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Re: I have to say I'm a little... disappointed White Flame of Tar Valon Send a noteboard - 26/08/2010 06:43:44 AM
The town killed scum left and right, got lots of successful protects, and still ended up losing. We started with 18 players...

possible scum:
4 mafiaA
3 mafiaB/cult
1 miller/SK (better count this twice, since it's 2 lynches to get rid of the one)

That's 50% of the players as possible scum... way too much for the town imho.

Then lets look at the accuracy rate of killing scum..

We lynched 2 mafia and a serial killer vs. 3 townies (and 1 was Yuna asking to be lynched... don't count this one against us seriously - Kylia and I were totally against it the first time; most of the people voting her were *gasp* scum) - that's 50-60% success lynching scum which is pretty good for the town. In addition to that, we got 2 successful night kills in our favor with no losses. No night kill night 1. The town played this one about as well as it could.

In fact, the town played this too well. It got punished for actually lynching the mafiaA since really what the town needed to win was for the mafiaA to kill mafiaB (the town couldn't realistically hope to win by lynching or night killing EVERY bad guy - there were way too many). So when the town focused down on mafiaA... they lost.

If White Flame really was a cop/tracker role, then honestly that group is really overpowered. A cultist cop that basically confirms the other cult members is virtually unbeatable.

I think White Flame should have been lynched after Darth Katie, but honestly Yuna made a completely useless roleclaim and character claim (Dark One) that pretty much sealed the win for the cult/mafiaB, not for the first time in the game either lol (town got punished pretty badly for lynching her 3 times). Getting White Flame lynched wouldn't have been easy, but it probably could have been done, assuming Kylia would actually have voted for someone lol

yeah, I'm a little upset cuz town got the shaft here :)


yea I was glad that you all decided the Dark One was a greater threat than a person with robotic implants. And if you really thought I should've been lynched next you shouldn't have bothered protecting me :P But I'm glad you did, so thanks :)
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RAFO Mafia 17: The End - 26/08/2010 04:59:22 AM 685 Views
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Were you guys a cult? *NM* - 26/08/2010 05:35:05 AM 339 Views
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I think this is my first game with a genuine Cult. - 26/08/2010 06:11:26 AM 558 Views
Keep in mind they tend to get axed - 26/08/2010 06:13:34 AM 589 Views
That should have happened, but not the case here. *NM* - 26/08/2010 06:15:26 AM 345 Views
See Fox's night 2 message - 26/08/2010 06:37:57 AM 535 Views
Re: See Fox's night 2 message - 26/08/2010 06:41:02 AM 587 Views
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Yeah, that's part of the reason I suspected you, in fact. - 26/08/2010 06:16:31 AM 578 Views
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You know what's really weird? - 26/08/2010 06:31:01 AM 614 Views
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For the record... - 26/08/2010 06:48:40 AM 542 Views
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Re: For the record... - 26/08/2010 07:34:46 AM 581 Views
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That's partly my fault. - 26/08/2010 07:48:02 AM 685 Views
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There was a tie? That's pretty interesting *NM* - 27/08/2010 03:11:09 AM 629 Views
No, a stalemate - 27/08/2010 05:01:13 AM 596 Views
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I put this in the wrong place *NM* - 26/08/2010 06:09:26 AM 310 Views
Incidentally, getting Shai'tan as a pro-town role is seriously rough luck. - 26/08/2010 06:10:49 AM 690 Views
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Re: I have to say I'm a little... disappointed - 26/08/2010 06:43:44 AM 607 Views
you were still a tracker - 26/08/2010 06:50:39 AM 614 Views
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The Borg Queen role... - 26/08/2010 06:13:52 AM 550 Views
Not quite - 26/08/2010 06:24:11 AM 556 Views
Night 2 messages - 26/08/2010 06:16:15 AM 576 Views
So, did everyone's target randomly change, here? *NM* - 26/08/2010 07:08:33 AM 388 Views
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Re: So, did everyone's target randomly change, here? - 26/08/2010 07:25:58 AM 508 Views
Night 3 messages - 26/08/2010 06:29:47 AM 695 Views
Wait, if they actually could have recuited me... - 26/08/2010 06:46:40 AM 602 Views
They couldn't have - 26/08/2010 06:55:03 AM 653 Views
Night 4 messages - 26/08/2010 06:36:16 AM 791 Views
heh, beet/Kylia actually did end up confirming White Flame as a tracker. - 26/08/2010 07:09:36 AM 588 Views
So ranagrande, it was just completely random which ghost she saw? - 26/08/2010 07:15:39 AM 750 Views
Yep - 26/08/2010 07:28:57 AM 558 Views
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It was a great idea *NM* - 26/08/2010 07:37:22 AM 255 Views
Lol @ your answer. *NM* - 26/08/2010 05:50:55 PM 249 Views
Night 5 messages - 26/08/2010 06:44:51 AM 507 Views
That Barbie role is pretty cool - 26/08/2010 07:03:19 AM 552 Views
I'm glad you asked me that - 26/08/2010 07:22:46 AM 632 Views
Quite alot of options *NM* - 26/08/2010 01:05:14 PM 436 Views
Haha I want those Barbies *NM* - 26/08/2010 05:54:04 PM 234 Views
Speaking of weird... - 26/08/2010 06:08:30 AM 583 Views
I'm curious who else got asked night questions by Kylia - 26/08/2010 06:29:44 AM 630 Views
I think the reincarnations proved unfortunate for her role. - 26/08/2010 06:34:50 AM 600 Views
She didn't get to choose who she questioned - 26/08/2010 06:40:14 AM 491 Views
kinda, yeah. *NM* - 26/08/2010 10:44:02 AM 265 Views
Yay! - 26/08/2010 06:39:24 AM 542 Views
Everything went wrong when Darth_Katie roleclaimed - 26/08/2010 06:45:10 AM 598 Views
Yeah, that was probably a pretty dumb move on my part - 26/08/2010 05:56:48 PM 543 Views
Well, overall I have to say - 26/08/2010 07:19:51 AM 591 Views
Good stuff, rana! - 26/08/2010 07:38:11 AM 458 Views
Nah, it was the regular Lie Detector role from Mafiascum - 26/08/2010 07:43:15 AM 581 Views
Oh, and I'm still smug about calling Talic as Captain Morgan - 26/08/2010 07:39:18 AM 574 Views
Yeah, that got me totally blindsided. - 26/08/2010 05:58:01 PM 518 Views
Good game, everybody!! - 26/08/2010 05:58:50 PM 531 Views
woe, my roles were nasty *NM* - 26/08/2010 09:03:35 PM 288 Views
I think being lynched three times in one game is a record. - 26/08/2010 09:19:36 PM 551 Views
yeah - 26/08/2010 11:35:05 PM 489 Views
Yup. Here you go! - 27/08/2010 12:18:52 AM 704 Views
huzza! - 27/08/2010 12:31:13 AM 546 Views
And all three were similar in that she was basically asking to be lynched - 27/08/2010 01:26:18 AM 565 Views
I guess I technically won.... - 27/08/2010 06:27:54 AM 434 Views

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