It could be either you, me, or Stephen here. I'm guessing Stephen.
Guessing Stephen what?
Is mistaken on the Oedipus era.
I picked Archaic because of the Timeline of the Theban Cycle and the prominence of Delphi in the stories, I put 'probably' on it because of the references to Pelops, grandfather of Agamemnon and Menelaus from the Trojan War, and Lauis, Oedipus's father. The Theban cycle was written down sometime around the 750 and 500 BC, and with so much revolving around delphi I've always assumed Pelops was shoe-horned in to add to the atmosphere of woe. Whichever, not classical era.
From the original <a href="http://www.readandfindout.com/rpg/messageboard/201536/">era question</a>, when naming characters from Ancient Greece:
Archaic Greece 800-480 BC
Classical Greece 510 BC to 323 BC (Death of Alexander)
...
Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Alexander the Great and any of their various contemporaries would be classic era, Oedipus Rex would probably be Archaic.
If you had this character and disagreed, you could easily have raised the matter at the time, nobody would have thought it weird to have challenged that or automatically assumed you were he, so why didn't you? I think it is very unrealistic to assume you missed that, the post was obviously pretty prominent, it named you by character, you'd not be having problems now if you said Archaic or Late Helladic. Nor of course does Yuna's choice matter since you didn't know who she was when you gave an era, but she places it as Archaic to classic, which implied she took the date off the Theban Cycle, note the overlap for the Theban Cycle, as late as 500 BC, and the overlap listed for Archaic and Classical Eras, and again my 'probably' comment. The stories are likely even older than that.
Here's the problem, it seems very unrealistic that you could see your characters name linked to an age that explicitly and not take note of it, so it would seem to me that it wold be natural for you to mention that in your claim, what's more, it should seem that would have strongly encouraged you to check the date throughly, decreasing the odds of making the mistake and I would think strongly increasing the odds you would bring it up when you claimed, if for no better reason than to dispute it and let everyone know that the apparent era mistake is a conflict you were aware of, not a mistake that might imply guilt. You jsut don't seem to have had your character on your mind to a degree which would seem realistic to me.
But as to all this, I find it very realistic to do what I had done. I had only checked the date on wiki. I didn't go in depth. I saw 429 BC an said "OK, my date is 429 BC. Marking that on your calender, it's Classical Greece. It say's classic greek on wiki? This has to be right." How is this at all unrealistic? As to why I didn't call you out, why would I draw attention to the one character you happened to name by chance? We weren't sharing character claims so I decided to not draw attention to it. You said "probably" anyway and 429 BC is pretty close to Archaic. I wasn't really thinking about the time it was actually written. Apparently what I was looking at was just when it was performed. I also didn't think my claim would cause this much of a commotion. It's pretty darn close to the era and the mistake is pretty clear. If you can't see how this was an easy mistake, you'll kick yourself if you lynch me.
Go Hokies!
CS/CpE. Yay engineering!
CS/CpE. Yay engineering!
Mafia 22: Day 2 - Get the Ball Rolling
05/05/2011 07:29:12 PM
- 2786 Views
Well, I guess that's for the best.
05/05/2011 07:46:52 PM
- 964 Views
Yeah, I guess that's not a worst case scenario
05/05/2011 08:19:50 PM
- 952 Views
Actually, probably best thing that could have happened, to be honest.
05/05/2011 08:36:57 PM
- 852 Views
OK, so the Bergioyn thing was kind of a bust
06/05/2011 04:58:14 AM
- 836 Views
I am against this plan.
06/05/2011 05:53:27 AM
- 863 Views
I'm inclined to agree with beetnemesis, actually.
06/05/2011 08:27:54 AM
- 964 Views
Are you really that sure that DK is evil to vote?
06/05/2011 12:24:21 PM
- 901 Views
Okay, right now I'm looking at Beet, FT, and DK
07/05/2011 02:04:01 AM
- 896 Views
Re: Okay, right now I'm looking at Beet, FT, and DK
07/05/2011 03:01:55 AM
- 941 Views
Re: Okay, right now I'm looking at Beet, FT, and DK
07/05/2011 05:10:09 AM
- 833 Views
A roleclaim seems pretty reasonable
07/05/2011 07:00:53 AM
- 873 Views
I think he wants identity claims, not roleclaims. Otherwise he'd have asked for mine too. *NM*
07/05/2011 07:15:50 AM
- 506 Views
Yes, just character *NM*
07/05/2011 02:22:50 PM
- 561 Views
Ah, that's probably better.
