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A simple torch can't fry a person completely to ashes *NM* BlackAdder Send a noteboard - 02/08/2010 10:31:05 PM
a) A fire-wielder could be pretty much anyone from anywhere with a torch.

b) Just a couple of additions I need to make.

First, I'll try to piece together what's known about actions Night 3:

BlackAdder killed Talic (killed in the same manner as Isaac - bite marks; BlackAdder was a vig)

Talic roleblocked Kylia Skydancer (party invite sounds like a Captain Morgan sort of thing - plus Kylia said she was roleblocked and Talic was a roleblocker)

Beetnemesis was killed by ??? (burned to ashes, so look for a fire-wielder)

BlackAdder was killed by ??? (headshot, cleanly cauterized, suggests a laser of some sort)

So with that in mind... I think the NIPZ either killed both beet and BlackAdder (due to some sort of event that gave them a revenge kill for losing their Godfather Isaac the previous night), or we have a limited shot vig who killed someone, or... something else. In any case, it does seem that the two kills were done separately (i.e., not by the same person).

Also, going back to the flavor, the mafia group is called Ninja Pirate Zombie Robot Monkey. Is is a coincidence that Isaac was from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Talic was essentially a glorified pirate? Perhaps it's a stretch, but it could pay off to keep our eyes peeled for any further clues.

So, let's try to look for the killers

The Living

Amys/Fanatic-Templar 2.0

MODERN REAL EARTH: No

MAJOR CHARACTER OR SETTING: No

GENDER: Male

CONSISTENT: Yes

HEROIC DO-GOODER: Yes

Won't give settings

OK, so not much is known about this guy. He won't give us settings so he'll always be a possible culprit in pretty much any scenario.

Blaine/Kronin 2.0

MODERN REAL EARTH: No

MAJOR CHARACTER OR SETTING: Yes

GENDER: Female

CONSISTENT: Yes

HEROIC DO-GOODER: Yes

Enderverse

Legend of Zelda

Star Trek

Discworld

Haloverse


Yea, so Star Trek and Halo both use laser guns. Definitely could have killed BlackAdder

Darth_Katie

MODERN REAL EARTH: UNC

MAJOR CHARACTER OR SETTING: No

GENDER: Male

CONSISTENT: Yes

HEROIC DO-GOODER: Debatable

Looney Toons

Dexter's Lab

Barbie

The Simpsons

South Park

Not really any lasers here unless she is Mecha Streisand from South Park (a Robot). Dexter's lab has robots, right? The others don't really have anything incriminating at this point.

I'm sure someone in the Simpsons knows has to burn people. Same for South Park.

Fox and Ravens

MODERN REAL EARTH: No, changed from UNC

MAJOR CHARACTER OR SETTING: UNC

GENDER: Male

CONSISTENT:

HEROIC DO-GOODER:

Star Trek

Sonic

A Song of Ice and Fire

Spaceballs

Willy Wonka-verse - Consistentfirmed he wans't from there


He also claimed Star Trek, so he's a possible killer of BlackAdder. Sonic has Scratch, Grounder and Robotnik (evil Robots). He's on my suspicion list anyway. Don't really see any fire wielders, although I don't know about aSoIaF

Also, Spaceballs has lasers. Very much has lasers.

Hobo/Yunalesca 2.0

MODERN REAL EARTH: Yes

MAJOR CHARACTER OR SETTING: Yes

GENDER: Male

CONSISTENT:

HEROIC DO-GOODER:

Shakespeare plays

Wheel of Time

Enders Series

Robin Hood

Greek Myths

WoT has people who channel fireballs and Greek Myths have all sorts of things, but it seems that Yuna gained control of Hobo's role at daybreak (so couldn't have killed anyone overnight)

Kylia Skydancer

MODERN REAL EARTH: Yes

MAJOR CHARACTER OR SETTING: UNC

GENDER: Male

CONSISTENT: YEs

HEROIC DO-GOODER:

Buffyverse

The Sixth Sense

Captain Planet

Sherlock Holmes

The DC Universe


Claimed to be roleblocked. I don't see any reason to doubt that at this point, I'm going to assume she wasn't the killer and that she is also not a NIPZ (no sense in roleblocking your teammate)

No sense in being too trusting. Don't actually know the DCverse, but pretty sure there are people there who could laser/fire (heat vision, for one). Also, Cpt. Planet - FIRE.

