Judging by the nature of the opening flavor text, and the nature of Mafia, I think it's pretty unlikely we're gods.
In any case, I'm not.
I'm not either.
I was trying to think of a way to turn that into a question, maybe trap someone into saying they're a god. Couldn't think of a way to phrase it unobtrusively, though...
So, I've been thinking about what I think is a core question of the game: What would constitute scum?
Here's the flavor text:
Thirteen legends. Thirteen heroes. Thirteen people, factual and fictional, brought to Olympus to aid the gods.
You all turn and see a lion sitting on a marble throne. The lion opens it mouths, and speaks to you all.
"Greetings. It is I, Great Zeus. You all have been brought in from your various tales, legends, and deeds to help us. Some amongst you have thought of turning against the gods, and fighting for evil. We would find out for ourselves, but most of Olympus is busy bickering over a naval battle. So you must debate amongst yourselves and discover who among who has betrayed us.
Now, I am going to go turn into a swan and have sex with mortals."
And with that, he disappeared. It seems it is up to you.
So.
1. We are all from stories, very likely Greek myth (thought not necessarily. In my Marvel Comics game, I imported a DC character. I could easily see Kronin importing a Roman mythic figure, or someone from an Eastern religion or something. Possibly a Jewish figure (Christianity and Islam aren't around yet, so...)
I would bet we're probably all Greek figures, but I think the line between Greek and Roman myth is pretty fluid, so I wouldn't be surprised if some Romans showed up. Other than that though, I am not sure if there's any way to really tell at this point and whether it would even be worth it.
2. It's around the time of the Trojan War. Odysseys is pretty much a given to be in here, because he's so awesome.
The actual game time might be during the Trojan War based on the "bickering over a naval battle" line (though I seem to recall it being more a siege than a naval battle, but whatevs), but my character at least is not contemporary with the Trojan War. I would be a lot of us probably aren't, given we "have been brought in from your various tales, legends, and deeds to help us." I bet there's probably a wide variety of characters.
3. "Some amongst you have thought of turning against the gods, and fighting for evil." That's a big one. Does it mean that some heroes that we would recognize, such as Heracles (Hercules? I forget which is Greek), or Perseus (the guy that killed Medusa) are now evil? Or does it mean that there are pre-existing opponents of the Gods, like Titans, or... I don't know, various monsters, are here?
Basically, if someone is confirmed to be Hercules, does that mean they are confirmed to be "good?" Impossible to tell, for now.
Yeah, impossible to tell, I think. It could really go either way, especially with the moral flexibility inherent to Greek Myth. Is Heracles a hero or a villian? He only did all those labors because he killed his wife and children ...
Honestly, I think the "worst" thing someone can do in Greek myth is disrespect the gods or set yourself on level with them. Thus Arachne's punishment, as was mentioned earlier. So perhaps we should be looking for blasphemers filled with hubris?
Is anyone here someone we would consider to be a "good" monster? Dunno if that's something you'd want to share, but it would definitely shed some light on the situation.
I'm not really sure what you're asking here. Like, if someone's the Minotaur but also a vanilla townie?
Insert theme music here.
Mafia 22: It's Actually Starting!
06/04/2011 04:16:43 AM
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Hah, awesome concept
06/04/2011 04:30:30 AM
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Ok, let's begin.
06/04/2011 04:53:15 AM
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I think that's a safe bet
06/04/2011 05:03:38 AM
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Re: I think that's a safe bet
06/04/2011 05:44:46 AM
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This could be interesting.
06/04/2011 06:03:05 AM
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The Greek Gods are trying to teach us mercy?
06/04/2011 07:57:04 AM
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Are you questioning the gods?
06/04/2011 02:39:40 PM
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You worship Gher? *NM*
06/04/2011 06:44:22 PM
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Hrm, not that I know of...
06/04/2011 08:04:24 PM
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How is that relevant?
06/04/2011 09:27:33 PM
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For future reference
07/04/2011 02:11:22 PM
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What if it's a trick question? *NM*
07/04/2011 02:45:22 PM
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Then it would still lead into that Ghostbusters quote nicely. *NM*
09/04/2011 06:02:05 PM
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It's just not something that comes up very often.