07/05/2011 06:46:03 PM
- 974 Views
Well, if DK is RBIRL,
07/05/2011 08:06:04 PM
- 995 Views
I could
08/05/2011 07:06:44 PM
- 928 Views
Would you mind coding it beforehand?
08/05/2011 08:59:16 PM
- 990 Views
I agree. A code would be ideal here.
08/05/2011 10:14:54 PM
- 835 Views
Good idea. OK, here it is.
09/05/2011 12:28:08 AM
- 956 Views
When you say you "don't like doing codes a lot", does that mean you don't want all of us to do it?
09/05/2011 06:30:52 PM
- 1002 Views
Certainly, I'll enlighten as best I can.
07/05/2011 07:15:03 AM
- 968 Views
Yeah, we haven't waited for a modkill in a while. I think that's a problem we need to work on
07/05/2011 04:32:41 PM
- 893 Views
Okay, that pretty much answered all my questions
07/05/2011 04:44:34 PM
- 848 Views
Le Sigh
10/05/2011 01:48:19 AM
- 808 Views
Re: Le Sigh
10/05/2011 04:03:47 AM
- 868 Views
Everybody in Greek myth is drenched in blood.
10/05/2011 04:24:14 AM
- 776 Views
And we don't really have a clue what we're looking for in the scum either.
10/05/2011 06:45:09 PM
- 814 Views
OK, and my decryption:
10/05/2011 05:42:32 AM
- 972 Views
Code checks, let's go ahead an audit them
10/05/2011 07:22:36 AM
- 872 Views
Eh... I'm open to pursuing other avenues, as long as we don't rule out DK
11/05/2011 04:09:20 AM
- 838 Views
Re: Eh... I'm open to pursuing other avenues, as long as we don't rule out DK
11/05/2011 04:19:55 AM
- 885 Views
Re: Eh... I'm open to pursuing other avenues, as long as we don't rule out DK
11/05/2011 05:46:49 AM
- 843 Views
Alexander seems a bit off-flavor, but I can see Leonidas as a possibility
11/05/2011 06:17:51 AM
- 1053 Views
Re: Alexander seems a bit off-flavor, but I can see Leonidas as a possibility
11/05/2011 07:04:08 PM
- 867 Views
I've a feeling we could probably exclude the Persians
11/05/2011 07:20:58 PM
- 862 Views
You can go ahead and do that.
11/05/2011 09:17:11 PM
- 917 Views
Plus, there's the whole "well-known" thing
11/05/2011 10:02:14 PM
- 847 Views
Re: Plus, there's the whole "well-known" thing
11/05/2011 11:21:44 PM
- 936 Views
I was referring to ranagrande's "Have you heard of your character" question
12/05/2011 12:39:55 AM
- 865 Views
If you guys are going to guess what my character is, why not jsut ask me to character claim?
12/05/2011 02:53:17 AM
- 745 Views
Re: Plus, there's the whole "well-known" thing
12/05/2011 03:29:52 AM
- 864 Views
I think Troy was in Asia
12/05/2011 03:53:13 AM
- 897 Views
Yes, it's in Anatolia.
12/05/2011 04:50:06 AM
- 888 Views
So I wikipediaed it.
12/05/2011 05:23:37 AM
- 881 Views
Wow, 'historicity' is a word, I never knew that
12/05/2011 05:43:53 AM
- 879 Views
Yeah, I'm not opposed, I had just always assumed the Trojans were Greeks, so I was surprised.
12/05/2011 05:54:24 AM
- 804 Views
Re: Eh... I'm open to pursuing other avenues, as long as we don't rule out DK
11/05/2011 09:16:11 PM
- 827 Views
I actually believe Katie.
11/05/2011 01:11:17 AM
- 841 Views
I think most of us do, but I don't think you've contemplated the facts thoroughly
11/05/2011 03:53:30 AM
- 907 Views
So...
11/05/2011 03:11:35 AM
- 969 Views
Re: So...
11/05/2011 03:51:57 AM
- 845 Views
Wait, we have that?
