I think obviously we can hold off on any RC claims by beet or DK for now, we've got three options:
1 - Fox is the cop
2 - Fox is scum
3 - Fox is town and lying
Discarding 3 out of hand for the moment, our presumed next step would be to ask everyone to confirm they are not the cop, or have or know of a role so close as to presumably fill that role. But there's a problem, if he's scum, he may be consider his death highly probable and wish to expose the cop via counterclaim on his way out, he did something very like this last game and of course has a history of fake RCing as power roles like lie-detector or Shaido Semi-doc. I'd cite as possible motive that everyone who selected Option B except FT and Fox himself wanted Fox to RC, which was a strong indicator he'd be the default lynchee and if we didn't buy his claim we'd have lynched him.
Of course he could be telling the truth, and we can confirm this by asking everyone to say they aren't. This leaves us 5 outcomes:
A) Fox is the cop, we take him at his word and drive on to additional RCs
B) Fox is the cop, we don't take him at his word, and have everybody disavow
C) We ask everyone to disavow, and expose our real cop, then lynch Fox
D) We don't ask everyone to disavow and lynch fox, he dies as the cop
E) We don't ask everyone to disavow and lynch fox, he dies as scum, our cop still hidden
These all seem plausible paths except for A, we've no reason if we believe him not to ask everyone to say so. If we pursue and get B, Fox is our cop, of degraded use of course, and FT can be considered probtown. If we get C, we take a horrible hit but the scummers lose a man. If it's D, we lose our cop, who is of lesser value, but at least know we can probably trust FT. And if we get E we get the best possible outcome we can hope for, a dead scummer and a still secret cop. We obviously only get to make two decisions here, whether or not to ask everyone and whether or not to lynch, but they more or less have to be made in tandem. If we don't ask everyone, we lynch him, and if we do ask everyone the decision to lynch will be made for us by that outcome. To me this is a very WIFOM situation, because Fox has a record of doing this sort of claim when scum, but the claim is entirely plausible.
Personally my gut says to just kill him now, because he's unlikely if truthful to help us much beyond what he'd have already done, prob-town FT, and it gives us our chance at E, a dead scummer and a still secret cop, but I may be biased on the subject
But it is further complicated since we have to ask people not just if they are the cop but if they have any reason to think the classic cop isn't in play, even a partial but truthful data dump on this could hurt us even if Fox is being truthful. Regardless I would ask for a consensus on this before anyone starts shouting out that they aren't the cop or for that matter that they are the cop. Either we off him now, without anyone saying if they are or arne't cop or cop-like, because a few idle "Well, I'm not the cop" or "I believe him" [which says the same] gives the scummers one more person to mark off on the real cop hunt, or we ask everybody to say they "Have no reason to significantly doubt fox's claim from their role message" and if that comes up 100% we move on, we need to pick which first. We DO NOT need a number of people casually saying they trust Fox's claim or aren't the cop until we determine which road we want to go, because it gains us nothing, it may cost us nothing but it gains us nothing no matter what.
1 - Fox is the cop
2 - Fox is scum
3 - Fox is town and lying
Discarding 3 out of hand for the moment, our presumed next step would be to ask everyone to confirm they are not the cop, or have or know of a role so close as to presumably fill that role. But there's a problem, if he's scum, he may be consider his death highly probable and wish to expose the cop via counterclaim on his way out, he did something very like this last game and of course has a history of fake RCing as power roles like lie-detector or Shaido Semi-doc. I'd cite as possible motive that everyone who selected Option B except FT and Fox himself wanted Fox to RC, which was a strong indicator he'd be the default lynchee and if we didn't buy his claim we'd have lynched him.
Of course he could be telling the truth, and we can confirm this by asking everyone to say they aren't. This leaves us 5 outcomes:
A) Fox is the cop, we take him at his word and drive on to additional RCs
B) Fox is the cop, we don't take him at his word, and have everybody disavow
C) We ask everyone to disavow, and expose our real cop, then lynch Fox
D) We don't ask everyone to disavow and lynch fox, he dies as the cop
E) We don't ask everyone to disavow and lynch fox, he dies as scum, our cop still hidden
These all seem plausible paths except for A, we've no reason if we believe him not to ask everyone to say so. If we pursue and get B, Fox is our cop, of degraded use of course, and FT can be considered probtown. If we get C, we take a horrible hit but the scummers lose a man. If it's D, we lose our cop, who is of lesser value, but at least know we can probably trust FT. And if we get E we get the best possible outcome we can hope for, a dead scummer and a still secret cop. We obviously only get to make two decisions here, whether or not to ask everyone and whether or not to lynch, but they more or less have to be made in tandem. If we don't ask everyone, we lynch him, and if we do ask everyone the decision to lynch will be made for us by that outcome. To me this is a very WIFOM situation, because Fox has a record of doing this sort of claim when scum, but the claim is entirely plausible.