Napoleon62/BlackAdder 2.0

MODERN REAL EARTH: No

MAJOR CHARACTER OR SETTING: Yes

GENDER: Female

CONSISTENT: Yes

HEROIC DO-GOODER:

Mario-land

Narnia: Lucy Pevensie - Doctor

Wheel of Time

Portal-land

Winnie the Pooh-land

Yea, no comment from me

White Flame of Tar Valon

MODERN REAL EARTH: Yes

MAJOR CHARACTER OR SETTING: Yes

GENDER: Male

CONSISTENT: Yes

HEROIC DO-GOODER: Yes

American Idol

Les Miserables

Phantom of the Opera

Smallville

Chicago


None of these has flame wielders or laser guns.

None have flamewielders except for anyone with a torch. Smallville could have lil' Supes with laser vision, or basically teenage anyone from DCverse (I think).

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In the end, I have to say, Blaine/Kronin 2.0 looks pretty suspicious (Halo/Star Trek), as does Fox and Ravens (Star Trek, Sonic Robots), based just on this character info and the info rana gave us about methods of killing. Fanatic-Templar is also a possibility. He could be the fire-wielder who killed beet last night, by process of elimination. I suppose Darth_Katie could have done it as well (Mecha Streisand from South Park), but it seems less likely, and honestly, if she really is Babs, I think rana would have written something other than just "cauterized headshot" as the manner in which the victim died :D