11/05/2011 04:44:10 AM
- 959 Views
11/05/2011 05:13:50 AM
- 839 Views
Yea, I tend to skim when your posts get too long, unless their life-or-death, so to speak. *NM*
11/05/2011 06:45:07 AM
- 507 Views
One might note that when they get 'too long', there's generally a reason they did
11/05/2011 06:57:38 PM
- 860 Views
Yes, but sometimes that reason is that you want to bury suspicions in a wall of text . *NM*
11/05/2011 11:20:01 PM
- 531 Views
Probably not
11/05/2011 11:56:11 PM
- 782 Views
I'm not going to lie, I'm trying to decide of you are serious or not.
11/05/2011 05:36:59 AM
- 937 Views
My character claim.
12/05/2011 02:27:03 PM
- 905 Views
Good job at making yourself incredibly suspicious
12/05/2011 03:24:18 PM
- 854 Views
BUM BUM BUMMMMMMMMMMMMM
12/05/2011 04:17:51 PM
- 897 Views
Yeah, that probably requires some explaining away
12/05/2011 09:13:39 PM
- 859 Views
Not true this time.
12/05/2011 11:27:55 PM
- 860 Views
Re: Not true this time.
12/05/2011 11:57:58 PM
- 813 Views
Re: Not true this time.
13/05/2011 12:01:46 AM
- 830 Views
Pretty much that you're wrong
13/05/2011 01:14:28 AM
- 850 Views
I am wrong, judging by Hobo's post
13/05/2011 01:24:38 AM
- 824 Views
I admit this is possible, but...
13/05/2011 01:36:28 AM
- 859 Views
Re: I admit this is possible, but...
13/05/2011 01:46:51 AM
- 939 Views
2 things about that.
12/05/2011 11:26:14 PM
- 811 Views
This is an easy misunderstanding.
13/05/2011 12:24:52 AM
- 824 Views
Actually, can we get a quick headcount?
15/05/2011 12:10:11 AM
- 795 Views
Yo.
15/05/2011 01:15:05 AM
- 895 Views
We seem to have reached an impasse
17/05/2011 01:07:29 PM
- 1027 Views
Option Pick (Table)
17/05/2011 11:13:07 PM
- 911 Views
Yeah, I'm not specially fond of roleclaiming this early in the game.
18/05/2011 01:51:36 AM
- 866 Views
Okay Fox, it looks like it's gonna be you
19/05/2011 03:32:47 AM
- 874 Views
I guess that's plausible
19/05/2011 06:02:21 AM
- 877 Views
Re: I guess that's plausible
19/05/2011 06:19:57 AM
- 858 Views
It is a strategy that is most valuable the earlier you use it though.
19/05/2011 06:39:29 AM
- 828 Views
I say don't RC yet. Wait for us to discuss my claim and where to go from here. *NM*
19/05/2011 03:35:49 PM
- 534 Views
Okay, cop claim in play, so what do we want to do?
19/05/2011 06:01:55 AM
- 1028 Views
Even if he has been outed as the cop
19/05/2011 06:24:31 AM
- 795 Views
Hm. The roleblocker is a pretty big thing. If one of us is cop though, come foward
19/05/2011 06:54:30 AM
- 799 Views
It also ties up their roleblocker though.
19/05/2011 06:56:29 AM
- 919 Views
The one thing that makes me slightly suspect the claim
19/05/2011 12:49:38 PM
- 950 Views
Nevermind
19/05/2011 12:51:44 PM
- 951 Views
Anyway, you would think that because of my previously flub ups, I'd learn.
19/05/2011 03:43:09 PM
- 880 Views
"Because I've demonstrated a penchant for making mistakes, obviously this time is for real."
19/05/2011 06:21:17 PM
- 1009 Views
OK then, I'll RC
20/05/2011 07:23:07 PM
- 888 Views
Makes sense to me.
22/05/2011 05:43:56 PM
- 861 Views
I'm the cop.
22/05/2011 09:50:11 PM
- 970 Views
Well this was easier than expected.
22/05/2011 10:24:52 PM
- 878 Views
Wow, yeah. Wtf is this? Vote: Darth Katie. *NM*
23/05/2011 12:15:14 AM
- 484 Views
Hmm...
23/05/2011 01:42:32 AM
- 970 Views
We can make an argument to lynch her purely off the "lynch all liars" rule as F-T said.
23/05/2011 02:10:11 AM
- 1014 Views
*Hits self in the face repeatedly*
23/05/2011 09:19:40 AM
- 828 Views
Did I mention I didn't get a lot of sleep last night?
