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Re: The problem with a no lynch Isaac Send a noteboard - 16/12/2010 08:33:22 PM
Is that it essentially gives the Mafia (or whatever, Yami, I guess) a free kill.

And then, on Day 2, we're more or less back where we started. Except then we go "Ooooh, Stephen's dead, why would someone do that?" When in reality, the Mafia's target was probably just as random as anyone else.

There's a whole mathematical justification for never no-lynching as well- I think Fanatic-Templar posted it a few games back?- but I don't remember the specifics.

Suffice to say, no-lynching is usually considered a Bad Idea- heck, suggesting it is what got Isaac lynched last game.


I do still hold the opinion that it is an occasionally viable option, I also consider our 'suggesting it is a scum tell' viewpoint as absolutely absurd, since it basically operates on a combination of echo chamber and some really bizarre logical leaps about my implied motives when bringing it up. I'm vaguely tempted to suggest it now just so if I do get lynched I can thumb my nose at everyone who assumes its some bizarre scummer tactic of mine. :P
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I got mine. I'm here. *NM* - 08/12/2010 11:49:20 PM 696 Views
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Justice has come. *NM* - 09/12/2010 12:43:02 AM 606 Views
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Got my stuff stashed, and ready to go *NM* - 09/12/2010 01:09:36 AM 655 Views
Yep. *NM* - 09/12/2010 01:14:40 AM 679 Views
Got it! *NM* - 09/12/2010 01:32:17 AM 716 Views
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I'm here. *NM* - 09/12/2010 07:27:48 AM 684 Views
Yep *NM* - 09/12/2010 07:52:43 AM 716 Views
Hell, I don't know this environment at all. Let's do it. *NM* - 09/12/2010 08:19:24 AM 660 Views
I'm gonna go ahead and RC, plus questions - 09/12/2010 01:47:45 PM 1262 Views
EBWOP - 09/12/2010 02:16:13 PM 1087 Views
Re: I'm gonna go ahead and RC, plus questions - 09/12/2010 02:42:54 PM 1098 Views
Re: I'm gonna go ahead and RC, plus questions - 09/12/2010 03:16:36 PM 1186 Views
Some answers - 09/12/2010 02:57:11 PM 1160 Views
Re: I'm gonna go ahead and RC, plus questions - 09/12/2010 03:09:51 PM 1097 Views
Ok better answers...I did some research. - 09/12/2010 03:17:45 PM 1007 Views
Re: I'm gonna go ahead and RC, plus questions - 09/12/2010 03:53:57 PM 1165 Views
Interesting. - 09/12/2010 07:16:00 PM 1192 Views
Demonstration would be: - 09/12/2010 07:36:38 PM 1232 Views
Ah. - 09/12/2010 07:48:16 PM 1289 Views
That's not a great demonstration - 09/12/2010 07:55:11 PM 1135 Views
Hm, bold. - 09/12/2010 08:34:32 PM 1190 Views
How often does Isaac hammer anyway? - 10/12/2010 04:19:00 AM 1272 Views
Re: I'm gonna go ahead and RC, plus questions - 09/12/2010 08:11:29 PM 1035 Views
Let's do this. - 09/12/2010 08:24:57 PM 1385 Views
damn, not sure why it posted with that. Sorry all. *NM* - 09/12/2010 08:26:33 PM 1081 Views
On a complete wild jump... - 10/12/2010 04:29:41 AM 1185 Views
He's trying to create a world WITHOUT evil. Don't you know anything!?! - 10/12/2010 05:44:15 AM 1053 Views
He's failing pretty hard *NM* - 10/12/2010 06:52:15 AM 707 Views
Well, that shouldn't matter anyway for the purposes of the question - 10/12/2010 07:51:49 AM 1197 Views
