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Let's try focusing on Yuna again, see if we can make this make sense Isaac Send a noteboard - 04/07/2010 12:08:48 AM
For the moment, I'm just going to assume she's town, and that she's telling us the truth on everything. Needless to say, I really doubt this, but let's try it and run through some options

She says she is not the vig, but attacked Napoleon, she also says she'd not a Heroic Do Gooder but is from Modern Earth and DC-verse.

Option #1 - Paranoid Gun Owner - Attacks anyone who targets them at night. Probelm here is that if Napoleon is a doc and targeted her, she would have attacked and killed him, but he isn't dead and he says he docced himself, not her.

Option #2 - Bomb - This person kills anyone who NKs them, but same logic, how could Napoleon defend himself if he targeted her?

Option #3 - Super Saint - Kills a hammer vote on them, he never voted for her let alone hammered her.

That's the 3 town killing role, Army veteran and PGO being identical, and she says she's not a vig. Now, she could have had a one-shot kill, but I don't see her expending that on night 1. We also have the elite bodyguard, who can kill or has a chance to kill, anyone who targets their ward. A paranoid version of this is possible, maybe a cross of the PGO and the EBG, attacking anyone who targets their ward, so that if a doc targeted X, and our paranoid guard targeted X, the paranoid guard attacks them. Again though, this breaks down if Napoleon is telling the truth, and targeted himself.

That's really it for town-based roles that can attack someone. I for one think something about this whole situation stinks, I'm sure we all do, but I suspect it makes sense too, as some sort of plot, and it's either really good or really bad but looked really good to whoever was behind it. Neither Napoleon or Yunalesca have spoken up recently, and that's pretty weird. Why hasn't Napoleon voted for Yunalesca? I mean, I could see him wanting to hold his vote for more info, but he hasn't even talked about it.

Weird options? I can think of plenty but most have huge gaping flaws in them... they may still have been done, plotting as a scummer is much harder than it might look like, plans go awry because the loophole in your plot turns out to be big enough to drive a truck through, see game 4 "Cor Amon claims mason" for an example, or Shaido half-doc, or Gher accuses cult ally, and so on. So it could be something really dumb. Even as a jester role, this is a very bad way to get yourself lynched. I can think of a dozen ways to get oneself lynched without ever raising the specter of the jester, sure wouldn't claim DC-comics with the joker coming to mind so easily either.

Pretty much no matter how you cut it though, Yuna is anti-town, and she's not answering questions, so waiting is a waste of time. Worst case scenario we kill off a town role who's acting really anti-town, most likely she's an anti-town or scum role though.
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RAFO Mafia 17, Day 2: Stayin' Alive - 26/06/2010 07:39:13 AM 1759 Views
Vote Table - 26/06/2010 07:40:39 AM 757 Views
Ah ah ah ah stayin' aliiiiiiiiiiiiive - 26/06/2010 03:48:30 PM 741 Views