23/05/2011 09:25:15 AM
- 728 Views
I can believe that at least
23/05/2011 10:29:12 AM
- 925 Views
Oh please
23/05/2011 02:35:28 PM
- 927 Views
This would all be more believable
23/05/2011 03:32:31 PM
- 797 Views
I didn't remember that about Option B
23/05/2011 03:52:11 PM
- 892 Views
I will *Unvote* for now
23/05/2011 05:42:22 PM
- 964 Views
You don't approve of a doctor that can protect himself?
23/05/2011 11:23:58 PM
- 851 Views
Yeah, this is what I expected the other plausible screw-up to be.
23/05/2011 07:10:46 PM
- 822 Views
So... Fox and DK have both claimed cop?
23/05/2011 02:34:30 AM
- 875 Views
Well, now the switch around to a Doc claim.
23/05/2011 03:56:48 PM
- 813 Views
He's Beloved though (if he's not scum)
23/05/2011 04:07:06 PM
- 1007 Views
Yeah, this whole thing didn't really work out too well
23/05/2011 04:38:30 PM
- 816 Views
It's been an unmitigated disaster
23/05/2011 06:01:23 PM
- 860 Views
So, uh... Wow.
23/05/2011 07:38:36 PM
- 878 Views
Before this Mass RC idea takes hold...
23/05/2011 07:59:18 PM
- 902 Views
All right...
23/05/2011 08:29:28 PM
- 986 Views
Possibly
23/05/2011 08:51:52 PM
- 893 Views
Was it Kronin or Gher that did the whole "everyone is a robot with a Backup Role" game?
23/05/2011 11:28:05 PM
- 857 Views
I want to start off by saying that I believe DK.
23/05/2011 08:21:26 PM
- 918 Views
Re: I want to start off by saying that I believe DK.
23/05/2011 08:41:10 PM
- 834 Views
Another point against Isaac:
23/05/2011 11:32:14 PM
- 895 Views
Actually, I didn't suspect either you or DK, you brought that up
23/05/2011 11:54:19 PM
- 911 Views
Re: Actually, I didn't suspect either you or DK, you brought that up
24/05/2011 12:28:24 AM
- 911 Views
So, seeing no objections to the mass character claim, let's start!
26/05/2011 01:16:36 AM
- 787 Views
Character Claims (table)
26/05/2011 02:48:44 AM
- 923 Views
Okay here goes.
26/05/2011 09:32:59 PM
- 792 Views
I'm Zeno. *NM*
27/05/2011 01:40:47 AM
- 538 Views
How paradoxical... I actually thought Xena for a moment
27/05/2011 03:08:57 AM
- 1054 Views
I guess Xena is close, though it might take a while to get from there to Zeno.
27/05/2011 05:55:32 AM
- 833 Views
All right
28/05/2011 10:33:48 PM
- 949 Views
Re: All right
29/05/2011 12:42:12 AM
- 1058 Views
Re: All right
31/05/2011 07:09:31 AM
- 910 Views
Heh, looks like I'm holding out for no particular reason.
30/05/2011 07:11:21 PM
- 1021 Views
Kronin, what are we doing about Scott's continued absence?
29/05/2011 11:38:52 PM
- 995 Views
Yeah, I've been waiting on Scott's situation to resolve before doing anything
30/05/2011 02:04:07 AM
- 907 Views
Vote: Scott Blademaster
30/05/2011 10:23:50 PM
- 1180 Views
While I generally agree with your reasoning...
31/05/2011 12:10:35 AM
- 1040 Views
I was actually thinking along extremely similar lines before we started doing character claims.
31/05/2011 12:28:44 AM
- 884 Views
Re: I was actually thinking along extremely similar lines before we started doing character claims.
31/05/2011 01:28:49 AM
- 851 Views
I believe the point of Socrates trial was that he was falsely accused
31/05/2011 01:08:26 AM
- 903 Views
Re: I believe the point of Socrates trial was that he was falsely accused
31/05/2011 01:35:31 AM
- 1000 Views
Re: I believe the point of Socrates trial was that he was falsely accused
31/05/2011 03:28:20 AM
- 933 Views
Meh, I'm not exactly averse to lynching Scott...
31/05/2011 05:25:14 AM
- 928 Views
So, the way I see it, we have two (well, three) options for our lynch
31/05/2011 04:02:14 PM
- 997 Views
I'm a bit confused at the moment.
31/05/2011 06:27:26 PM
- 858 Views
Obviously, I would be against lynching me.
