I think Isaac was suspiciously unwilling to lynch Stephen.
Fanatic-Templar Send a noteboard - 11/06/2011 04:53:43 AM
I have no particular problem with the fact that he kept his vote on Darth_Katie longer than others, rather my suspicions began with Scott Blademaster. The reasoning behind that lynch attempt was pretty weak, it mostly followed the "in the absence of someone likely to be scum, we should lynch whoever's death will least harm the town". Since that's not much of an accusation, it was also accompanied by statements indicating urgency, like we need the game to move on, win or lose it has now been approximately 70 days since the last game ended and this is day 2, that is too long. That's not an unsustainable position, it isn't like we had some obvious scummer running around and it still being Day 2, the town still has the feeling of having some leeway.
What does become problematic is that after Scott's death from modkill, he was utterly unwilling to consider lynching Stephen, even though some of the arguments he used against Scott also applied to Stephen - Stephen not being a frequent poster, the Day being overdrawn already - this quite apart from my own reasons for suspecting him, that his conviction of disbelieving in the gods of the state make him a dead ringer for our version of the scum. I am typically mistrustful of lore based accusations, otherwise I would have pressed his lynch more strongly, but it seems to me he was at least as strong a lynch candidate as Scott, yet Isaac was completely unwilling to consider him for our lynch.
Instead he voted for beetnemesis as an OMGUS, and pressed for ?'s lynch afterward, even before ? was caught lying.
This was what made me suspect Isaac originally, as you can read from my post yesterDay. That this suspicion has been revealed accurate doubles my suspicions of Stephen. Now granted, Isaac may have been trying to drag down a townie with him in case he died, but I see no reason for him to expect to die soon, and he seems quite genuine in his desire to pretend he was not giving Stephen any particular credit, so I would be quite willing to risk it.
What does become problematic is that after Scott's death from modkill, he was utterly unwilling to consider lynching Stephen, even though some of the arguments he used against Scott also applied to Stephen - Stephen not being a frequent poster, the Day being overdrawn already - this quite apart from my own reasons for suspecting him, that his conviction of disbelieving in the gods of the state make him a dead ringer for our version of the scum. I am typically mistrustful of lore based accusations, otherwise I would have pressed his lynch more strongly, but it seems to me he was at least as strong a lynch candidate as Scott, yet Isaac was completely unwilling to consider him for our lynch.
Instead he voted for beetnemesis as an OMGUS, and pressed for ?'s lynch afterward, even before ? was caught lying.
This was what made me suspect Isaac originally, as you can read from my post yesterDay. That this suspicion has been revealed accurate doubles my suspicions of Stephen. Now granted, Isaac may have been trying to drag down a townie with him in case he died, but I see no reason for him to expect to die soon, and he seems quite genuine in his desire to pretend he was not giving Stephen any particular credit, so I would be quite willing to risk it.
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Mafia 22: Little Bit of Each.
10/06/2011 09:20:45 PM
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Avenge uuuuussssssssss!!! *NM*
10/06/2011 10:23:17 PM
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HA!
10/06/2011 10:38:11 PM
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Oh good.
11/06/2011 12:08:29 AM
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I'm not objecting, just wondering what the hey you're talking about
11/06/2011 03:17:48 AM
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I think Isaac was suspiciously unwilling to lynch Stephen.
11/06/2011 04:53:43 AM
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Well, the good news is that we seem to be narrowing it down quickly
11/06/2011 05:03:32 AM
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How did I through ? under the bus? (and using punctuation after the word "bus" doesn't count)
11/06/2011 04:19:43 AM
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Maybe not "threw," but it could have been a nudge
11/06/2011 04:46:30 AM
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Which would have been near suicide for a scummer to do.
11/06/2011 07:15:24 AM
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I think that's what he's suggesting
11/06/2011 02:55:18 PM
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That's exactly what I was suggesting. But again, it seems a bit unlikely
11/06/2011 03:28:56 PM
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Isaac and Ranagrande both stood out after Yesterday's lynch
11/06/2011 04:04:51 AM
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I'm not a doublevoter, to my knowledge.
11/06/2011 04:32:43 AM
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Which you obviously do recall since that's what you linked to 8-. *NM*
11/06/2011 04:33:37 AM
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Excellent way to keep things murky. Publicly ask the Mod why the vote count is off...
11/06/2011 06:31:14 PM
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It's me.
11/06/2011 07:12:05 AM
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Except that you didn't have a vote on Darth_Katie.
11/06/2011 05:40:55 PM
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Mod wouldn't want to admit he made a mistake?
11/06/2011 10:35:07 PM
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So, time to check in again
12/06/2011 05:58:41 PM
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Do you have any comments on our current thoughts?
14/06/2011 12:11:10 PM
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Yeah
14/06/2011 01:53:53 PM
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Bulletproof, really?
14/06/2011 08:46:00 PM
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Myrole message explicitly states that I can't be NK'ed *NM*
14/06/2011 09:32:19 PM
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Hmm.
14/06/2011 09:43:40 PM
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Errr... you can talk you way out of a NK? That seems odd
15/06/2011 01:11:03 AM
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Yes, I can.
15/06/2011 01:44:06 PM
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So... Stephen, Gher, Hobo or ranagrande?
12/06/2011 08:01:21 PM
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Twilight
17/06/2011 05:08:04 AM
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I'll admit I'm surprised, did not expect his roleclaim to be true. *NM*
17/06/2011 05:24:35 AM
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Upcoming Game, a Survey, and some general bookkeeping
17/06/2011 04:44:29 PM
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beetnemesis has been killed
22/06/2011 12:55:03 AM
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Wanna know a secret?
22/06/2011 04:01:39 AM
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Haha, no worries
22/06/2011 04:51:42 AM
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As long as you don't start sending out death threats in the middle of the night.
*NM*
22/06/2011 05:17:53 AM
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No one else has voted for Dresden Files; I'm almost beyond threats!
22/06/2011 05:44:42 AM
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I'm actually not familiar with any of Isaac's suggestions, embarassingly
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22/06/2011 06:12:22 AM
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Me either
22/06/2011 01:14:20 PM
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Me as well.
22/06/2011 11:04:57 PM
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Well, I can shed a bit of light on them and why I selected them
22/06/2011 11:56:05 PM
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Perhaps ranked voting this time? *NM*
23/06/2011 12:26:47 AM
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That's probably the best way
23/06/2011 01:59:43 AM
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My girlfriend will inevitably make me watch Dresden Files in the near future,
23/06/2011 04:38:08 AM
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I feel like a Star Wars fanatic hearing that someone's first experience will be with Episode 1.
23/06/2011 06:07:23 AM
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