Twilight Kronin al'Sulc - 17/06/2011 05:08:04 AM 851 Views
I'll admit I'm surprised, did not expect his roleclaim to be true. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 17/06/2011 05:24:35 AM 522 Views
Sorry? *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 17/06/2011 07:40:33 AM 472 Views
You should be. Fanatic-Templar - 17/06/2011 08:07:50 AM 822 Views
Upcoming Game, a Survey, and some general bookkeeping Isaac - 17/06/2011 04:44:29 PM 920 Views
Themes Isaac - 17/06/2011 04:45:02 PM 889 Views
I vote for Dresden Files *NM* beetnemesis - 17/06/2011 05:24:53 PM 567 Views
I vote for the grim darkness of Warhammer 40,000. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 17/06/2011 06:11:49 PM 468 Views
Untouchables. *NM* Fox and Ravens - 17/06/2011 06:16:42 PM 489 Views
Blade Runner *NM* Stephen - 17/06/2011 06:27:02 PM 499 Views
I think Warhammer 40k would be cool... *NM* ? - 17/06/2011 10:25:58 PM 488 Views
Untouchables or Blade Runner *NM* Darth_Katie - 22/06/2011 05:14:05 AM 501 Views
Survey Isaac - 17/06/2011 04:46:06 PM 937 Views
Re: Survey beetnemesis - 17/06/2011 05:24:28 PM 907 Views
Re: Survey Fanatic-Templar - 17/06/2011 06:18:42 PM 915 Views
Re: Survey Stephen - 17/06/2011 06:34:01 PM 971 Views
Re: Survey ranagrande - 19/06/2011 04:49:59 PM 988 Views
Re: Survey Fox and Ravens - 19/06/2011 06:40:42 PM 893 Views
I like variety. Darth_Katie - 22/06/2011 05:13:09 AM 848 Views
Heeeeellllloooooo ? - 17/06/2011 10:22:49 PM 900 Views
beetnemesis has been killed beetnemesis - 22/06/2011 12:55:03 AM 795 Views
Wanna know a secret? Kronin al'Sulc - 22/06/2011 04:01:39 AM 862 Views
Haha, no worries beetnemesis - 22/06/2011 04:51:42 AM 841 Views
As long as you don't start sending out death threats in the middle of the night. *NM* Darth_Katie - 22/06/2011 05:17:53 AM 479 Views
No one else has voted for Dresden Files; I'm almost beyond threats! beetnemesis - 22/06/2011 05:44:42 AM 819 Views
I'm actually not familiar with any of Isaac's suggestions, embarassingly . Fanatic-Templar - 22/06/2011 06:12:22 AM 821 Views
Me either Fox and Ravens - 22/06/2011 01:14:20 PM 826 Views
Me as well. Darth_Katie - 22/06/2011 11:04:57 PM 818 Views
Well, I can shed a bit of light on them and why I selected them Isaac - 22/06/2011 11:56:05 PM 907 Views
Perhaps ranked voting this time? *NM* Stephen - 23/06/2011 12:26:47 AM 515 Views
That's probably the best way Isaac - 23/06/2011 01:59:43 AM 1163 Views
Votes for the Vote God! beetnemesis - 23/06/2011 02:14:49 AM 800 Views
My girlfriend will inevitably make me watch Dresden Files in the near future, Fanatic-Templar - 23/06/2011 04:38:08 AM 761 Views
I feel like a Star Wars fanatic hearing that someone's first experience will be with Episode 1. beetnemesis - 23/06/2011 06:07:23 AM 800 Views
Don't even joke about that kind of thing *NM* Scott Blademaster - 23/06/2011 06:36:15 AM 569 Views
It is definitely a 'watch it before you read it' series Isaac - 23/06/2011 07:21:41 AM 840 Views
Probably the same way I feel about the LotR movies. Fanatic-Templar - 23/06/2011 11:45:46 PM 840 Views
Re: That's probably the best way Stephen - 23/06/2011 12:00:31 PM 775 Views
Re: That's probably the best way Darth_Katie - 23/06/2011 02:01:25 PM 876 Views
I'll abstain from voting. ranagrande - 23/06/2011 02:11:42 PM 1024 Views
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