Personally my gut says to just kill him now, because he's unlikely if truthful to help us much beyond what he'd have already done, prob-town FT, and it gives us our chance at E, a dead scummer and a still secret cop, but I may be biased on the subject

The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
- Albert Einstein
King of Cairhien 20-7-2
Chancellor of the Landsraad, Archduke of Is'Mod
- Albert Einstein
King of Cairhien 20-7-2
Chancellor of the Landsraad, Archduke of Is'Mod
Mafia 22: Day 2 - Get the Ball Rolling
05/05/2011 07:29:12 PM
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Well, I guess that's for the best.
05/05/2011 07:46:52 PM
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Yeah, I guess that's not a worst case scenario
05/05/2011 08:19:50 PM
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Actually, probably best thing that could have happened, to be honest.
05/05/2011 08:36:57 PM
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OK, so the Bergioyn thing was kind of a bust
06/05/2011 04:58:14 AM
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I am against this plan.
06/05/2011 05:53:27 AM
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I'm inclined to agree with beetnemesis, actually.
06/05/2011 08:27:54 AM
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Are you really that sure that DK is evil to vote?
06/05/2011 12:24:21 PM
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Okay, right now I'm looking at Beet, FT, and DK
07/05/2011 02:04:01 AM
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Re: Okay, right now I'm looking at Beet, FT, and DK
07/05/2011 03:01:55 AM
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Re: Okay, right now I'm looking at Beet, FT, and DK
07/05/2011 05:10:09 AM
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A roleclaim seems pretty reasonable
07/05/2011 07:00:53 AM
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I think he wants identity claims, not roleclaims. Otherwise he'd have asked for mine too. *NM*
07/05/2011 07:15:50 AM
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Yes, just character *NM*
07/05/2011 02:22:50 PM
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Ah, that's probably better.
07/05/2011 06:46:03 PM
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Well, if DK is RBIRL,
07/05/2011 08:06:04 PM
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I could
08/05/2011 07:06:44 PM
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Would you mind coding it beforehand?
08/05/2011 08:59:16 PM
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I agree. A code would be ideal here.
08/05/2011 10:14:54 PM
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Good idea. OK, here it is.
09/05/2011 12:28:08 AM
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When you say you "don't like doing codes a lot", does that mean you don't want all of us to do it?
09/05/2011 06:30:52 PM
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Certainly, I'll enlighten as best I can.
07/05/2011 07:15:03 AM
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Yeah, we haven't waited for a modkill in a while. I think that's a problem we need to work on
07/05/2011 04:32:41 PM
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Okay, that pretty much answered all my questions
07/05/2011 04:44:34 PM
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Le Sigh
10/05/2011 01:48:19 AM
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Re: Le Sigh
10/05/2011 04:03:47 AM
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Everybody in Greek myth is drenched in blood.
10/05/2011 04:24:14 AM
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And we don't really have a clue what we're looking for in the scum either.
10/05/2011 06:45:09 PM
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OK, and my decryption:
10/05/2011 05:42:32 AM
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Code checks, let's go ahead an audit them
10/05/2011 07:22:36 AM
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Eh... I'm open to pursuing other avenues, as long as we don't rule out DK
11/05/2011 04:09:20 AM
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Re: Eh... I'm open to pursuing other avenues, as long as we don't rule out DK
11/05/2011 04:19:55 AM
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Re: Eh... I'm open to pursuing other avenues, as long as we don't rule out DK
11/05/2011 05:46:49 AM
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Alexander seems a bit off-flavor, but I can see Leonidas as a possibility
11/05/2011 06:17:51 AM
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Re: Alexander seems a bit off-flavor, but I can see Leonidas as a possibility
11/05/2011 07:04:08 PM
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I've a feeling we could probably exclude the Persians
11/05/2011 07:20:58 PM
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You can go ahead and do that.