07/04/2011 05:17:03 PM
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So at this point...
07/04/2011 06:15:22 PM
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Relax, friend. It was simple banter such as is common among gatherings of warriors. *NM*
08/04/2011 03:22:18 PM
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I know
08/04/2011 09:24:22 PM
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No, I knew you were joking...
08/04/2011 10:27:09 PM
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I do have a question to get us started:
06/04/2011 02:45:38 PM
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Yes, I have. *NM*
06/04/2011 06:45:35 PM
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As bonus information, however...
07/04/2011 03:54:57 AM
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How about this: Are you male, female, or "other?"
07/04/2011 02:35:35 AM
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I'm male. Do we want to ask human or non-human? (Demigods would count as human.) *NM*
07/04/2011 02:57:05 AM
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Probably not, just male if male or other, or female, race or divine status or such seems a bad idea *NM*
07/04/2011 04:24:45 AM
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Gender Table
08/04/2011 10:19:10 AM
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I see one interesting factoid in this.
09/04/2011 06:08:10 PM
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That is a bit weird. Or maybe Kronin is trying to tell me something?
09/04/2011 06:57:18 PM
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Interesting coincidence.
11/04/2011 05:55:18 AM
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gender's not usualy a big deal tho
11/04/2011 01:16:57 PM
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Well, there was that game where we knew there was a female RB'er
11/04/2011 01:34:08 PM
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Yeah, but a female Achilles is just a tad less believable.
11/04/2011 02:58:57 PM
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fair enough
11/04/2011 04:03:15 PM
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It usually doesn't.
11/04/2011 08:50:25 PM
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I have to disagree, I think this is likely a big deal
11/04/2011 10:49:02 PM
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You missed one- someone ELSE may be lying
12/04/2011 02:11:18 AM
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True enough but I don't think I'd consider that too probable either
12/04/2011 04:43:16 AM
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Well, I'm thinking none of us are divine. But let's think about this...
09/04/2011 07:15:30 PM
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Thoughts
10/04/2011 07:12:50 PM
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Yeah, basically I was asking if anyone was a town-aligned Medusa or whatever
11/04/2011 02:52:25 AM
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Re: Mafia 22: It's Actually Starting!
10/04/2011 02:05:45 AM
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Define factual and fictional
11/04/2011 12:59:01 AM
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Yeah, I feel like there's very thin line between factual and fictional.
11/04/2011 04:44:01 AM
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I think we need to ask the role/character match question, but phrasing worries me
11/04/2011 11:11:19 PM
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I see a major problem with that.
12/04/2011 12:33:03 AM
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I believe it could be worked around with the right phrasing, and I can think of another question too
12/04/2011 01:33:05 AM
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I like the era question better than the role appropriateness question
12/04/2011 02:29:40 AM
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I'm not surprised, and it's not that I don't agree about the problems, but...
12/04/2011 02:09:53 PM
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I really hope Kronin included a Cassandra role.
12/04/2011 04:34:01 AM
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Pretty much screams miller or flawed cop
12/04/2011 01:56:04 PM
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I was thinking something to deliberately drive them insane.
12/04/2011 09:26:24 PM
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Haha I thought about trying something like that if I modded.
13/04/2011 12:04:59 AM
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So do we want to go ahead with the era question?
13/04/2011 10:41:27 PM
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So if I appeared in many periods, I should give the most well known?
14/04/2011 03:27:32 AM
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So, our info thus far
15/04/2011 02:06:43 PM
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Clarification
15/04/2011 09:36:16 PM
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My mistake, missed that
15/04/2011 10:05:49 PM
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I like this idea. Chaos is good. Right?
15/04/2011 10:16:36 PM
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I suppose that could work. At least it means we're doing something. *NM*
15/04/2011 10:43:02 PM
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Cool, looks like we have a plan now we just need some questions for it
16/04/2011 03:08:57 AM
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Gonna need some questions
16/04/2011 08:26:02 PM
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a question
17/04/2011 03:18:43 PM
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What does that even mean? *NM*
17/04/2011 04:11:22 PM
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It's a famous personality test.