31/05/2011 07:41:15 PM
- 933 Views
I think DK and Fox are telling the truth, simply because we've had no contradictions
31/05/2011 10:11:32 PM
- 941 Views
Re: I think DK and Fox are telling the truth, simply because we've had no contradictions
01/06/2011 12:37:36 AM
- 877 Views
Re: I think DK and Fox are telling the truth, simply because we've had no contradictions
01/06/2011 09:27:32 PM
- 848 Views
Re: So, the way I see it, we have two (well, three) options for our lynch
31/05/2011 08:13:17 PM
- 1006 Views
Responses!
31/05/2011 10:41:38 PM
- 990 Views
Re: Responses!
01/06/2011 02:32:22 AM
- 826 Views
That is an awful lot of talking to refute me
01/06/2011 04:41:13 AM
- 795 Views
I could go find my mallet again if brevity is desired, glad you've acknowledged I refuted you though
01/06/2011 05:18:46 AM
- 1087 Views
About ?
01/06/2011 09:41:44 PM
- 935 Views
Huh, that was way more revealing than expected
01/06/2011 10:30:55 PM
- 825 Views
It IS pretty hard to say "Oh, well he's a new player" at this point *NM*
02/06/2011 12:40:32 AM
- 496 Views
Kronin actually hasn't answered my question about last Night yet.
02/06/2011 03:17:05 AM
- 810 Views
Well, I do sincerely doubt a philosopher's ring is in play
31/05/2011 10:39:41 PM
- 909 Views
Ohhhh! You know, I looked up a bunch of famous Spartans on Wikipedia when I read that
31/05/2011 10:44:05 PM
- 917 Views
I'm decently suspicious of ranagrande.
01/06/2011 03:55:26 PM
- 960 Views
True- as long as DK protects you, you've got at least one more night
01/06/2011 06:47:36 PM
- 891 Views
Re: True- as long as DK protects you, you've got at least one more night
01/06/2011 08:36:40 PM
- 949 Views
Hey, sorry all.
02/06/2011 04:45:45 AM
- 781 Views
No questions in particular
02/06/2011 05:10:52 AM
- 787 Views
Thoughts
02/06/2011 05:09:37 AM
- 961 Views
So couple of things:
02/06/2011 09:05:16 AM
- 890 Views
Well, basically DK's "Thoughts" post sums up my thoughts pretty well.
03/06/2011 01:34:52 AM
- 856 Views
Yeah, he seems to be prime suspect.
03/06/2011 12:48:30 PM
- 846 Views
I will also Vote: ?
04/06/2011 01:56:32 AM
- 840 Views
Hold off now everyone. We don't want him accidentally lynched. *NM*
04/06/2011 03:14:43 AM
- 427 Views
Re: Hold off now everyone. We don't want him accidentally lynched.
04/06/2011 12:18:53 PM
- 921 Views
Re: Hold off now everyone. We don't want him accidentally lynched.
04/06/2011 02:28:49 PM
- 865 Views
So, our titular rolling ball seems to be headed straight at ?. ?, do you have any thoughts? *NM*
03/06/2011 02:53:37 AM
- 511 Views
I am ?'s Mason Partner.
04/06/2011 06:44:26 PM
- 910 Views
I am itching to vote for him right now.
04/06/2011 07:01:34 PM
- 830 Views
That's true. Not only did he prematurely roleclaim, he prematurely FALSELY roleclaimed *NM*
04/06/2011 09:06:22 PM
- 505 Views
In my opinion that doesn't help him at all.
04/06/2011 07:41:00 PM
- 941 Views
I don't think there's much point in waiting on ? anymore
04/06/2011 09:31:26 PM
- 938 Views
I do agree...BUUUUTTTT
04/06/2011 09:58:09 PM
- 808 Views
Vote: ?
05/06/2011 12:56:57 AM
- 933 Views
I WOULD like to hear what ? has to say... but he's certainly taking his sweet time
05/06/2011 01:19:42 AM
- 860 Views
Twilight
05/06/2011 08:42:02 PM
- 927 Views
Re: Twilight
05/06/2011 09:13:07 PM
- 847 Views
Scott, being dead, was not included in the VNTL. *NM*
05/06/2011 10:26:22 PM
- 480 Views
I think he meant 'what was Scott?' *NM*
06/06/2011 12:27:07 AM
- 518 Views
I suppose this place is as good as any to say, Happy Birthday Gher! *NM*
06/06/2011 08:26:56 PM
- 453 Views