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Re: So... Stephen, Gher, Hobo or beetnemesis? ranagrande Send a noteboard - 13/06/2011 09:49:06 PM
I'd be willing to vote for anyone but Darth_Katie (pretty much a confirmed doctor), Fanatic-Templar (declared innocent by a confirmed cop), and myself (because I'm not suicidal :P).

Hobo seems to be the doublevoter. Now, that doesn't necessarily mean he's a townie- Kronin could easily have decided to be a bit clever, and given the doublevote ability to the scum. Especially since his flavor is "Guy who presided over the decline of Athens."

This pretty much sums up my current thoughts on Hobo.

Gher is very likely a mason, and is giving off pro-town vibes to me.

I haven't seen anything yet from Gher that I think is especially pro-town. I also haven't seen anything particularly scummy from him. Gher is definitely a mason, but we've had plenty of scum-townie mason pairs in the past. Also, in his "defense" of ?, Gher acted exactly the way I would have if I were an evil mason.

Ignoring flavor, I'd say either Stephen or ranagrande. Counting flavor, it does seem odd that Socrates and Zeno would both be scum, while Plato was not.

As I said yesterday, if only one of the philosophers is guilty, I would expect it to be Socrates.

Now I shall replace myself in your list of suspects and discuss you instead. Your roleclaim still scares me. It really is the perfect fake claim for a scummer, and yet I still don't want to call you on it in case it's true.

I did find your interaction with Isaac yesterday to be interesting. One of the tactics he and I have discussed before when we were scum together was for one of us to accuse the other and then allow ourselves to be talked out of it, thus creating more separation between us.

I dunno. The good news is that we have 7 people, and probably two are scum. (Actually, now that I look at the numbers, a 3-person scum team with a doublevoter and a roleblocker would be a really interesting combo in an original group of 13). So... hm. We're not at Ly-Lo, but we're damn close.

(As an aside, I have to keep remembering not to refer to anyone as "almost definitely townie," since that seems to basically be a Night Kill guarantee. As it is, I feel guilty that we're not even considering F-T, but I guess once you're cleared by the cop it's silly to go on pretending he's a suspect.)