Now, the final piece of the puzzle is looking at how these people interacted with Isaac and Talic on the previous days, how they voted, etc. That could take a while...
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RAFO Mafia 17, Day 4: Here We Go Again - 17/07/2010 09:39:09 PM 2225 Views
Vote Table - 17/07/2010 09:40:41 PM 1084 Views
Napoleon isn't inactive? - 18/07/2010 04:21:24 AM 893 Views
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Hypocop Table - 17/07/2010 09:52:26 PM 998 Views
I found DK to be guilty *NM* - 17/07/2010 09:52:45 PM 691 Views
I found Kronin al'Sulc to be innocent. *NM* - 18/07/2010 04:22:34 AM 552 Views
Kylia - Dirty *NM* - 18/07/2010 04:35:04 AM 641 Views
BlackAdder - innocent *NM* - 18/07/2010 04:45:20 AM 739 Views
I found White Flame to be innocent. *NM* - 18/07/2010 05:26:30 AM 540 Views
Don't care if I'm dead- I TOTALLY called Talic. - 18/07/2010 01:55:01 AM 1022 Views
Maybe you'll be able to replace... someone - 18/07/2010 02:45:53 AM 1008 Views
Nah, Watcher gives me extra info... - 18/07/2010 04:10:10 AM 865 Views
That was the first thing I noticed, too . *NM* - 18/07/2010 04:23:30 AM 673 Views
Hahaha. yes. You did call that one very well. *NM* - 18/07/2010 04:34:22 AM 564 Views
Yeah, that's pretty ridiculous. Way to be! *NM* - 18/07/2010 04:43:41 AM 654 Views
Wow.... great call. *NM* - 18/07/2010 05:25:53 AM 518 Views
Yeah I call shenanigans; also the Langoliers need to stop eating all the scum >.< *NM* - 18/07/2010 12:37:25 PM 845 Views
*resurrects* - 22/07/2010 01:03:01 AM 950 Views
so what are we doing today? - 18/07/2010 09:21:49 PM 871 Views
Alrighty, what are we going to do now? - 18/07/2010 09:31:44 PM 1121 Views
Faction, not fraction. - 18/07/2010 09:59:12 PM 1109 Views
Whoops ... I always almost do that and then fix it at the last minute. - 19/07/2010 09:38:55 PM 950 Views
Re: Whoops ... I always almost do that and then fix it at the last minute. - 20/07/2010 05:11:24 AM 1053 Views
I meant that there's a possibility he was bluffing. - 20/07/2010 01:05:48 PM 1053 Views
Understandable now that you explained yourself...but it still irks me. *NM* - 21/07/2010 05:52:30 AM 487 Views
Beet's hypocops - 19/07/2010 05:05:53 AM 959 Views
Re: Beet's hypocops - 19/07/2010 08:53:09 AM 1023 Views
As much as I love the word "moot" - 19/07/2010 09:35:00 PM 1014 Views
RBIRL - 21/07/2010 06:15:35 PM 942 Views
what now? - 22/07/2010 02:25:48 AM 961 Views
I agree - 22/07/2010 05:21:39 AM 1088 Views
Okay, first of all - 23/07/2010 07:50:23 AM 937 Views
In theory it is necessary to actually post to properly play the game - 23/07/2010 12:00:08 AM 859 Views
i think everyone lost their zeal when the primary poster died - 23/07/2010 12:24:32 AM 990 Views
LOL, DK's still alive - 23/07/2010 12:53:21 AM 1010 Views
VICTORY IS MINE!!!!! - 23/07/2010 01:03:03 AM 1034 Views
Whoa, go me! - 23/07/2010 03:46:59 AM 990 Views
Sorry - 23/07/2010 12:31:46 AM 950 Views
Maybe we should mass claim? - 23/07/2010 01:11:50 AM 973 Views
Meh, why not. - 23/07/2010 03:58:14 AM 898 Views
Re: Meh, why not. - 23/07/2010 04:45:03 AM 951 Views
Shrugs. - 23/07/2010 07:21:51 AM 1047 Views
disagree - 23/07/2010 10:03:48 AM 944 Views
Alright. - 23/07/2010 03:03:16 PM 991 Views
Re: Alright. - 23/07/2010 07:52:18 PM 965 Views
Fanatic-Templar has been elected Chair. *NM* - 23/07/2010 11:04:21 AM 633 Views
Okay so... - 24/07/2010 04:58:31 AM 865 Views
Re: Okay so... - 24/07/2010 03:47:58 PM 993 Views
Yeah, sounds like it. - 24/07/2010 03:51:46 PM 914 Views
I think so too... - 24/07/2010 05:34:24 PM 935 Views
I guess Talic being Captain Morgan that makes sense. - 24/07/2010 07:48:38 PM 923 Views
Re: I guess Talic being Captain Morgan that makes sense. - 24/07/2010 10:37:31 PM 950 Views