Re: Ah ah ah ah stayin' aliiiiiiiiiiiiive - 26/06/2010 04:20:48 PM 740 Views
I was poisoned. - 26/06/2010 04:33:50 PM 795 Views
Yeah, that's interesting. - 26/06/2010 06:04:45 PM 709 Views
I as well was attacked - 26/06/2010 09:00:28 PM 824 Views
A beast? That's interesting - 26/06/2010 10:08:33 PM 751 Views
If we can identify it from a particular series, we might be able to nab the attacker. *NM* - 26/06/2010 10:14:45 PM 416 Views
Alright here is a repost of yesterday's info - 26/06/2010 10:22:58 PM 787 Views
Alright, Here comes some analysis out the wazoo. - 27/06/2010 06:35:59 PM 781 Views
I'll just say one thing - 28/06/2010 12:01:32 AM 682 Views
Well, I should pay attention. - 28/06/2010 04:48:18 AM 702 Views
Yes, it was a beast - 26/06/2010 11:19:13 PM 730 Views
Was it a werewolf? - 26/06/2010 11:30:27 PM 773 Views
No evidence to suggest it was... - 26/06/2010 11:44:35 PM 772 Views
Re: No evidence to suggest it was... - 26/06/2010 11:49:00 PM 778 Views
I know how I was saved - 27/06/2010 12:02:39 AM 821 Views
Re: I know how I was saved - 27/06/2010 12:21:59 AM 682 Views
A few ideas - 27/06/2010 12:36:45 AM 742 Views
Re: A few ideas - 27/06/2010 01:06:11 AM 703 Views
Hmm, why is that? - 27/06/2010 02:23:31 AM 767 Views
That BP is usually town? - 27/06/2010 03:13:11 AM 700 Views
Re: I know how I was saved - 27/06/2010 05:12:32 AM 755 Views
Re: I know how I was saved - 27/06/2010 05:30:29 AM 624 Views
So, I guess Kronin/Blaine should provide their info now to the questions from yesterday - 26/06/2010 05:05:17 PM 704 Views
Alright, questions. - 26/06/2010 06:04:13 PM 767 Views
You forgot HDG *NM* - 26/06/2010 11:43:40 PM 407 Views
Which is.... *NM* - 27/06/2010 12:53:22 AM 449 Views
Heroic Do Gooder *NM* - 27/06/2010 12:56:21 AM 441 Views
Yes *NM* - 27/06/2010 03:01:59 PM 411 Views
Sorry guys, but life is suddenly way busy. - 26/06/2010 09:08:19 PM 691 Views
We'll miss you - 27/06/2010 03:06:27 PM 652 Views
Going back to yesterday - 26/06/2010 10:16:23 PM 713 Views
I am still in fact suspicious of Isaac - 26/06/2010 11:21:58 PM 737 Views
damn - 26/06/2010 11:33:59 PM 793 Views
Yeah, I think he should divulge. *NM* - 27/06/2010 04:11:13 AM 386 Views
EBWOP - Elaboration. - 27/06/2010 04:12:44 AM 774 Views
FINE. FINE. FINE - 27/06/2010 12:27:33 PM 738 Views
Whyyyyyyyyyy - 27/06/2010 05:34:05 PM 693 Views
This is pretty much what I expected... - 27/06/2010 08:29:43 PM 698 Views
I'm inclined to believe his claim - 27/06/2010 11:47:29 PM 775 Views
Since no one seems to have listened to my dying shouts. - 27/06/2010 01:03:10 AM 730 Views
I hadn't really thought of that - 27/06/2010 01:31:01 AM 762 Views
Re: I hadn't really thought of that - 27/06/2010 02:08:58 AM 773 Views
Re: I hadn't really thought of that - 27/06/2010 02:45:35 AM 697 Views
That's right! You're alive again! DUDE, I am so annoyed at you! - 27/06/2010 07:22:20 AM 673 Views
Short post, with elaboration to come later. - 27/06/2010 03:00:43 PM 725 Views
Okay, elaboration time. - 27/06/2010 06:19:49 PM 722 Views
Hmm, that is a pretty bold accusation - 27/06/2010 11:55:23 PM 665 Views
Re: Okay, elaboration time. - 28/06/2010 02:39:54 AM 660 Views
Now, what I want to know. - 28/06/2010 04:47:17 AM 664 Views
Your basically wildly speculating with an assumption of guilt - 28/06/2010 06:00:53 AM 668 Views