Yunalesca was a miller, and I think it's exceedingly unlikely that we would have more than one.
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Mafia 22: Little Bit of Each. Kronin al'Sulc - 10/06/2011 09:20:45 PM 1405 Views
Avenge uuuuussssssssss!!! *NM* Fox and Ravens - 10/06/2011 10:23:17 PM 483 Views
What, both of you? beetnemesis - 10/06/2011 10:38:38 PM 824 Views
Lol. Oh yeah. Fox and Ravens - 10/06/2011 10:59:06 PM 805 Views
That is a cheerfully bipartisan comment Isaac - 10/06/2011 11:25:16 PM 860 Views
Re: That is a cheerfully bipartisan comment Fox and Ravens - 11/06/2011 02:23:05 AM 1008 Views
being dead sucks *NM* Yunalesca - 11/06/2011 03:07:33 PM 541 Views
HA! beetnemesis - 10/06/2011 10:38:11 PM 922 Views
Oh good. Fanatic-Templar - 11/06/2011 12:08:29 AM 844 Views
Hmm. Meant to reply to the original post. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 11/06/2011 12:09:27 AM 488 Views
I'm not objecting, just wondering what the hey you're talking about beetnemesis - 11/06/2011 03:17:48 AM 1002 Views
I think Isaac was suspiciously unwilling to lynch Stephen. Fanatic-Templar - 11/06/2011 04:53:43 AM 973 Views
Well, the good news is that we seem to be narrowing it down quickly beetnemesis - 11/06/2011 05:03:32 AM 872 Views
I pretty much agree. Darth_Katie - 11/06/2011 06:11:07 AM 859 Views
I was surprised. ranagrande - 13/06/2011 09:59:14 PM 924 Views
Hah. beetnemesis - 13/06/2011 10:40:26 PM 744 Views
Isn't that always the case? *NM* Darth_Katie - 13/06/2011 11:10:43 PM 498 Views
Plausible. Fanatic-Templar - 14/06/2011 06:15:47 AM 899 Views
How did I through ? under the bus? (and using punctuation after the word "bus" doesn't count) Gher - 11/06/2011 04:19:43 AM 999 Views
Maybe not "threw," but it could have been a nudge beetnemesis - 11/06/2011 04:46:30 AM 998 Views
Which would have been near suicide for a scummer to do. Hobo - 11/06/2011 07:15:24 AM 838 Views
I think that's what he's suggesting Darth_Katie - 11/06/2011 02:55:18 PM 825 Views
That's exactly what I was suggesting. But again, it seems a bit unlikely beetnemesis - 11/06/2011 03:28:56 PM 870 Views
It's possible Gher - 11/06/2011 06:44:48 PM 991 Views
Re: HA! Hobo - 11/06/2011 07:20:05 AM 1012 Views
Oh, I know a few other people suspected him. beetnemesis - 11/06/2011 03:31:17 PM 837 Views
Isaac and Ranagrande both stood out after Yesterday's lynch Gher - 11/06/2011 04:04:51 AM 876 Views
I'm not a doublevoter, to my knowledge. Fanatic-Templar - 11/06/2011 04:32:43 AM 769 Views
Which you obviously do recall since that's what you linked to 8-. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 11/06/2011 04:33:37 AM 600 Views
Excellent way to keep things murky. Publicly ask the Mod why the vote count is off... Gher - 11/06/2011 06:31:14 PM 943 Views
Are you suggesting that I'm a scum doublevoter? Fanatic-Templar - 11/06/2011 07:57:35 PM 879 Views
No, I'm not. Gher - 13/06/2011 06:20:48 PM 894 Views
Yeah, I noticed that too. Darth_Katie - 11/06/2011 06:14:14 AM 809 Views
It's me. Hobo - 11/06/2011 07:12:05 AM 882 Views
Except that you didn't have a vote on Darth_Katie. Fanatic-Templar - 11/06/2011 05:40:55 PM 813 Views
Mod wouldn't want to admit he made a mistake? Hobo - 11/06/2011 10:35:07 PM 987 Views
EBWOP Hobo - 11/06/2011 10:39:09 PM 910 Views
There's nothing to my knowledge. *NM* Darth_Katie - 12/06/2011 09:31:32 AM 579 Views
I probably made a mistake. Kronin al'Sulc - 12/06/2011 06:34:29 PM 912 Views
Alright. Gher - 13/06/2011 06:22:52 PM 982 Views
Yeah, I got RB'd last Night Darth_Katie - 11/06/2011 06:30:22 AM 927 Views
So, time to check in again Stephen - 12/06/2011 05:58:41 PM 933 Views
Do you have any comments on our current thoughts? Darth_Katie - 14/06/2011 12:11:10 PM 898 Views
Yeah Stephen - 14/06/2011 01:53:53 PM 918 Views
Bulletproof's another scum favourite claim. Fanatic-Templar - 14/06/2011 06:44:29 PM 892 Views
Bulletproof, really? Gher - 14/06/2011 08:46:00 PM 1049 Views
Myrole message explicitly states that I can't be NK'ed *NM* Stephen - 14/06/2011 09:32:19 PM 614 Views
Hmm. Darth_Katie - 14/06/2011 09:43:40 PM 905 Views
Pretty much the whole scarcity of his role Stephen - 14/06/2011 10:24:44 PM 921 Views
Semi-BP thing? One-shot BP is not that unusual. *NM* Gher - 14/06/2011 11:12:57 PM 598 Views