Huh, that seems a little counterintuitive. - 24/07/2010 10:43:27 PM 890 Views
Re: Huh, that seems a little counterintuitive. - 25/07/2010 12:50:44 AM 849 Views
True. - 25/07/2010 06:16:18 AM 874 Views
Yuna was your own doing. - 25/07/2010 06:27:33 AM 797 Views
Did you have a say about whether or not to go in or was it decided by the mod? *NM* - 25/07/2010 05:10:28 AM 598 Views
Mod decided. *NM* - 25/07/2010 06:39:32 AM 544 Views
So I'm back. - 25/07/2010 05:30:42 AM 950 Views
Re: massclaiming - 25/07/2010 06:22:37 AM 964 Views
Re: So I'm back. - 25/07/2010 06:38:51 AM 854 Views
Yes, that's the point. - 25/07/2010 07:08:26 AM 888 Views
Re: Yes, that's the point. - 25/07/2010 07:21:07 AM 895 Views
And you still didn't support lynching her then, is my point. - 25/07/2010 06:10:32 PM 832 Views
Well, since I haven't taken part in a single vote thus far,can you really hold that against me? *NM* - 27/07/2010 09:28:14 AM 568 Views
Yes. *NM* - 27/07/2010 01:04:10 PM 609 Views
*NM* - 28/07/2010 11:24:37 PM 576 Views
Yuna1 with WF and old-you.... guess we have a Bus Driver. *NM* - 25/07/2010 06:48:47 AM 577 Views
Re: Yuna1 with WF and old-you.... guess we have a Bus Driver. - 25/07/2010 01:51:27 PM 952 Views
Re: Yuna1 with WF and old-you.... guess we have a Bus Driver. - 25/07/2010 03:27:14 PM 988 Views
yep, thanks - 25/07/2010 07:31:44 PM 874 Views
Re: So I'm back. - 25/07/2010 01:50:54 PM 910 Views
I don't have a problem claiming. - 25/07/2010 05:34:38 PM 936 Views
what? - 25/07/2010 05:54:56 PM 792 Views
That would actually be dead character knowledge, I think. - 25/07/2010 06:13:15 PM 880 Views
i didn't know that - 25/07/2010 06:33:24 PM 713 Views
Just shush about it, hope you don't get modkilled. - 25/07/2010 07:32:56 PM 803 Views
I will if Ranagrande asks me to. - 26/07/2010 02:23:18 AM 732 Views
Yea, that was as much a message to you as a reminder to him. - 26/07/2010 02:25:56 AM 939 Views
It's all good - 26/07/2010 03:49:35 AM 878 Views
Re: i didn't know that - 25/07/2010 07:33:40 PM 943 Views
Yeah, but you could have been lying. - 26/07/2010 02:22:37 AM 935 Views
I felt like it was past time I got back into this game. - 29/07/2010 12:48:57 AM 950 Views
Re: I felt like it was past time I got back into this game. - 29/07/2010 02:15:31 AM 920 Views
One detail... - 29/07/2010 02:43:45 AM 895 Views
Re: One detail... - 29/07/2010 03:14:38 AM 981 Views
This is one of the reasons I like my laptop ... - 29/07/2010 03:20:50 AM 1037 Views
Theoretically - 29/07/2010 03:22:35 AM 960 Views
Generally speaking, yes. - 29/07/2010 07:46:34 PM 892 Views
Re: I felt like it was past time I got back into this game. - 29/07/2010 04:40:55 AM 1029 Views
I would just like to note. - 29/07/2010 04:43:44 AM 956 Views
Re: I would just like to note. - 29/07/2010 04:56:21 AM 874 Views
- 29/07/2010 02:36:49 PM 875 Views
Except Yesterday? - 29/07/2010 06:31:22 PM 815 Views
*nods* - 29/07/2010 08:11:35 PM 815 Views
Re: *nods* - 30/07/2010 03:38:36 AM 862 Views
Even if Yuna was telling the truth, she claimed to be Jack Kerr. - 30/07/2010 03:45:25 AM 922 Views
Re: Even if Yuna was telling the truth, she claimed to be Jack Kerr. - 30/07/2010 04:51:56 AM 837 Views
Doesn't matter what she claimed to be. - 30/07/2010 04:08:55 PM 1013 Views
TBF, my char is dead now, so shut up about it *NM* - 30/07/2010 05:15:25 PM 621 Views
No offense to you. - 30/07/2010 09:45:21 PM 950 Views
Re: No offense to you. - 31/07/2010 12:12:59 AM 991 Views
Shh. I get confused a lot. - 31/07/2010 05:25:37 AM 949 Views
Sorry, Yuna, but it is kinda necessary. *NM* - 31/07/2010 12:10:05 AM 535 Views
The truth she claimed was to have lied . - 30/07/2010 07:25:02 PM 833 Views
Re: I would just like to note. - 29/07/2010 05:40:48 AM 967 Views