11/05/2011 09:17:11 PM
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Plus, there's the whole "well-known" thing
11/05/2011 10:02:14 PM
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Re: Plus, there's the whole "well-known" thing
11/05/2011 11:21:44 PM
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I was referring to ranagrande's "Have you heard of your character" question
12/05/2011 12:39:55 AM
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If you guys are going to guess what my character is, why not jsut ask me to character claim?
12/05/2011 02:53:17 AM
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Re: Plus, there's the whole "well-known" thing
12/05/2011 03:29:52 AM
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I think Troy was in Asia
12/05/2011 03:53:13 AM
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Yes, it's in Anatolia.
12/05/2011 04:50:06 AM
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So I wikipediaed it.
12/05/2011 05:23:37 AM
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Wow, 'historicity' is a word, I never knew that
12/05/2011 05:43:53 AM
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Yeah, I'm not opposed, I had just always assumed the Trojans were Greeks, so I was surprised.
12/05/2011 05:54:24 AM
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Re: Eh... I'm open to pursuing other avenues, as long as we don't rule out DK
11/05/2011 09:16:11 PM
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I actually believe Katie.
11/05/2011 01:11:17 AM
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I think most of us do, but I don't think you've contemplated the facts thoroughly
11/05/2011 03:53:30 AM
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So...
11/05/2011 03:11:35 AM
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Re: So...
11/05/2011 03:51:57 AM
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Wait, we have that?
11/05/2011 04:44:10 AM
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11/05/2011 05:13:50 AM
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Yea, I tend to skim when your posts get too long, unless their life-or-death, so to speak. *NM*
11/05/2011 06:45:07 AM
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One might note that when they get 'too long', there's generally a reason they did
11/05/2011 06:57:38 PM
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Yes, but sometimes that reason is that you want to bury suspicions in a wall of text
. *NM*
11/05/2011 11:20:01 PM
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Probably not
11/05/2011 11:56:11 PM
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I'm not going to lie, I'm trying to decide of you are serious or not.
11/05/2011 05:36:59 AM
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My character claim.
12/05/2011 02:27:03 PM
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Good job at making yourself incredibly suspicious
12/05/2011 03:24:18 PM
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BUM BUM BUMMMMMMMMMMMMM
12/05/2011 04:17:51 PM
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Yeah, that probably requires some explaining away
12/05/2011 09:13:39 PM
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Not true this time.
12/05/2011 11:27:55 PM
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Re: Not true this time.
12/05/2011 11:57:58 PM
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Re: Not true this time.
13/05/2011 12:01:46 AM
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Pretty much that you're wrong
13/05/2011 01:14:28 AM
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I am wrong, judging by Hobo's post
13/05/2011 01:24:38 AM
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I admit this is possible, but...
13/05/2011 01:36:28 AM
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Re: I admit this is possible, but...
13/05/2011 01:46:51 AM
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2 things about that.
12/05/2011 11:26:14 PM
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This is an easy misunderstanding.
13/05/2011 12:24:52 AM
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Actually, can we get a quick headcount?
15/05/2011 12:10:11 AM
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Yo.
15/05/2011 01:15:05 AM
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We seem to have reached an impasse
17/05/2011 01:07:29 PM
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Option Pick (Table)
17/05/2011 11:13:07 PM
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Yeah, I'm not specially fond of roleclaiming this early in the game.
18/05/2011 01:51:36 AM
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Okay Fox, it looks like it's gonna be you
19/05/2011 03:32:47 AM
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I guess that's plausible
19/05/2011 06:02:21 AM
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Re: I guess that's plausible
19/05/2011 06:19:57 AM
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It is a strategy that is most valuable the earlier you use it though.
19/05/2011 06:39:29 AM
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I say don't RC yet. Wait for us to discuss my claim and where to go from here. *NM*
19/05/2011 03:35:49 PM
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Okay, cop claim in play, so what do we want to do?
19/05/2011 06:01:55 AM
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Even if he has been outed as the cop
19/05/2011 06:24:31 AM
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Hm. The roleblocker is a pretty big thing. If one of us is cop though, come foward
19/05/2011 06:54:30 AM
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It also ties up their roleblocker though.
