Well, an SK with limited kills is pretty unfair to the SK to begin with. And especially if you knew the number I'm limited to, then it would just be an almost unwinnable role.
So, really it's just whether you believe my claim that I'm a vig, or I'm mafia.
Well you might be right about Light being a baddie, but for the purposes of this game, he is on the side of justice and truth.
I mean, in context of this game, we have Hikari, whom Yuna said represents "light"... wouldn't it be ironic to throw in a guy named Light who is actually a baddie, but works for the "light" side? I don't know if that makes any sense (lol), but it sounds like it was a deliberate thing to me.
So, really it's just whether you believe my claim that I'm a vig, or I'm mafia.
to cover it up.
If I had to put it to probabilities...
If HI is, in fact, Light Yagami:
25% chance he's a vigilante
25% chance he's Mafia
50% chance he's SK
So, right off the bat, for me it's a 3/4 chance that lynching him is a good idea.
Now, in another situation I'd agree with trying to control him. But... let me put it this way. Fine, we're controlling him. What should we make him do? No kill tonight, for certain.
As for letting the Mafia take him out... well, I know if I was Mafia, I'd either try to frame him, to force us to lynch him tomorrow (easy enough to do, all it takes is one of the scum to have a one-time use kill ability), or I'd try to control the vigilante vote myself.
Controlling him has some merits, but I think we should err on the side of caution.
(And, again, Light is pretty terrible. He envisions a "perfect world" without criminals, with him as its god. Except he kills everyone who gets in his way. A vig role COULD make sense, but I could just as easily see a role message of something like "You must kill them all, to make a better world!"
If I had to put it to probabilities...
If HI is, in fact, Light Yagami:
25% chance he's a vigilante
25% chance he's Mafia
50% chance he's SK
So, right off the bat, for me it's a 3/4 chance that lynching him is a good idea.
Now, in another situation I'd agree with trying to control him. But... let me put it this way. Fine, we're controlling him. What should we make him do? No kill tonight, for certain.
As for letting the Mafia take him out... well, I know if I was Mafia, I'd either try to frame him, to force us to lynch him tomorrow (easy enough to do, all it takes is one of the scum to have a one-time use kill ability), or I'd try to control the vigilante vote myself.
Controlling him has some merits, but I think we should err on the side of caution.
(And, again, Light is pretty terrible. He envisions a "perfect world" without criminals, with him as its god. Except he kills everyone who gets in his way. A vig role COULD make sense, but I could just as easily see a role message of something like "You must kill them all, to make a better world!"
Well you might be right about Light being a baddie, but for the purposes of this game, he is on the side of justice and truth.
I mean, in context of this game, we have Hikari, whom Yuna said represents "light"... wouldn't it be ironic to throw in a guy named Light who is actually a baddie, but works for the "light" side? I don't know if that makes any sense (lol), but it sounds like it was a deliberate thing to me.
Mafia game 20 Day One: Hikari to Yami
08/12/2010 11:04:35 PM
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I'm gonna go ahead and RC, plus questions
09/12/2010 01:47:45 PM
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Interesting.
09/12/2010 07:16:00 PM
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Demonstration would be:
09/12/2010 07:36:38 PM
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That's not a great demonstration
09/12/2010 07:55:11 PM
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Let's do this.
09/12/2010 08:24:57 PM
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On a complete wild jump...
10/12/2010 04:29:41 AM
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He's trying to create a world WITHOUT evil. Don't you know anything!?!
10/12/2010 05:44:15 AM
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He's failing pretty hard *NM*
10/12/2010 06:52:15 AM
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Well, that shouldn't matter anyway for the purposes of the question
10/12/2010 07:51:49 AM
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I assumed he was kidding.
10/12/2010 08:25:38 AM
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He does have a certain tragic vilian thing going on
10/12/2010 12:02:19 PM
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Yes, I can agree that there's something debateable about the nature of his evil.
10/12/2010 06:24:21 PM
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Re: Yes, I can agree that there's something debateable about the nature of his evil.