You're not seeing my point. - 28/06/2010 05:46:59 PM 577 Views
Re: You're not seeing my point. - 28/06/2010 06:39:05 PM 701 Views
Okay, fair enough. I guess onto other points for now. - 28/06/2010 07:28:02 PM 659 Views
Then let's return to Artsapat for now - 28/06/2010 08:19:21 PM 656 Views
So, where'd the night kill go? - 28/06/2010 10:01:00 PM 618 Views
That's the question, a cult is one possibility for one of them - 29/06/2010 05:46:12 AM 701 Views
Re: That's the question, a cult is one possibility for one of them - 29/06/2010 06:16:58 AM 667 Views
Re: That's the question, a cult is one possibility for one of them - 29/06/2010 06:33:22 AM 704 Views
Re: That's the question, a cult is one possibility for one of them - 29/06/2010 06:57:08 AM 666 Views
Hypocop Table! - 27/06/2010 05:37:07 PM 709 Views
I found F-T to be Innocent *NM* - 27/06/2010 05:37:19 PM 417 Views
i found Amys to be Guilty *NM* - 27/06/2010 06:20:15 PM 440 Views
I found myself to be roleblocked, so... yeah. *NM* - 27/06/2010 08:31:37 PM 446 Views
F-T; Innocent *NM* - 27/06/2010 11:57:15 PM 382 Views
Beetnemesis innocent *NM* - 28/06/2010 03:29:18 AM 334 Views
Isaac- innocent *NM* - 28/06/2010 04:19:00 AM 404 Views
Napoleon - Innocent *NM* - 28/06/2010 04:47:01 AM 367 Views
I found I was dead. *NM* - 28/06/2010 04:47:39 AM 378 Views
Are you saying you didn't get Blaine's role until dawn? *NM* - 28/06/2010 11:59:31 AM 407 Views
Yunalesca - innocent *NM* - 28/06/2010 01:28:38 PM 391 Views
Fox - Innocent *NM* - 28/06/2010 07:44:54 PM 293 Views
Isaac is guilty... GUILTY I SAY!! Also; - 01/07/2010 05:53:17 PM 651 Views
Staying Alive indeed - 28/06/2010 12:31:47 PM 710 Views
dawn/dusk - no *NM* - 28/06/2010 03:35:59 PM 379 Views
Re: Staying Alive indeed - 28/06/2010 04:33:30 PM 664 Views
Regarding the dawn/dusk message, I must object very strongly - 28/06/2010 04:41:26 PM 656 Views
Re: Regarding the dawn/dusk message, I must object very strongly - 28/06/2010 05:26:45 PM 680 Views
I thought so, it's why I wanted to check with others *NM* - 28/06/2010 06:25:16 PM 450 Views
Well, first off, congratulations. - 28/06/2010 05:43:47 PM 659 Views
Congratulations! How wonderful - 28/06/2010 08:42:51 PM 659 Views
Congrats to you, and I shall also Vote Chair: Darth_Katie - 28/06/2010 10:15:32 PM 641 Views
Two things: - 28/06/2010 10:34:31 PM 702 Views
For what it's worth, there was a third fraction in that game though. - 28/06/2010 10:45:08 PM 714 Views
Oh, well according to him - 28/06/2010 10:55:05 PM 672 Views
Also - 28/06/2010 11:07:34 PM 603 Views
We could be dealing with just a Cult. - 28/06/2010 11:42:19 PM 680 Views
Yeah, but if we got lucky... game over on Day 1 *NM* - 29/06/2010 12:25:54 AM 398 Views
Yunalesca - innocent *NM* - 28/06/2010 12:33:03 PM 319 Views
Voting record. - 28/06/2010 10:03:33 PM 729 Views
Hey, isn't this Katie's job? *NM* - 28/06/2010 10:18:10 PM 411 Views
Hey, volunteer yourself. - 28/06/2010 10:47:22 PM 621 Views
I'll probably spew one out again - 29/06/2010 05:49:54 AM 627 Views
you guys are so slow on the uptake you know *NM* - 28/06/2010 10:43:58 PM 433 Views
What? *NM* - 28/06/2010 10:49:47 PM 377 Views
And you've only realized that now? - 28/06/2010 10:56:57 PM 626 Views