I assumed he was kidding. - 10/12/2010 08:25:38 AM 1116 Views
Yeah, I was kidding. I agree with what you said - 10/12/2010 02:32:31 PM 1009 Views
It just means that he's inappropriate. - 10/12/2010 02:55:25 PM 1104 Views
I completely missed the thread where this in-joke started *NM* - 10/12/2010 07:15:49 PM 666 Views
It was from the Community board - 10/12/2010 08:03:08 PM 1103 Views
Yeah, he is pretty awesome as far as villains go. - 10/12/2010 06:18:57 PM 1104 Views
Well, I don't know anything about that series - 10/12/2010 07:47:14 AM 1159 Views
Man, I gotta start watchign Death Note again - 10/12/2010 05:25:39 PM 1018 Views
Re: I'm gonna go ahead and RC, plus questions - 09/12/2010 10:03:08 PM 1147 Views
Huh - 09/12/2010 11:48:14 PM 1028 Views
Re: I'm gonna go ahead and RC, plus questions - 10/12/2010 04:41:44 AM 1104 Views
Hah, me too. Dragonball is honestly terrible... - 10/12/2010 05:34:00 AM 1034 Views
Ditto on DragonBall-Z - 10/12/2010 01:06:52 PM 1160 Views
Haha so true - 10/12/2010 02:24:59 PM 1112 Views
Exactly! - 10/12/2010 03:49:22 PM 1028 Views
Now that's dedication to nostalgia - 10/12/2010 04:03:46 PM 1009 Views
Re: Now that's dedication to nostalgia - 10/12/2010 05:19:42 PM 1090 Views
I had to learn it from the manga . - 10/12/2010 06:28:48 PM 1057 Views
RBIRL - 09/12/2010 07:17:47 PM 1052 Views
Initial Info (Table) - 09/12/2010 07:36:31 PM 1093 Views
What's with all these yeses from ranagrande? - 09/12/2010 08:28:40 PM 1136 Views
Re: What's with all these yeses from ranagrande? - 09/12/2010 08:55:02 PM 1045 Views
I like answering either/or questions with "yes" - 09/12/2010 10:25:15 PM 1095 Views
So... we have no anime experts here? I think we should all name 4 sources - 10/12/2010 03:30:45 AM 1025 Views
I don't know if that will at all be useful - 10/12/2010 03:52:59 AM 1086 Views
Hm, the whole "modern times" thing could work against us... - 10/12/2010 05:33:14 AM 1142 Views
Sure, why not - 10/12/2010 05:07:49 AM 985 Views
OK, here are my 4 - 10/12/2010 05:42:27 AM 1173 Views
I was going to agree to this... - 10/12/2010 06:59:09 AM 1191 Views
I'm going to have to agree. I think I may have said too much, or - 10/12/2010 07:41:02 AM 979 Views
I'm with you here - 10/12/2010 03:53:58 PM 1093 Views
Alright then - 10/12/2010 02:24:08 PM 1119 Views
Sure - 10/12/2010 04:44:04 PM 1070 Views
This might not be a good idea. - 10/12/2010 11:54:09 PM 1085 Views
The 4 sources, or the linking to tvtropes? *NM* - 11/12/2010 10:02:15 PM 649 Views
Both? I atleast tend to get trapped in tvtropes for hours when someone links a page. *NM* - 11/12/2010 10:21:25 PM 656 Views
Glad to know I'm not the only one - 11/12/2010 10:55:56 PM 1073 Views
At the moment i've been on tvtropes for two and a half hours - 12/12/2010 12:37:17 AM 1120 Views
The "Random" button is my downfall. *NM* - 12/12/2010 02:54:55 AM 669 Views
Both. - 15/12/2010 04:23:08 AM 1270 Views
Umm. I'm not really sure I want to do this. *NM* - 11/12/2010 12:00:56 AM 613 Views
I agree. I'll have to think about it. *NM* - 11/12/2010 11:10:59 AM 647 Views
Whoa, where have I been? Finals suck. - 10/12/2010 06:42:02 PM 1019 Views
RBIRL - 12/12/2010 08:33:17 AM 1120 Views
A question for Isaac - 12/12/2010 08:20:35 PM 1126 Views
Re: A question for Isaac - 12/12/2010 09:28:55 PM 1168 Views
Re: A question for Isaac - 12/12/2010 10:17:43 PM 1048 Views