19/05/2011 06:56:29 AM
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The one thing that makes me slightly suspect the claim
19/05/2011 12:49:38 PM
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Nevermind
19/05/2011 12:51:44 PM
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Anyway, you would think that because of my previously flub ups, I'd learn.
19/05/2011 03:43:09 PM
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"Because I've demonstrated a penchant for making mistakes, obviously this time is for real."
19/05/2011 06:21:17 PM
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OK then, I'll RC
20/05/2011 07:23:07 PM
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Makes sense to me.
22/05/2011 05:43:56 PM
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I'm the cop.
22/05/2011 09:50:11 PM
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Well this was easier than expected.
22/05/2011 10:24:52 PM
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Wow, yeah. Wtf is this? Vote: Darth Katie. *NM*
23/05/2011 12:15:14 AM
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Hmm...
23/05/2011 01:42:32 AM
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We can make an argument to lynch her purely off the "lynch all liars" rule as F-T said.
23/05/2011 02:10:11 AM
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*Hits self in the face repeatedly*
23/05/2011 09:19:40 AM
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Did I mention I didn't get a lot of sleep last night?
23/05/2011 09:25:15 AM
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I can believe that at least
23/05/2011 10:29:12 AM
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Oh please
23/05/2011 02:35:28 PM
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This would all be more believable
23/05/2011 03:32:31 PM
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I didn't remember that about Option B
23/05/2011 03:52:11 PM
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I will *Unvote* for now
23/05/2011 05:42:22 PM
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You don't approve of a doctor that can protect himself?
23/05/2011 11:23:58 PM
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Yeah, this is what I expected the other plausible screw-up to be.
23/05/2011 07:10:46 PM
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So... Fox and DK have both claimed cop?
23/05/2011 02:34:30 AM
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Well, now the switch around to a Doc claim.
23/05/2011 03:56:48 PM
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He's Beloved though (if he's not scum)
23/05/2011 04:07:06 PM
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Yeah, this whole thing didn't really work out too well
23/05/2011 04:38:30 PM
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It's been an unmitigated disaster
23/05/2011 06:01:23 PM
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So, uh... Wow.
23/05/2011 07:38:36 PM
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Before this Mass RC idea takes hold...
23/05/2011 07:59:18 PM
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All right...
23/05/2011 08:29:28 PM
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Possibly
23/05/2011 08:51:52 PM
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Was it Kronin or Gher that did the whole "everyone is a robot with a Backup Role" game?
23/05/2011 11:28:05 PM
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I want to start off by saying that I believe DK.
23/05/2011 08:21:26 PM
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Re: I want to start off by saying that I believe DK.
23/05/2011 08:41:10 PM
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Another point against Isaac:
23/05/2011 11:32:14 PM
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Actually, I didn't suspect either you or DK, you brought that up
23/05/2011 11:54:19 PM
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Re: Actually, I didn't suspect either you or DK, you brought that up
24/05/2011 12:28:24 AM
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So, seeing no objections to the mass character claim, let's start!
26/05/2011 01:16:36 AM
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Character Claims (table)
26/05/2011 02:48:44 AM
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Okay here goes.
26/05/2011 09:32:59 PM
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I'm Zeno. *NM*
27/05/2011 01:40:47 AM
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How paradoxical... I actually thought Xena for a moment
27/05/2011 03:08:57 AM
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I guess Xena is close, though it might take a while to get from there to Zeno.
27/05/2011 05:55:32 AM
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All right
28/05/2011 10:33:48 PM
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Re: All right
29/05/2011 12:42:12 AM
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Re: All right
31/05/2011 07:09:31 AM
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Heh, looks like I'm holding out for no particular reason.
30/05/2011 07:11:21 PM
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Kronin, what are we doing about Scott's continued absence?
29/05/2011 11:38:52 PM
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Yeah, I've been waiting on Scott's situation to resolve before doing anything
30/05/2011 02:04:07 AM
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Vote: Scott Blademaster
30/05/2011 10:23:50 PM
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While I generally agree with your reasoning...
31/05/2011 12:10:35 AM
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I was actually thinking along extremely similar lines before we started doing character claims.
31/05/2011 12:28:44 AM
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Re: I was actually thinking along extremely similar lines before we started doing character claims.
