I'm surprised by the DK choice, not a great one actually. All three of the people we sent on the treasure hunt voted for the BA lynch, so in their shoes I'd have wanted to preserve the 'treasure hunters replaced by ninjas' option, whacking one of them, especially when suspicion today will fall most strongly on those who voted for BA, not a great tactical move, IMO, maybe they had some stronger info. Whichever the case, on average you're best served when scummer by whacking someone who didn't vote for a botched lynch. Of course, as voters to be NK'd go, she's a fairly logic choice.
Whichever, with two of our most active posters dead and another modding, a slightly more reckless play style seems appropriate, if for no better reason then to ensure a decent posting frequency, so...
We had 7 people vote for BA, one of whom is now dead, leaving in order of vote:
Isaac
Fox and Ravens
Beetnemesis
Yunalesca
Darth Katie
?
Ranagrande
I'm gonna say up front, I don't think Beet's a scummer, he chimed in about the 'no ninja' thing very quickly, and that's a pretty serious risk, no guarantees, Beet's definitely the gambling sort, but I'm dubious, dubious enough not to make him def-town but he's not neutral IMO, semi-prob-town at least. To that, I have information from a reliable source that indicates Yunalesca is not our killer, and statistically considerably less likely to be scum than random, though it can't be completely ruled out.
3 Scum
3/10 to be scum, 2 in 3 not to be chosen attacker, 6/30 or 20% she's scum, 20% vs 30% flat random, from know-self-as-town that's actually 3/9 for 6/27 or 22.2% vs 33.3%
2 Scum
2/10 to be scum, 1 in 2 not to be chosen attacker, 2/20 or 10% she's scum vs 20% random player, again, modified 2/9x1/2 11/1% vs 22.2%.
Its actually a little lower than that though, in terms of odds, amongst other factors Yunalesca has shown a preference for being the knife hand, whereas I for instance deliberately avoid it especially on early night for fear of tracking, RBing etc. Anyway, may be scum, but not DK's killer. So I'm moving her to my semi-prob-town category, which may as well be prob-town since my next tier, def town, is typically reserved for dead players only.
Now, we definitely shouldn't work under the assumption that our non-voters are all pure white snow, we've had bad lynches go off where the majority of scummers didn't vote for the person, and its pretty normal for one scummer to get nervous about a vote they expect might be held against them or just not to be around, if you look at our list of non-voters, its got a big measure of fairly inactive players, and scum can be less active too. Whichever, I think we should assume at least one, possibly two or three, of our voters for BA are scum, and I think the shortlist would be Fox, ranagrande, and ? To be honest my two big suspects going into last night were Yuna and DK, I still feel strongly that the scummers wouldn't have let that treasure hunt go unsupervised if they could, and ? was nominated by BA, a confirmed townie. Of course Yuna was nominated by herself but randomly selected by myself, and BA might have picked a DF unknowingly, in either case they might have lucked out, so to speak, and not needed to draw suspicion openly backing someone. ? was realistically as suspicious as Yuna, since he might be scum and just lucked out by drawing an eye and a vote from BA. Its also possible they didn't send anyone. Needless to say I was suspicious as hell when I noticed all three of our treasure hunters voted in a line, 4th, 5th, and 6th, for BA's lynch, once that went bad, so I was favoring the 'converted to ninjas' hypothesis as a decent probability, obviously that premise is disproven by DK's death.
So that's my thoughts for the moment.
Whichever, with two of our most active posters dead and another modding, a slightly more reckless play style seems appropriate, if for no better reason then to ensure a decent posting frequency, so...
We had 7 people vote for BA, one of whom is now dead, leaving in order of vote:
Isaac
Fox and Ravens
Beetnemesis
Yunalesca
?
Ranagrande
I'm gonna say up front, I don't think Beet's a scummer, he chimed in about the 'no ninja' thing very quickly, and that's a pretty serious risk, no guarantees, Beet's definitely the gambling sort, but I'm dubious, dubious enough not to make him def-town but he's not neutral IMO, semi-prob-town at least. To that, I have information from a reliable source that indicates Yunalesca is not our killer, and statistically considerably less likely to be scum than random, though it can't be completely ruled out.
3 Scum
3/10 to be scum, 2 in 3 not to be chosen attacker, 6/30 or 20% she's scum, 20% vs 30% flat random, from know-self-as-town that's actually 3/9 for 6/27 or 22.2% vs 33.3%
2 Scum
2/10 to be scum, 1 in 2 not to be chosen attacker, 2/20 or 10% she's scum vs 20% random player, again, modified 2/9x1/2 11/1% vs 22.2%.