17/04/2011 04:30:22 PM
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more questions
17/04/2011 06:28:47 PM
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Sorry I haven't been around. I've just been swamped.
17/04/2011 06:04:26 PM
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Q&A List (Table)
17/04/2011 10:01:11 PM
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I'm thumbs up if
18/04/2011 12:24:51 AM
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Questions (Table)
18/04/2011 12:52:37 AM
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Questions and Answers (Table) - Complete
18/04/2011 01:01:44 AM
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Aw man. 5 is kinda hard...If I do the exchange for two...do I get to choose the two? *NM*
18/04/2011 02:30:33 AM
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Yes. That was the agreed upon decision. *NM*
18/04/2011 03:12:49 AM
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Oh well sorry. I thought the two others were randomly assigned. *NM*
18/04/2011 12:10:48 PM
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my biggest flaw hmm,
18/04/2011 02:54:19 PM
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Ghandi? *NM*
18/04/2011 09:18:14 PM
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I feel like that can apply to most revolutionary thinkers/leaders
18/04/2011 09:59:15 PM
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Yes *NM*
18/04/2011 04:39:49 PM
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Still need Beetnemesis, Gher, and Stephen
18/04/2011 05:35:16 PM
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I need a clarification here.
18/04/2011 09:20:36 PM
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Re: I need a clarification here.
18/04/2011 10:23:16 PM
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1 and 4.
18/04/2011 12:13:00 PM
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Sorry peoples that was me. *NM*
18/04/2011 12:13:21 PM
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That was sorta obvious given that he's not playing in this game *NM*
18/04/2011 01:20:12 PM
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Haha yeah but I thought I needed to clarify.
18/04/2011 09:16:58 PM
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what's happened to Nap btw? really busy or summat? *NM*
18/04/2011 09:24:19 PM
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Yeah 11th grade has taken over his life.
18/04/2011 09:48:37 PM
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HA! 11th grade....
18/04/2011 10:14:24 PM
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Aren't you a college freshmen?
18/04/2011 10:25:52 PM
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I feel so old now *NM*
18/04/2011 10:27:11 PM
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It's what you get for bragging about it.
18/04/2011 11:19:40 PM
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its in your profile... *NM*
18/04/2011 11:34:14 PM
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So you're claiming equality with the gods then?
19/04/2011 12:30:18 AM
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Yea, that's why it's odd.
18/04/2011 11:54:44 PM
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Hmm... two years ago would have been game 5
19/04/2011 01:24:45 AM
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Holy God, was that really two whole years ago?
19/04/2011 01:31:42 AM
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Yup
19/04/2011 02:35:10 AM
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Stop making me feel like a noob! *NM*
19/04/2011 04:39:44 AM
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Kronin doesn't count, he's the mod. We're supposed to confuse him. *NM*
18/04/2011 09:28:52 PM
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ANNOUNCEMENT
18/04/2011 09:33:46 PM
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Way to screw it up for the rest of us, Berg!
18/04/2011 09:56:43 PM
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he must be against the gods! lets lynch him *NM*
18/04/2011 10:57:31 PM
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Yes, the gods would know if we didn't! I know they're watching us! *NM*
18/04/2011 11:00:33 PM
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yeah, they can see what you are doing right now, put that down. *NM*
18/04/2011 11:03:38 PM
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So moving along...
20/04/2011 03:16:45 AM
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Heyo, sorry I've been quiet. Some thoughts!
20/04/2011 07:38:58 AM
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Hey, not everybody can be the good wife who stays at home and knits.
20/04/2011 07:51:35 AM
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We might as well start coming up with Criteria for the Attrition List (Table)
20/04/2011 06:17:51 PM
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Re: We might as well start coming up with Criteria for the Attrition List (Table)
20/04/2011 06:46:02 PM
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Post counts
20/04/2011 09:37:04 PM
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No! I've dropped to fourth and sixth!
20/04/2011 09:45:09 PM
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I felt like I was posting way less than normal. Good thing I wasn't
20/04/2011 10:21:29 PM
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by the way, Kronin, I unvoted in the same post that I voted for FT *NM*
20/04/2011 09:41:46 PM
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Kay.