read my posts carefully - 28/06/2010 11:01:45 PM 634 Views
... - 28/06/2010 11:49:07 PM 705 Views
Okay, let's do that - 29/06/2010 06:10:28 AM 699 Views
Don't suppose you checked her posts for spoilers, did you? - 29/06/2010 07:22:13 AM 685 Views
Yes, nothing - 29/06/2010 08:20:33 AM 730 Views
*laughs helplessly* - 01/07/2010 09:21:48 AM 744 Views
I'm a bit interested in hearing from the quiet ones - 29/06/2010 07:31:32 AM 726 Views
Re: I'm a bit interested in hearing from the quiet ones - 29/06/2010 04:27:18 PM 650 Views
i confessed to being the beast *NM* - 29/06/2010 04:36:40 PM 425 Views
Well, that... doesn't sound smart. - 29/06/2010 04:48:22 PM 743 Views
I mean, this is just an obvious way to get yourself lynched. - 29/06/2010 04:48:49 PM 706 Views
I'm guessing she got bored with the game and wants us to lynch her *NM* - 29/06/2010 06:26:22 PM 441 Views
Actually I'm betting on a Buffy claim right now *NM* - 29/06/2010 06:44:54 PM 418 Views
I say we don't lynch - 29/06/2010 07:11:50 PM 710 Views
We should probably just wait for her claim *NM* - 29/06/2010 07:18:13 PM 415 Views
Oh, come on - 29/06/2010 04:50:09 PM 653 Views
Yep, now is probably a good time to Role Claim. *NM* - 29/06/2010 09:01:01 PM 431 Views
I think a few people might have intially thought that - 29/06/2010 10:25:06 PM 703 Views
Sorry. I've been so busy. - 30/06/2010 12:54:17 AM 651 Views
Re: Sorry. I've been so busy. - 30/06/2010 12:57:48 AM 757 Views
Re: Sorry. I've been so busy. - 30/06/2010 01:23:06 AM 674 Views
Then please repeat it for me. - 30/06/2010 02:08:28 AM 637 Views
I always thought it was - 30/06/2010 02:49:57 AM 673 Views
Re: I always thought it was - 30/06/2010 03:46:22 AM 659 Views
Yes, that makes more sense. - 30/06/2010 04:14:50 AM 683 Views
That whole thing would have worked if Yuna didn't have psychopathic flavortext... - 30/06/2010 04:15:01 AM 617 Views
It still worked out pretty well, as I recall. - 30/06/2010 04:30:18 AM 603 Views
I've never heard of the rule and would actually think it anti-town for the vig not to kill - 30/06/2010 04:34:10 AM 636 Views
Because it isn't like a lynch at all. - 30/06/2010 06:30:04 AM 661 Views
There's a second half to that too - 30/06/2010 07:12:37 AM 659 Views
Re: There's a second half to that too - 30/06/2010 07:21:09 PM 688 Views
the quiet ones... - 01/07/2010 09:58:52 AM 682 Views
Some advice - 01/07/2010 12:40:13 PM 616 Views
You're probably right... - 01/07/2010 01:41:13 PM 661 Views
This has definitely been going slower than normal. Hopefully it will pick up soon. - 02/07/2010 08:57:26 PM 692 Views
Always a good thing. *NM* - 03/07/2010 04:38:34 AM 330 Views
Re: the quiet ones... - 02/07/2010 08:21:48 AM 636 Views
Re: the quiet ones... - 03/07/2010 04:39:26 AM 629 Views
Does this damn thing work yet? >.< *NM* - 29/06/2010 07:36:31 PM 417 Views
Yes? *NM* - 29/06/2010 07:40:11 PM 282 Views
So, Yuna. What's your game? - 30/06/2010 04:16:28 AM 685 Views
If she's a vig, I'll be slightly disappointed - 30/06/2010 04:37:10 AM 660 Views
*laughs* - 30/06/2010 10:30:38 AM 670 Views
I don't know what kind of game you're playing. - 30/06/2010 01:11:02 PM 676 Views
Darn, I had my finger crossed for Oz, Seth Green's werewolf character in Buffy - 30/06/2010 01:46:01 PM 686 Views