10/12/2010 07:38:42 PM
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It's less about his descent into villainy, and more about Light vs. L
10/12/2010 08:23:30 PM
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Yeah, I was kidding. I agree with what you said
10/12/2010 02:32:31 PM
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It just means that he's inappropriate.
10/12/2010 02:55:25 PM
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Re: I'm gonna go ahead and RC, plus questions
10/12/2010 04:41:44 AM
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Hah, me too. Dragonball is honestly terrible...
10/12/2010 05:34:00 AM
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Ditto on DragonBall-Z
10/12/2010 01:06:52 PM
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Haha so true
10/12/2010 02:24:59 PM
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Exactly!
10/12/2010 03:49:22 PM
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Initial Info (Table)
09/12/2010 07:36:31 PM
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What's with all these yeses from ranagrande?
09/12/2010 08:28:40 PM
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So... we have no anime experts here? I think we should all name 4 sources
10/12/2010 03:30:45 AM
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This might not be a good idea.
10/12/2010 11:54:09 PM
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The 4 sources, or the linking to tvtropes? *NM*
11/12/2010 10:02:15 PM
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Both? I atleast tend to get trapped in tvtropes for hours when someone links a page. *NM*
11/12/2010 10:21:25 PM
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Glad to know I'm not the only one
11/12/2010 10:55:56 PM
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A question for Isaac
12/12/2010 08:20:35 PM
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Re: A question for Isaac
12/12/2010 09:28:55 PM
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Re: A question for Isaac
12/12/2010 10:17:43 PM
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RBIRL
13/12/2010 05:27:26 AM
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Speculations
13/12/2010 09:21:04 AM
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Why do you think there are multiple factions?
13/12/2010 11:23:33 PM
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So it seems like some people don't want to do the 4 sources thing
13/12/2010 02:38:24 PM
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Re: So it seems like some people don't want to do the 4 sources thing
13/12/2010 03:35:15 PM
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It SOUNDS like there should be more than one s!
13/12/2010 03:49:24 PM
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Re: It SOUNDS like there should be more than one s!
13/12/2010 04:17:56 PM
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Oddly enough, my name is Daniel
13/12/2010 04:24:34 PM
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Hmm... I guess I didn't
13/12/2010 03:52:18 PM
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I used to write 'Issac' out of finger-memory of typing 'Caasi' . I think it's better now.
13/12/2010 09:25:43 PM
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I'm here. But not for long. These next few weeks will be quite busy.
13/12/2010 07:16:17 PM
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Any thoughts or clues?
14/12/2010 10:26:15 PM
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Finals suck.
15/12/2010 01:36:47 AM
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I'm not going to do this.
15/12/2010 01:52:13 AM
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Sorry, I won't do this.
15/12/2010 04:18:00 AM
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Fair enough.
15/12/2010 04:23:08 AM
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There's nothing wrong with suggesting it.
15/12/2010 04:25:51 AM
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How about Isaac? He has shown himself to be pure evil on numerous games! *NM*
15/12/2010 07:48:38 AM
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Hm. Well, I don't think we should give out any more role info
15/12/2010 09:19:07 PM
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Re: Hm. Well, I don't think we should give out any more role info
15/12/2010 10:03:43 PM
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Yeah, as of yet we don't know that much about anyone
16/12/2010 01:55:59 PM
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The GREAT AND POWERFUL INFODUMP (chart)
16/12/2010 03:52:55 PM
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Mine's wrong
16/12/2010 08:39:51 PM
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Thank you for doing the chart by the way *NM*
16/12/2010 08:44:30 PM
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Sure. Now we just have to see if it's useful at all...
16/12/2010 09:07:27 PM
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Not me! I'm not quiet! See? I'm talking! *NM*
16/12/2010 09:39:49 PM
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Not me either!
16/12/2010 11:25:31 PM
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FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!
17/12/2010 05:39:36 PM
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They can take our land!
18/12/2010 03:06:47 AM
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I actually said a massclaim was a BAD idea. Hm. Is Haemophilus influenzae Light Yagami?