20/04/2011 11:20:30 PM
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I guess we have our five criteria then, let us proceed
22/04/2011 09:53:49 PM
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Anti-Town Citations (Table)
22/04/2011 09:54:43 PM
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Hmm. Thought I'd posted this already.
26/04/2011 07:02:48 AM
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Re: Hmm. Thought I'd posted this already.
26/04/2011 09:21:29 PM
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Sure, but if he thought that was anti-town, why not mention it earlier? *NM*
27/04/2011 12:50:00 AM
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Crtieria #3 - Questions Asked (Table)
22/04/2011 11:32:20 PM
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I suggested one.
23/04/2011 02:20:15 AM
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Criteria #5 - Slow to answer (Table)
22/04/2011 10:56:09 PM
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One interesting question that we haven't asked.
23/04/2011 04:26:30 PM
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Hm. Benefits to lynching Bergioyn, or Fox and Ravens
25/04/2011 12:21:59 AM
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Re: Hm. Benefits to lynching Bergioyn, or Fox and Ravens
25/04/2011 01:16:07 AM
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Re: Hm. Benefits to lynching Bergioyn, or Fox and Ravens
25/04/2011 04:03:38 AM
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But how else shall the the auguries be told?*
25/04/2011 01:04:18 PM
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Berg interacted with Ajax, so I assumed Trojan War
25/04/2011 11:02:59 PM
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And I interacted with Nestor and you with Odyseuss, not necessarily a lock on Troy
26/04/2011 01:06:24 AM
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I think this comes down to Bergioyn and Scott
26/04/2011 09:59:29 PM
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Re: I think this comes down to Bergioyn and Scott
27/04/2011 12:43:07 AM
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Vote: Bergioyn
27/04/2011 10:19:29 PM
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Vote: Bergioyn
27/04/2011 10:39:39 PM
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Eh okay. We can carry the list to tomorrow for Scott. Vote: Bergoiyn *NM*
27/04/2011 10:56:33 PM
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I was actually wondering what Kronin's non-attendance policy was.
28/04/2011 01:13:08 AM
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Do modkills go to night?
28/04/2011 01:16:37 AM
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Okay two modkills.
28/04/2011 01:19:29 AM
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You can't directly quote private messages from the mod. *NM*
28/04/2011 01:36:25 AM
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I haven't had the time to keep up with attendance.
28/04/2011 04:02:20 PM
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Why start tomorrow? We have inactives right now. *NM*
28/04/2011 06:01:11 PM
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I don't want to institute a policy with no previous warning. *NM*
28/04/2011 06:31:23 PM
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I woudl start issuing messages now. They already should know the policies, after all. *NM*
28/04/2011 07:39:15 PM
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Of course, you're also the mod. So I really have no place in questioning this now. *NM*
28/04/2011 07:41:39 PM
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Well, inaction has been a modkillable offense for nearly a year.
29/04/2011 01:50:39 AM
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Longer than that
29/04/2011 03:10:04 AM
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Re: Longer than that
29/04/2011 03:15:02 AM
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Re: I was actually wondering what Kronin's non-attendance policy was.
28/04/2011 07:51:56 PM
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I think I agree with this.
28/04/2011 08:01:15 PM
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Re: I was actually wondering what Kronin's non-attendance policy was.
29/04/2011 01:54:48 AM
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Re: I was actually wondering what Kronin's non-attendance policy was.
29/04/2011 09:19:39 PM
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I suppose I can support this. He's not the only low-poster, but we can only do one lynch
28/04/2011 02:43:23 AM
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This does make sense.
28/04/2011 02:14:31 PM
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I was just thinking that! And it was for similar reasons, too...
28/04/2011 07:43:39 PM
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Looks like Berg is one vote away from the lynch.
29/04/2011 09:15:03 PM
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Re: Looks like Berg is one vote away from the lynch.
29/04/2011 09:23:25 PM
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I'm really sorry guys, I have been so busy I haven't been able to be online.
01/05/2011 09:19:14 PM
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What's the story, morning glory? *NM*
04/05/2011 04:57:38 PM
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Don't you guys get that I'm slow?
04/05/2011 05:44:20 PM
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