Errr... you can talk you way out of a NK? That seems odd beetnemesis - 15/06/2011 01:11:03 AM 806 Views
Yes, I can. Stephen - 15/06/2011 01:44:06 PM 837 Views
If I may quote Shakespeare: beetnemesis - 16/06/2011 03:23:22 PM 933 Views
It's not an OMGUS when you're obviously scum Stephen - 16/06/2011 05:01:24 PM 873 Views
So... Stephen, Gher, Hobo or ranagrande? beetnemesis - 12/06/2011 08:01:21 PM 853 Views
Re: So... Stephen, Gher, Hobo or beetnemesis? ranagrande - 13/06/2011 09:49:06 PM 957 Views
That does sound like a pretty cool scum plan beetnemesis - 13/06/2011 10:47:17 PM 832 Views
RBIRL Hobo - 15/06/2011 08:37:41 PM 886 Views
Wake me if you people ever get around to lynching Stephen. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 16/06/2011 06:49:58 PM 515 Views
Vote: Stephen *NM* Darth_Katie - 16/06/2011 08:25:19 PM 499 Views
Wake up ranagrande - 16/06/2011 09:08:25 PM 773 Views
Stephen has been Lynched. Kronin al'Sulc - 16/06/2011 09:48:32 PM 845 Views
Twilight Kronin al'Sulc - 17/06/2011 05:08:04 AM 843 Views
I'll admit I'm surprised, did not expect his roleclaim to be true. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 17/06/2011 05:24:35 AM 519 Views
Sorry? *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 17/06/2011 07:40:33 AM 467 Views
You should be. Fanatic-Templar - 17/06/2011 08:07:50 AM 814 Views
Upcoming Game, a Survey, and some general bookkeeping Isaac - 17/06/2011 04:44:29 PM 904 Views
Themes Isaac - 17/06/2011 04:45:02 PM 883 Views
I vote for Dresden Files *NM* beetnemesis - 17/06/2011 05:24:53 PM 563 Views
I vote for the grim darkness of Warhammer 40,000. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 17/06/2011 06:11:49 PM 465 Views
Untouchables. *NM* Fox and Ravens - 17/06/2011 06:16:42 PM 487 Views
Blade Runner *NM* Stephen - 17/06/2011 06:27:02 PM 494 Views
I think Warhammer 40k would be cool... *NM* ? - 17/06/2011 10:25:58 PM 483 Views
Untouchables or Blade Runner *NM* Darth_Katie - 22/06/2011 05:14:05 AM 499 Views
Survey Isaac - 17/06/2011 04:46:06 PM 928 Views
Re: Survey beetnemesis - 17/06/2011 05:24:28 PM 899 Views
Re: Survey Fanatic-Templar - 17/06/2011 06:18:42 PM 908 Views
Re: Survey Stephen - 17/06/2011 06:34:01 PM 962 Views
Re: Survey ranagrande - 19/06/2011 04:49:59 PM 982 Views
Re: Survey Fox and Ravens - 19/06/2011 06:40:42 PM 886 Views
I like variety. Darth_Katie - 22/06/2011 05:13:09 AM 841 Views
Heeeeellllloooooo ? - 17/06/2011 10:22:49 PM 885 Views
beetnemesis has been killed beetnemesis - 22/06/2011 12:55:03 AM 788 Views
Wanna know a secret? Kronin al'Sulc - 22/06/2011 04:01:39 AM 856 Views
Haha, no worries beetnemesis - 22/06/2011 04:51:42 AM 834 Views
As long as you don't start sending out death threats in the middle of the night. *NM* Darth_Katie - 22/06/2011 05:17:53 AM 476 Views
No one else has voted for Dresden Files; I'm almost beyond threats! beetnemesis - 22/06/2011 05:44:42 AM 811 Views
I'm actually not familiar with any of Isaac's suggestions, embarassingly . Fanatic-Templar - 22/06/2011 06:12:22 AM 814 Views
Me either Fox and Ravens - 22/06/2011 01:14:20 PM 819 Views
Me as well. Darth_Katie - 22/06/2011 11:04:57 PM 808 Views
Well, I can shed a bit of light on them and why I selected them Isaac - 22/06/2011 11:56:05 PM 899 Views
Perhaps ranked voting this time? *NM* Stephen - 23/06/2011 12:26:47 AM 513 Views
That's probably the best way Isaac - 23/06/2011 01:59:43 AM 1150 Views
Votes for the Vote God! beetnemesis - 23/06/2011 02:14:49 AM 791 Views
My girlfriend will inevitably make me watch Dresden Files in the near future, Fanatic-Templar - 23/06/2011 04:38:08 AM 753 Views
I feel like a Star Wars fanatic hearing that someone's first experience will be with Episode 1. beetnemesis - 23/06/2011 06:07:23 AM 792 Views
Don't even joke about that kind of thing *NM* Scott Blademaster - 23/06/2011 06:36:15 AM 561 Views
It is definitely a 'watch it before you read it' series Isaac - 23/06/2011 07:21:41 AM 833 Views
Probably the same way I feel about the LotR movies. Fanatic-Templar - 23/06/2011 11:45:46 PM 832 Views
Re: That's probably the best way Stephen - 23/06/2011 12:00:31 PM 767 Views
Re: That's probably the best way Darth_Katie - 23/06/2011 02:01:25 PM 867 Views
I'll abstain from voting. ranagrande - 23/06/2011 02:11:42 PM 1017 Views
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