Its actually a little lower than that though, in terms of odds, amongst other factors Yunalesca has shown a preference for being the knife hand, whereas I for instance deliberately avoid it especially on early night for fear of tracking, RBing etc. Anyway, may be scum, but not DK's killer. So I'm moving her to my semi-prob-town category, which may as well be prob-town since my next tier, def town, is typically reserved for dead players only.
Now, we definitely shouldn't work under the assumption that our non-voters are all pure white snow, we've had bad lynches go off where the majority of scummers didn't vote for the person, and its pretty normal for one scummer to get nervous about a vote they expect might be held against them or just not to be around, if you look at our list of non-voters, its got a big measure of fairly inactive players, and scum can be less active too. Whichever, I think we should assume at least one, possibly two or three, of our voters for BA are scum, and I think the shortlist would be Fox, ranagrande, and ? To be honest my two big suspects going into last night were Yuna and DK, I still feel strongly that the scummers wouldn't have let that treasure hunt go unsupervised if they could, and ? was nominated by BA, a confirmed townie. Of course Yuna was nominated by herself but randomly selected by myself, and BA might have picked a DF unknowingly, in either case they might have lucked out, so to speak, and not needed to draw suspicion openly backing someone. ? was realistically as suspicious as Yuna, since he might be scum and just lucked out by drawing an eye and a vote from BA. Its also possible they didn't send anyone. Needless to say I was suspicious as hell when I noticed all three of our treasure hunters voted in a line, 4th, 5th, and 6th, for BA's lynch, once that went bad, so I was favoring the 'converted to ninjas' hypothesis as a decent probability, obviously that premise is disproven by DK's death.
So that's my thoughts for the moment.
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King of Cairhien 20-7-2
Chancellor of the Landsraad, Archduke of Is'Mod
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King of Cairhien 20-7-2
Chancellor of the Landsraad, Archduke of Is'Mod
RAFO Mafia 18 - Day 2: Mystery on the High Seas
15/09/2010 05:39:03 AM
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ARRRRRRR *NM*
15/09/2010 06:44:52 AM
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Omg. This reply cracked me up so bad.
15/09/2010 12:34:38 PM
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Arrrgggh
15/09/2010 12:50:18 PM
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Re: Arrrgggh
15/09/2010 01:29:15 PM
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plus...
15/09/2010 01:50:44 PM
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Voting Record
18/09/2010 05:41:39 AM
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Moving along
15/09/2010 02:47:27 PM
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knife hand? *confused* *NM*
15/09/2010 10:25:01 PM
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Re: RAFO Mafia 18 - Day 2: Mystery on the High Seas
15/09/2010 04:06:10 PM
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Re: RAFO Mafia 18 - Day 2: Mystery on the High Seas
15/09/2010 06:23:19 PM
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my current suspects
15/09/2010 09:52:52 PM
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How is that a tactic? *NM*
15/09/2010 10:21:04 PM
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Day 2 EVENT: In High Spirits
18/09/2010 04:53:47 AM
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I think 'Aye' is probably the best choice, Vote: Aye
18/09/2010 05:24:24 AM
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I can
18/09/2010 05:35:29 AM
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Nay
18/09/2010 05:25:57 AM
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Any debate? Anyone in favor of Nay?
18/09/2010 07:53:56 AM
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We need to come up with a plan
19/09/2010 05:59:26 AM
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Well, here's who voted for BA:
19/09/2010 08:04:26 AM
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? is the logical target
19/09/2010 08:56:53 AM
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Re: ? is the logical target
20/09/2010 02:10:49 AM
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Re: ? is the logical target
20/09/2010 03:14:22 AM
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Who are your candidates for lynch?
20/09/2010 03:58:04 AM
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I don't have any. Especially after my fail of a push for BA
20/09/2010 04:35:23 AM
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I think I have a plan
20/09/2010 06:33:29 AM
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...erm...
20/09/2010 07:37:16 AM
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Crypto tricks
20/09/2010 10:13:23 AM
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Some thoughts...
19/09/2010 01:21:56 PM
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this is the first time its happened while i've been playing atleast
19/09/2010 04:52:13 PM
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It looks like we're proceeding with the plan so a few reminders
20/09/2010 06:35:21 PM
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Hmm. I don't think I did this exactly how you wanted, with the key and whatnot.