This one's tricky - 13/12/2010 12:23:36 AM 1216 Views
Thanks. That does clear things up a bit. *NM* - 13/12/2010 09:07:41 AM 556 Views
RBIRL - 13/12/2010 01:25:18 AM 1117 Views
RBIRL - 13/12/2010 05:27:26 AM 993 Views
1 sentence summary of VotF - 13/12/2010 09:13:48 AM 1107 Views
Although he relents if it's "justified" *NM* - 13/12/2010 02:29:58 PM 644 Views
Speculations - 13/12/2010 09:21:04 AM 1078 Views
Why do you think there are multiple factions? - 13/12/2010 11:23:33 PM 954 Views
Because the game isn't over yet - 14/12/2010 12:56:35 AM 1165 Views
Ahhh. - 14/12/2010 02:10:28 AM 1080 Views
announcement - 13/12/2010 11:44:04 AM 1005 Views
So it seems like some people don't want to do the 4 sources thing - 13/12/2010 02:38:24 PM 1117 Views
Re: So it seems like some people don't want to do the 4 sources thing - 13/12/2010 03:35:15 PM 1132 Views
It SOUNDS like there should be more than one s! - 13/12/2010 03:49:24 PM 1075 Views
Re: It SOUNDS like there should be more than one s! - 13/12/2010 04:17:56 PM 1139 Views
Oddly enough, my name is Daniel - 13/12/2010 04:24:34 PM 1056 Views
Well, the choice was not coincidental - 13/12/2010 04:40:01 PM 1116 Views
Hah, that's right - 13/12/2010 09:06:03 PM 976 Views
Hmm... I guess I didn't - 13/12/2010 03:52:18 PM 1102 Views
mokona isn't a monster, mokona is MOKONA - 13/12/2010 05:45:02 PM 1094 Views
I will look when I have some more time. - 13/12/2010 06:32:43 PM 1093 Views
Re: I will look when I have some more time. - 13/12/2010 06:53:40 PM 1117 Views
Damn, they spelled your name wrong on your Social Security card? - 13/12/2010 06:26:22 PM 1010 Views
I'm here. But not for long. These next few weeks will be quite busy. - 13/12/2010 07:16:17 PM 969 Views
EBWOP - 13/12/2010 07:16:46 PM 1104 Views
Kind of back, but not quite - 13/12/2010 10:47:30 PM 1140 Views
Re: Kind of back, but not quite - 14/12/2010 02:18:56 AM 1049 Views
Any thoughts or clues? - 14/12/2010 10:26:15 PM 1177 Views
Finals suck. - 15/12/2010 01:36:47 AM 1086 Views
I'm not going to do this. - 15/12/2010 01:52:13 AM 1063 Views
I.... don't know. - 15/12/2010 03:25:22 AM 929 Views
It's true, at least it was something. - 15/12/2010 04:23:44 AM 1125 Views
Sorry, I won't do this. - 15/12/2010 04:18:00 AM 995 Views
Fair enough. - 15/12/2010 04:23:08 AM 1177 Views
There's nothing wrong with suggesting it. - 15/12/2010 04:25:51 AM 1106 Views
Maybe Blackadder for changing his name like a jerk? - 15/12/2010 04:59:20 AM 1193 Views
You know, you may have something there.... - 15/12/2010 08:39:22 AM 1159 Views
I agree. - 16/12/2010 12:56:44 AM 1072 Views
Hm. Well, I don't think we should give out any more role info - 15/12/2010 09:19:07 PM 1072 Views
Re: Hm. Well, I don't think we should give out any more role info - 15/12/2010 10:03:43 PM 1158 Views
Well we COULD roleclaim. - 16/12/2010 12:58:28 AM 1112 Views
Yeah, as of yet we don't know that much about anyone - 16/12/2010 01:55:59 PM 1130 Views
The problem with a no lynch - 16/12/2010 03:16:31 PM 1077 Views
Oh right, yeah - 16/12/2010 06:05:23 PM 1068 Views
Re: The problem with a no lynch - 16/12/2010 08:33:22 PM 1071 Views
The GREAT AND POWERFUL INFODUMP (chart) - 16/12/2010 03:52:55 PM 1090 Views
My male/female thing really should change to mostly female. *NM* - 16/12/2010 06:09:18 PM 609 Views