Let me just say this: If she is a Jester... - 30/06/2010 04:10:23 PM 640 Views
I agree - 30/06/2010 05:20:18 PM 624 Views
It seems win-win either way - 30/06/2010 06:29:41 PM 669 Views
Screw the Jesters. - 30/06/2010 07:22:59 PM 719 Views
It's a defense against getting lynched only if we don't have any other ways of getting rid of them - 30/06/2010 09:12:09 PM 714 Views
Too much room for error, plus it leaves it open for future claims - 30/06/2010 10:04:56 PM 712 Views
I almost want to say let's just ignore her... except she apparently has a NK. Lynch her, I guess - 01/07/2010 04:10:05 AM 669 Views
Re: I almost want to say let's just ignore her... except she apparently has a NK. Lynch her, I guess - 01/07/2010 05:43:01 AM 711 Views
Jester's are awful. They ruin the game. - 01/07/2010 06:26:39 AM 715 Views
That apostrophe is driving me insane *NM* - 02/07/2010 01:51:23 AM 390 Views
I didn't want to say anything. Too bad you can't edit posts . *NM* - 02/07/2010 01:56:57 AM 276 Views
I'll allow you to edit that one if you wish to. - 02/07/2010 04:00:05 AM 665 Views
Sigh... check the history of that post for part 2 of the comedy of errors *NM* - 02/07/2010 04:12:33 AM 367 Views
Hah! Awesome *NM* - 02/07/2010 04:14:33 AM 383 Views
*giggle* *NM* - 01/07/2010 09:43:25 AM 383 Views
unfortunatly im RBIRL - 01/07/2010 10:11:22 AM 626 Views
See? It's stuff like this - 01/07/2010 04:10:41 PM 592 Views
It's the Independence Day weekend in the US, too, so - 01/07/2010 04:55:44 PM 655 Views
EBWOP: and also Artsapat! - 01/07/2010 04:57:39 PM 662 Views
I'm still here. Unfortunately... - 02/07/2010 08:30:01 AM 570 Views
It's Canada Day today! - 01/07/2010 05:44:52 PM 657 Views
any excuse for a party! *NM* - 01/07/2010 09:12:30 PM 411 Views
Testing... (Table) - 01/07/2010 05:18:38 PM 811 Views
Huzzah! - 01/07/2010 05:20:04 PM 630 Views
Anyone can do that? - 01/07/2010 05:26:48 PM 660 Views
No, guess not. - 01/07/2010 05:27:58 PM 673 Views
Re: Anyone can do that? - 01/07/2010 05:34:20 PM 678 Views
Why can you do that? - 01/07/2010 05:36:28 PM 731 Views
Re: Why can you do that? - 01/07/2010 05:42:37 PM 663 Views
hmm - 01/07/2010 05:28:35 PM 685 Views
Oh, you have to get a membership - 01/07/2010 05:36:46 PM 671 Views
Re: Oh, you have to get a membership - 01/07/2010 06:03:21 PM 796 Views
I am SO cheap. - 01/07/2010 06:42:15 PM 588 Views
I donated to the site - 02/07/2010 08:32:55 AM 640 Views
There, there. - 02/07/2010 08:39:06 PM 653 Views
This allows you to instantly defeat any moral Anakin. - 02/07/2010 09:16:13 PM 553 Views
Ah, OK - 01/07/2010 06:04:11 PM 673 Views
No luck with page anchors - 01/07/2010 06:23:44 PM 666 Views
And yeah, I will quit screwing around with it in the game - 01/07/2010 06:25:38 PM 701 Views
Darth_Katie has been elected Chair - 01/07/2010 06:07:37 PM 662 Views
Can I unvote if I want? - 01/07/2010 06:41:02 PM 592 Views
Yeah, it was advocate that couldn't undo and redo - 01/07/2010 06:44:43 PM 743 Views
So... why not just vote for Yuna and end the day? - 03/07/2010 05:56:18 AM 689 Views
I think we might've already? - 03/07/2010 06:38:55 AM 678 Views
I didn't miss them - 03/07/2010 08:14:15 AM 503 Views
You spelled her name wrong DK *NM* - 03/07/2010 11:53:02 AM 462 Views