31/05/2011 01:28:49 AM
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I believe the point of Socrates trial was that he was falsely accused
31/05/2011 01:08:26 AM
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Re: I believe the point of Socrates trial was that he was falsely accused
31/05/2011 01:35:31 AM
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Re: I believe the point of Socrates trial was that he was falsely accused
31/05/2011 03:28:20 AM
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Meh, I'm not exactly averse to lynching Scott...
31/05/2011 05:25:14 AM
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So, the way I see it, we have two (well, three) options for our lynch
31/05/2011 04:02:14 PM
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I'm a bit confused at the moment.
31/05/2011 06:27:26 PM
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Obviously, I would be against lynching me.
31/05/2011 07:41:15 PM
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I think DK and Fox are telling the truth, simply because we've had no contradictions
31/05/2011 10:11:32 PM
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Re: I think DK and Fox are telling the truth, simply because we've had no contradictions
01/06/2011 12:37:36 AM
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Re: I think DK and Fox are telling the truth, simply because we've had no contradictions
01/06/2011 09:27:32 PM
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Re: So, the way I see it, we have two (well, three) options for our lynch
31/05/2011 08:13:17 PM
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Responses!
31/05/2011 10:41:38 PM
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Re: Responses!
01/06/2011 02:32:22 AM
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That is an awful lot of talking to refute me
01/06/2011 04:41:13 AM
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I could go find my mallet again if brevity is desired, glad you've acknowledged I refuted you though
01/06/2011 05:18:46 AM
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About ?
01/06/2011 09:41:44 PM
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Huh, that was way more revealing than expected
01/06/2011 10:30:55 PM
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It IS pretty hard to say "Oh, well he's a new player" at this point *NM*
02/06/2011 12:40:32 AM
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Kronin actually hasn't answered my question about last Night yet.
02/06/2011 03:17:05 AM
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Well, I do sincerely doubt a philosopher's ring is in play
31/05/2011 10:39:41 PM
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Ohhhh! You know, I looked up a bunch of famous Spartans on Wikipedia when I read that
31/05/2011 10:44:05 PM
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I'm decently suspicious of ranagrande.
01/06/2011 03:55:26 PM
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True- as long as DK protects you, you've got at least one more night
01/06/2011 06:47:36 PM
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Re: True- as long as DK protects you, you've got at least one more night
01/06/2011 08:36:40 PM
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Hey, sorry all.
02/06/2011 04:45:45 AM
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No questions in particular
02/06/2011 05:10:52 AM
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Thoughts
02/06/2011 05:09:37 AM
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So couple of things:
02/06/2011 09:05:16 AM
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Well, basically DK's "Thoughts" post sums up my thoughts pretty well.
03/06/2011 01:34:52 AM
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Yeah, he seems to be prime suspect.
03/06/2011 12:48:30 PM
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I will also Vote: ?
04/06/2011 01:56:32 AM
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Hold off now everyone. We don't want him accidentally lynched. *NM*
04/06/2011 03:14:43 AM
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Re: Hold off now everyone. We don't want him accidentally lynched.
04/06/2011 12:18:53 PM
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Re: Hold off now everyone. We don't want him accidentally lynched.
04/06/2011 02:28:49 PM
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So, our titular rolling ball seems to be headed straight at ?. ?, do you have any thoughts? *NM*
03/06/2011 02:53:37 AM
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I am ?'s Mason Partner.
04/06/2011 06:44:26 PM
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I am itching to vote for him right now.
04/06/2011 07:01:34 PM
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That's true. Not only did he prematurely roleclaim, he prematurely FALSELY roleclaimed *NM*
04/06/2011 09:06:22 PM
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In my opinion that doesn't help him at all.
04/06/2011 07:41:00 PM
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I don't think there's much point in waiting on ? anymore
04/06/2011 09:31:26 PM
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I do agree...BUUUUTTTT
04/06/2011 09:58:09 PM
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Vote: ?
05/06/2011 12:56:57 AM
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I WOULD like to hear what ? has to say... but he's certainly taking his sweet time
05/06/2011 01:19:42 AM
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Twilight
05/06/2011 08:42:02 PM
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Re: Twilight
05/06/2011 09:13:07 PM
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Scott, being dead, was not included in the VNTL. *NM*
05/06/2011 10:26:22 PM
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I think he meant 'what was Scott?' *NM*
06/06/2011 12:27:07 AM
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I suppose this place is as good as any to say, Happy Birthday Gher! *NM*
06/06/2011 08:26:56 PM
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