Fixed. If anyone else spots errors, let me know *NM* - 16/12/2010 08:33:08 PM 667 Views
Mine's wrong - 16/12/2010 08:39:51 PM 1194 Views
Thank you for doing the chart by the way *NM* - 16/12/2010 08:44:30 PM 635 Views
Sure. Now we just have to see if it's useful at all... - 16/12/2010 09:07:27 PM 1119 Views
Not me! I'm not quiet! See? I'm talking! *NM* - 16/12/2010 09:39:49 PM 517 Views
Not me either! - 16/12/2010 11:25:31 PM 1093 Views
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM! - 17/12/2010 05:39:36 PM 1104 Views
They can take our land! - 18/12/2010 03:06:47 AM 1232 Views
I actually said a massclaim was a BAD idea. Hm. Is Haemophilus influenzae Light Yagami? - 18/12/2010 02:28:39 PM 1105 Views
I don't want to lynch our vig though ... - 18/12/2010 04:43:52 PM 1055 Views
Well we have to kill someone - 18/12/2010 07:14:28 PM 1127 Views
Am I missing something? - 19/12/2010 05:18:17 AM 1189 Views
He really isn't. - 19/12/2010 08:14:32 AM 1165 Views
Yeah, I was just confused, because we suddenly had a big convo about it - 19/12/2010 03:39:12 PM 1090 Views
Okay, I found the discussion. - 19/12/2010 05:17:29 PM 1147 Views
Well if he WAS Light, I would vote to lynch - 19/12/2010 09:31:47 PM 1104 Views
I think there's a consensus of Light=KiraKiller=bad - 19/12/2010 09:51:21 PM 944 Views
That is the impression that I got *NM* - 19/12/2010 09:59:20 PM 657 Views
I really don't see Light Yagami as being obviously evil - 19/12/2010 11:24:42 PM 1040 Views
Well, this has been discussed - 19/12/2010 11:50:53 PM 1048 Views
He's the textbook definition of a serial killer. - 20/12/2010 02:19:45 AM 1003 Views
Eh... I guess not. - 20/12/2010 01:36:57 AM 1121 Views
Well that might be me... - 16/12/2010 09:45:03 PM 1102 Views
Re: Well that might be me... - 16/12/2010 10:12:00 PM 1031 Views
Could be me... - 16/12/2010 10:10:01 PM 1154 Views
Their bell tower? *NM* - 16/12/2010 11:21:00 PM 639 Views
Oh sure - 16/12/2010 11:53:09 PM 1124 Views
... so that was more depressing that I was anticipating. - 18/12/2010 03:09:52 AM 1088 Views
Re: Isaac - 20/12/2010 12:22:16 AM 1137 Views
Apparently it was a good guess - 20/12/2010 04:55:32 AM 1045 Views
Update - 20/12/2010 04:50:48 AM 1093 Views
Well, the claim is certainly believable - 20/12/2010 05:01:38 AM 1064 Views
Hahaha awesome. - 20/12/2010 05:31:05 AM 1098 Views
Re: Hahaha awesome. - 20/12/2010 05:59:42 AM 1140 Views
Fair enough. OK, gang, what should we do? - 20/12/2010 02:26:45 PM 1072 Views
Here's wat I'll do: - 20/12/2010 05:01:00 PM 1184 Views
Oy. - 20/12/2010 05:20:38 PM 1100 Views
F-T made it pretty clear that Light was eeeeevil. - 20/12/2010 09:48:57 PM 1005 Views
I think the real issue is, should we try to control him, or should we just lynch him? - 20/12/2010 11:55:09 PM 1000 Views
Well, the obvious choice is not to kill anyone Tonight - 21/12/2010 03:01:57 AM 1074 Views
Yeah, I won't be killing anyone Tonight. - 21/12/2010 04:29:53 AM 1046 Views
Something about this situation bugs the heck out of me - 21/12/2010 04:49:11 AM 1095 Views
Improbable how? *NM* - 21/12/2010 05:01:00 AM 646 Views
The pieces don't add up - 21/12/2010 06:00:07 AM 1127 Views
That's definitely possible. Yeah, I'm keeping my vote up. - 21/12/2010 02:25:28 PM 1264 Views
Well, Death Note is pretty popular. - 21/12/2010 04:59:27 PM 1152 Views
Is it? - 21/12/2010 06:06:16 PM 1079 Views