RBIRL thurs-sunday - 29/07/2010 02:17:59 PM 776 Views
The character formerly played by Napoleon62 now belongs to BlackAdder. *NM* - 01/08/2010 04:14:38 AM 502 Views
Sweet life friends. *NM* - 01/08/2010 07:31:38 AM 517 Views
I'm here, will hopefully make a real post soon *NM* - 02/08/2010 12:37:15 AM 525 Views
So...one of you guys who found my analysis of DK suspicious... - 01/08/2010 07:59:33 AM 894 Views
Since I am currently cursed with insomnia, I think I will give it a try. - 01/08/2010 10:24:09 AM 962 Views
Well it was kinda the idea to vote her out the second time... - 04/08/2010 03:01:38 AM 1008 Views
Heh. Divya was not meant to kill. *NM* - 04/08/2010 04:22:13 AM 445 Views
Fair enough, fair enough. *NM* - 04/08/2010 07:59:15 PM 551 Views
The character info compilation, which surprisingly hasn't been reposted - 02/08/2010 01:05:26 AM 1087 Views
Hmm. I'll actually have to correct this. - 02/08/2010 03:17:39 AM 956 Views
lol - 02/08/2010 11:47:42 AM 979 Views
OK, time to look at a few things - 02/08/2010 03:58:41 AM 944 Views
A couple of notes. - 02/08/2010 02:24:55 PM 911 Views
Re: A couple of notes. - 02/08/2010 04:32:08 PM 827 Views
Not quite anyone. - 03/08/2010 03:23:59 AM 739 Views
A simple torch can't fry a person completely to ashes *NM* - 02/08/2010 10:31:05 PM 901 Views
But killing them then putting them over a fire would. - 03/08/2010 03:23:25 AM 774 Views
I do suspect that there's a fire-themed killer. - 03/08/2010 03:58:54 AM 801 Views
Re: I do suspect that there's a fire-themed killer. - 03/08/2010 05:08:21 PM 926 Views
Yeah, but they used it all in a one-shot at the Battle of Blackwater Bay . - 03/08/2010 07:23:46 PM 939 Views
Re: Yeah, but they used it all in a one-shot at the Battle of Blackwater Bay . - 04/08/2010 02:49:50 PM 912 Views
its a song of ice and fire - 04/08/2010 04:34:19 PM 975 Views
Re: its a song of ice and fire - 05/08/2010 01:08:47 AM 938 Views
yeah but Wheeler was a jerk. *NM* - 04/08/2010 03:09:04 AM 577 Views
You should read more carefully. - 06/08/2010 04:13:45 AM 897 Views
Hrmm. All this dropping out is killing our game. - 06/08/2010 05:11:41 AM 782 Views
Re: Hrmm. All this faffing is killing the game - 06/08/2010 09:06:23 AM 921 Views
Faff faff faff - 06/08/2010 02:21:37 PM 916 Views
yeah, once was enough for me. *NM* - 04/08/2010 03:03:25 AM 630 Views
So, let's up the pressure a bit. - 06/08/2010 06:37:22 AM 881 Views
Re: So, let's up the pressure a bit. - 06/08/2010 04:49:16 PM 943 Views
Re: So, let's up the pressure a bit. - 06/08/2010 05:55:27 PM 1200 Views
I'm not generally a believer in forcing roleclaims... - 06/08/2010 06:33:30 PM 887 Views
Re: I'm not generally a believer in forcing roleclaims... - 06/08/2010 10:02:12 PM 912 Views
So, she's one vote from death. - 07/08/2010 12:34:37 AM 867 Views
Re: So, she's one vote from death. - 07/08/2010 03:32:13 AM 884 Views
hey ho, summats happening - 06/08/2010 11:05:34 PM 988 Views
Uh, I think you just lynched her - 07/08/2010 03:59:19 AM 825 Views
EBWOP: Maybe not - 07/08/2010 04:01:54 AM 999 Views
Re: EBWOP: Maybe not - 07/08/2010 06:37:10 AM 1019 Views
EBWOP - 07/08/2010 06:39:48 AM 948 Views
FT has the Chair vote, so it is L-1 *NM* - 07/08/2010 09:59:22 AM 607 Views
Ahh Gotcha. Forgot about that. Thanks. *NM* - 07/08/2010 05:09:28 PM 486 Views
Re: EBWOP: Maybe not - 07/08/2010 02:25:12 PM 816 Views
Re: EBWOP: Maybe not - 07/08/2010 10:30:05 AM 894 Views
She already claimed to be the road runner from Looney Tunes - 07/08/2010 03:54:09 AM 974 Views
Re: She already claimed to be the road runner from Looney Tunes - 07/08/2010 05:18:58 AM 795 Views
Hmph, I thought it would be obvious. - 07/08/2010 03:27:15 PM 868 Views