20/09/2010 06:41:22 PM
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Re: Hmm. I don't think I did this exactly how you wanted, with the key and whatnot.
20/09/2010 07:13:22 PM
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Re: Hmm. I don't think I did this exactly how you wanted, with the key and whatnot.
21/09/2010 12:04:49 AM
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So if I'm understanding this properly...
21/09/2010 01:38:34 AM
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That is correct. *NM*
21/09/2010 01:44:37 AM
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im still not clear on the key thing.
21/09/2010 04:38:53 PM
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Okay
21/09/2010 05:28:23 PM
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Re: Okay
21/09/2010 07:43:39 PM
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You wanted to hint at it, not say it..... *NM*
21/09/2010 07:46:10 PM
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horsefeathers
21/09/2010 07:55:44 PM
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It's alright. So long as no one actually tries to decode it. :/ *NM*
21/09/2010 08:00:17 PM
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I'm glad I'm dead so I don't have to bother with this. *NM*
21/09/2010 11:28:46 PM
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List of Codes and Roleclaims (Table)
21/09/2010 11:25:37 AM
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So I shouldn't code my Role now? *NM*
21/09/2010 01:45:10 PM
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A couple Questions
21/09/2010 08:53:29 PM
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On this whole decryption thing though...
21/09/2010 10:28:57 PM
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Any idea when we are gonna start decrypting?
22/09/2010 01:44:39 AM
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Wait why does it say and between my codes?
22/09/2010 11:00:51 PM
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what now?
22/09/2010 09:27:09 PM
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Napoleon needs to roleclaim now
22/09/2010 09:51:56 PM
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Arg... REALLY sorry people.
23/09/2010 08:16:00 PM
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You definitely do not get that in eveeeery game
23/09/2010 09:14:46 PM
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Why is that so suspicious?
23/09/2010 10:02:23 PM
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It's suspicious because it's not true
23/09/2010 10:17:43 PM
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Cause people tend to accentuate the negative, they seek to form patterns, and they like exaggerating *NM*
24/09/2010 05:07:13 AM
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Re: You definitely do not get that in eveeeery game
23/09/2010 10:27:31 PM
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Everyone can start decrypting now
23/09/2010 09:01:24 PM
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Ok, I'll go ahead and do mine too
23/09/2010 11:16:29 PM
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I was too lazy to verify beyond oxygen and flourine
24/09/2010 12:45:09 AM
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Re: I was too lazy to verify beyond oxygen and flourine
24/09/2010 02:44:11 AM
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eh, what the heck
24/09/2010 03:04:29 AM
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Just out of curiosity, why do you say townie? RB could just as easily be scum, if not more so. *NM*
24/09/2010 05:13:50 AM
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Just out of curiosity, why do you say townie? RB could just as easily be scum, if not more so. *NM*
24/09/2010 05:13:51 AM
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other factors make me think otherwise
24/09/2010 06:07:31 AM
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right, mine
24/09/2010 10:37:45 AM
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Re: right, mine
24/09/2010 10:43:26 AM
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EPWOP
24/09/2010 10:55:42 AM
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Re: EPWOP
24/09/2010 12:47:47 PM
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Okay, that squares
24/09/2010 01:14:31 PM
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Re: Okay, that squares
24/09/2010 01:22:42 PM
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I was lazy... I used the INTERNET
24/09/2010 06:04:26 AM
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Re: I was lazy... I used the INTERNET
24/09/2010 02:29:29 PM
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While we're waiting on White Flame
25/09/2010 08:59:09 PM
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Re: While we're waiting on White Flame
25/09/2010 10:47:47 PM
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EBWOP
25/09/2010 10:48:31 PM
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It's probably also worth noting
25/09/2010 11:17:19 PM
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Re: While we're waiting on White Flame
26/09/2010 02:47:14 AM
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Vote: Fox and Ravens
26/09/2010 03:15:38 AM
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Eh. The RC's always mess me up
26/09/2010 03:43:54 AM
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Yes, they can be tricky
26/09/2010 04:00:52 AM
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Re: Yes, they can be tricky
26/09/2010 04:33:40 AM
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not to mention...
26/09/2010 04:55:30 AM
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Vote: Fox and Ravens *NM*
26/09/2010 02:31:43 PM
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I mean can we just lynch him without going through the procedure if he'll just give up?
26/09/2010 07:33:38 PM
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Somebody want to hammer?
26/09/2010 09:02:17 PM
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