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The problem with a no lynch beetnemesis Send a noteboard - 16/12/2010 03:16:31 PM
Is that it essentially gives the Mafia (or whatever, Yami, I guess) a free kill.

And then, on Day 2, we're more or less back where we started. Except then we go "Ooooh, Stephen's dead, why would someone do that?" When in reality, the Mafia's target was probably just as random as anyone else.


There's a whole mathematical justification for never no-lynching as well- I think Fanatic-Templar posted it a few games back?- but I don't remember the specifics.

Suffice to say, no-lynching is usually considered a Bad Idea- heck, suggesting it is what got Isaac lynched last game.
I amuse myself.
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Re: I just glanced at the wiki- it's pretty dense, without explaining much - 22/12/2010 05:56:17 AM 994 Views
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Blood for the Blood God! - 28/12/2010 08:09:31 PM 1109 Views
All right: Vote: Haemophilus influenzae - 28/12/2010 10:00:05 PM 1022 Views
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