18/12/2010 02:28:39 PM
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Am I missing something?
19/12/2010 05:18:17 AM
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He really isn't.
19/12/2010 08:14:32 AM
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Yeah, I was just confused, because we suddenly had a big convo about it
19/12/2010 03:39:12 PM
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Okay, I found the discussion.
19/12/2010 05:17:29 PM
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Well if he WAS Light, I would vote to lynch
19/12/2010 09:31:47 PM
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I think there's a consensus of Light=KiraKiller=bad
19/12/2010 09:51:21 PM
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I really don't see Light Yagami as being obviously evil
19/12/2010 11:24:42 PM
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He's the textbook definition of a serial killer.
20/12/2010 02:19:45 AM
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3 in 30 days? I could beat that out over a long weekend. *NM*
20/12/2010 04:52:22 AM
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The time limit means there is a cooling period, and rules out crimes of passion. *NM*
20/12/2010 05:05:35 PM
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Their bell tower? *NM*
16/12/2010 11:21:00 PM
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Oh sure
16/12/2010 11:53:09 PM
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... so that was more depressing that I was anticipating.
18/12/2010 03:09:52 AM
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It's a rather obscure reference to Charles Whitman, translate as 'going postal'
18/12/2010 03:57:17 AM
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Oh and I forgot to mention this. I did say that I was from a modern setting. *NM*
20/12/2010 01:42:13 AM
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Update
20/12/2010 04:50:48 AM
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Hahaha awesome.
20/12/2010 05:31:05 AM
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Re: Hahaha awesome.
20/12/2010 05:59:42 AM
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Oy.
20/12/2010 05:20:38 PM
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F-T made it pretty clear that Light was eeeeevil.
20/12/2010 09:48:57 PM
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I think the real issue is, should we try to control him, or should we just lynch him?
20/12/2010 11:55:09 PM
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Well, the obvious choice is not to kill anyone Tonight
21/12/2010 03:01:57 AM
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Yeah, I won't be killing anyone Tonight.
21/12/2010 04:29:53 AM
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Something about this situation bugs the heck out of me
21/12/2010 04:49:11 AM
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Improbable how? *NM*
21/12/2010 05:01:00 AM
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The pieces don't add up
21/12/2010 06:00:07 AM
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Well, Death Note is pretty popular.
21/12/2010 04:59:27 PM
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Is it?
21/12/2010 06:06:16 PM
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Actually, yeah. It's th only legit anime I hear about besides DBZ and Gundam and that stuff.
21/12/2010 07:03:09 PM
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No, you're definitely overthinking it
21/12/2010 08:50:45 PM
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That's not what I meant
22/12/2010 01:44:45 AM
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Actually, my initial post description does fit Light "like a glove"
22/12/2010 05:40:00 AM
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I just glanced at the wiki- it's pretty dense, without explaining much
22/12/2010 05:43:30 AM
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Re: I just glanced at the wiki- it's pretty dense, without explaining much
22/12/2010 05:56:17 AM
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Re: I just glanced at the wiki- it's pretty dense, without explaining much
22/12/2010 03:02:26 PM
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Honestly, I could very easily believe an Operative=Town claim.
22/12/2010 04:00:07 PM
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I should have said "Operative if he intended to rule, instead of kill himself"
22/12/2010 04:46:58 PM
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Just popping in.
21/12/2010 07:47:18 AM
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Vote for HI!
21/12/2010 02:25:56 PM
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Re: Vote for HI!
21/12/2010 09:21:11 PM
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I think HI made a minor error when F-T guessed he was Light, and the "limited use vig" is an attempt
22/12/2010 01:22:51 AM
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What error is that?
22/12/2010 05:54:33 AM
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Blooooood
28/12/2010 06:58:25 PM
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Vote: Haemophilus influenzae
29/12/2010 12:08:17 AM
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Re: Vote: Haemophilus influenzae
29/12/2010 12:49:51 AM
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Yeah, I just didn't want to appear to be trying to get him lynched wile people aren't around.
29/12/2010 04:20:08 AM
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