That's a reasonable interest. - 07/08/2010 03:35:01 PM 882 Views
Re: That's a reasonable interest. - 07/08/2010 05:12:30 PM 961 Views
Also, the roadrunner hurts the coyote quite a bit. - 07/08/2010 05:13:56 PM 914 Views
True, but - 07/08/2010 05:29:31 PM 873 Views
Hey, all he wants is a meal! - 07/08/2010 06:20:19 PM 769 Views
Yea, but only with the traps Wil E set. *NM* - 07/08/2010 07:02:27 PM 426 Views
Well, there's your roleclaim. - 07/08/2010 06:21:17 PM 828 Views
I think you can stop with the voting now. You've done what you wanted and it worked. - 07/08/2010 06:44:29 PM 928 Views
Meh, I made a promise. - 07/08/2010 07:52:17 PM 839 Views
Re: Well, there's your roleclaim. - 07/08/2010 07:00:36 PM 974 Views
Or she could have investigated him. Just laying out all the options. - 07/08/2010 07:04:16 PM 857 Views
That or White Flame is lying now. - 07/08/2010 07:55:00 PM 834 Views
Deal. *NM* - 07/08/2010 09:00:40 PM 396 Views
He's lying or mistaken or something. - 07/08/2010 09:17:51 PM 918 Views
Re: He's lying or mistaken or something. - 07/08/2010 09:31:20 PM 876 Views
In your hypocop on Day 3, you claimed 'BlackAdder - guilty' - 07/08/2010 09:32:55 PM 962 Views
Re: In your hypocop on Day 3, you claimed 'BlackAdder - guilty' - 07/08/2010 09:35:07 PM 966 Views
eh, I guess that makes sense - 07/08/2010 09:44:50 PM 798 Views
Hey! What'd I do? - 07/08/2010 05:42:29 AM 903 Views
I agree...what? *NM* - 07/08/2010 06:31:04 AM 392 Views
You scammed some retard out of a Phione *NM* - 07/08/2010 04:45:22 PM 761 Views
Nah, the retard willingly gave it to me. Even better *NM* - 07/08/2010 06:58:45 PM 626 Views
Re: Hey! What'd I do? - 07/08/2010 05:12:04 PM 930 Views
What's to comment on, really? - 07/08/2010 06:59:10 PM 982 Views
Also, did you get the chance to do a Night Action last night? - 07/08/2010 07:01:49 PM 953 Views
I jumped too quickly. If it's not too late - Unvote *NM* - 08/08/2010 03:06:35 AM 600 Views
I think it's too late - 08/08/2010 06:43:30 AM 818 Views
Well, we'll find out soon enough I suppose. - 08/08/2010 03:16:07 PM 763 Views
Well, if you didn't lie, you should be alright anyway. *NM* - 08/08/2010 05:15:32 PM 461 Views
Taking one for the team, right? - 08/08/2010 06:28:37 PM 840 Views
EBWOP: someone needs to page ranagrande, too *NM* - 08/08/2010 06:29:46 PM 485 Views
*sschtz* Paging Dr. Ranagrande ... you're wanted in surgery *scchtxz* - 09/08/2010 02:47:15 AM 824 Views
Righto, on my way! *NM* - 09/08/2010 03:02:14 AM 573 Views
Darth_Katie has been lynched - 09/08/2010 03:07:32 AM 998 Views
I believe we are past 125 hours -- any update on when this will start back up? *NM* - 13/08/2010 06:39:40 AM 602 Views
So, do we assume Ranagrande has vanished and just move on to the next game? *NM* - 14/08/2010 08:05:27 PM 478 Views
Are we allowed to sub the mod? *NM* - 14/08/2010 08:21:28 PM 597 Views
It is possible - 15/08/2010 12:41:27 AM 873 Views
Give it another day, stalemate isn't preferable - 14/08/2010 08:46:02 PM 906 Views
Sure. - 14/08/2010 09:06:44 PM 957 Views
Re: Sure. - 14/08/2010 09:30:15 PM 930 Views
go post in the RP then - 14/08/2010 09:42:55 PM 894 Views
You are aware I am dead there too? - 14/08/2010 09:45:49 PM 742 Views
*swears into a paper bag* - 14/08/2010 09:49:55 PM 842 Views
I would be willing to try a replacement mod idea before calling it quits - 15/08/2010 12:48:50 AM 909 Views
While you're waiting, I've posted a draft of the rules update - 15/08/2010 01:23:21 AM 980 Views
*reads rules* - 15/08/2010 04:24:41 AM 1051 Views
Yeah, that's great. - 15/08/2010 06:41:43 AM 945 Views
I'm back. - 16/08/2010 09:16:54 PM 913 Views
Good to see - hope everything is OK *NM* - 16/08/2010 10:50:21 PM 518 Views

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