Actually, yeah. It's th only legit anime I hear about besides DBZ and Gundam and that stuff. - 21/12/2010 07:03:09 PM 1047 Views
I had assumed we were a biased group, it fits - 22/12/2010 03:01:43 AM 1001 Views
Re: I had assumed we were a biased group, it fits - 22/12/2010 04:54:37 AM 1092 Views
No, you're definitely overthinking it - 21/12/2010 08:50:45 PM 1206 Views
That's not what I meant - 22/12/2010 01:44:45 AM 1145 Views
Actually, my initial post description does fit Light "like a glove" - 22/12/2010 05:40:00 AM 1117 Views
I just glanced at the wiki- it's pretty dense, without explaining much - 22/12/2010 05:43:30 AM 1059 Views
Re: I just glanced at the wiki- it's pretty dense, without explaining much - 22/12/2010 05:56:17 AM 987 Views
Re: I just glanced at the wiki- it's pretty dense, without explaining much - 22/12/2010 03:02:26 PM 1169 Views
Honestly, I could very easily believe an Operative=Town claim. - 22/12/2010 04:00:07 PM 1056 Views
I should have said "Operative if he intended to rule, instead of kill himself" - 22/12/2010 04:46:58 PM 1195 Views
Even then... - 22/12/2010 05:31:14 PM 1068 Views
RBIRL - 21/12/2010 01:27:03 AM 1133 Views
Just popping in. - 21/12/2010 07:47:18 AM 1074 Views
Vote for HI! - 21/12/2010 02:25:56 PM 980 Views
Re: Vote for HI! - 21/12/2010 09:21:11 PM 1097 Views
I think HI made a minor error when F-T guessed he was Light, and the "limited use vig" is an attempt - 22/12/2010 01:22:51 AM 1073 Views
What error is that? - 22/12/2010 05:54:33 AM 1094 Views
Re: What error is that? - 22/12/2010 02:47:38 PM 1065 Views
That does make sense. I'll have to think about this. *NM* - 22/12/2010 08:55:01 AM 531 Views
I'm not sure if Light=evil - 21/12/2010 09:31:47 PM 1102 Views
Haemophilus influenzae: What are your restrictions? - 22/12/2010 04:06:20 PM 1153 Views
BIRL - 22/12/2010 05:35:23 PM 1160 Views
RBIRL - 22/12/2010 09:08:26 PM 1024 Views
I'm back! - 22/12/2010 11:26:56 PM 1053 Views
This is pretty much how I feel. - 23/12/2010 04:24:34 PM 1045 Views
RBIRL - 23/12/2010 07:58:34 AM 1221 Views
Christmas is the perfect time of the year... for MURDER *NM* - 23/12/2010 02:29:29 PM 654 Views
RBIRL for the rest of the year - 23/12/2010 10:02:15 PM 1101 Views
Probably no surprise but semi-RBIRL - 24/12/2010 02:28:13 PM 1125 Views
Heck, I might as well say it too. RBIRL. - 24/12/2010 03:18:15 PM 1193 Views
Blooooood - 28/12/2010 06:58:25 PM 1082 Views
Blood for the Blood God! - 28/12/2010 08:09:31 PM 1100 Views
All right: Vote: Haemophilus influenzae - 28/12/2010 10:00:05 PM 1009 Views
I suppose this really is the only realistic option - 28/12/2010 10:15:43 PM 1076 Views
Vote: Haemophilus influenzae - 29/12/2010 12:08:17 AM 1187 Views
Re: Vote: Haemophilus influenzae - 29/12/2010 12:49:51 AM 1038 Views
Vote: Haemophilus influenzae - 29/12/2010 09:06:36 AM 1037 Views
If I had a hammer... - 29/12/2010 07:43:54 PM 1106 Views
twilight - 29/12/2010 10:29:14 PM 1328 Views
HAH - 30/12/2010 03:46:01 AM 1243 Views
Sorry for lack of posting - 02/01/2011 06:30:33 AM 2171 Views
Lame. Come back soon! *NM* - 02/01/2011 05:50:29 PM 652 Views
Good luck with your stuff! - 03/01/2011 05:31:49 AM 1112 Views
Like beet and DK said, good luck and come back soon! *NM* - 03/01/2011 09:06:06 PM 558 Views

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