I think you misspelled Yunalesca as Yunalesa - 03/07/2010 12:01:26 PM 737 Views
- 03/07/2010 04:21:54 PM 670 Views
Nah, I'm not that much of a stickler for spelling - 03/07/2010 05:35:16 PM 695 Views
.....? *NM* - 03/07/2010 05:50:14 PM 407 Views
Someone must have blocked her vote - 03/07/2010 07:19:50 PM 652 Views
Could be the other way 'round... - 03/07/2010 09:20:15 PM 655 Views
Re: Could be the other way 'round... - 03/07/2010 10:37:10 PM 705 Views
Just thinking aloud. - 03/07/2010 11:11:27 PM 660 Views
Understandable, I don't think this was a day action though - 03/07/2010 11:40:00 PM 616 Views
Re: Someone must have blocked her vote - 03/07/2010 10:27:52 PM 647 Views
Re: Someone must have blocked her vote - 03/07/2010 10:37:08 PM 852 Views
Re: - 03/07/2010 07:07:20 PM 645 Views
Maybe - 03/07/2010 07:19:55 PM 680 Views
Whatever happened happened between edits 5 and 6 on the vote table - 03/07/2010 07:28:33 PM 675 Views
That was actually a mistake my me - 03/07/2010 08:28:43 PM 682 Views
Let's try focusing on Yuna again, see if we can make this make sense - 04/07/2010 12:08:48 AM 675 Views
She's not answering cause she's an unstated RBIRL. - 04/07/2010 12:27:34 AM 739 Views
Re: She's not answering cause she's an unstated RBIRL. - 04/07/2010 12:58:52 AM 580 Views
Well, actually kill her. - 04/07/2010 01:04:41 AM 728 Views
Re: Well, actually kill her. - 04/07/2010 01:09:16 AM 617 Views
Yea! *NM* - 04/07/2010 01:12:06 AM 264 Views
Wait, we're still L-1 - 04/07/2010 01:12:55 AM 623 Views
That might do it - 04/07/2010 01:12:45 AM 683 Views
Anybody else maybe just want to vote to get this definitely over with? *NM* - 04/07/2010 01:33:44 AM 415 Views
I definitely don't want to vote her - 04/07/2010 04:10:07 AM 623 Views
Agreed... - 04/07/2010 05:30:31 AM 641 Views
Explain that - 04/07/2010 02:38:01 PM 710 Views
*cackles wickedly* - 06/07/2010 04:24:01 AM 649 Views
Napoleon's MIA, as far as I can tell. - 04/07/2010 02:31:38 AM 633 Views
Re: Napoleon's MIA, as far as I can tell. - 04/07/2010 03:34:55 AM 662 Views
Does it really matter if she wins? - 04/07/2010 03:39:43 AM 695 Views
Exactly *NM* - 04/07/2010 03:46:00 AM 477 Views
Re: Does it really matter if she wins? - 04/07/2010 03:57:19 AM 664 Views
It means we waste a lynch though. - 04/07/2010 04:11:50 AM 670 Views
You seem to be assuming that if she's a jester the DFs will kill her - 04/07/2010 04:20:13 AM 625 Views
I'm not assuming that - 04/07/2010 04:40:06 PM 705 Views
Ohhhhh I think I figured out what happened to me. - 04/07/2010 05:28:32 AM 719 Views
If it's a vote steal, rather than a block... - 04/07/2010 05:55:49 AM 612 Views
I think a steal makes more sense with the money transaction. - 04/07/2010 06:09:50 AM 617 Views
Don't know if that would work... - 04/07/2010 06:24:17 AM 643 Views
We could try, at least. - 04/07/2010 03:22:17 PM 656 Views
Oh sure, I agree. - 04/07/2010 06:04:20 PM 611 Views
It's Artsapat, has to be - 04/07/2010 02:32:16 PM 677 Views
I don't know anything about the Million Dollar Man - 04/07/2010 03:28:19 PM 640 Views
In one of my previous mafia games, I was a vote thief - 04/07/2010 04:50:18 PM 668 Views
That was my thought also, - 04/07/2010 06:07:49 PM 660 Views
Re: That was my thought also, - 04/07/2010 06:16:34 PM 662 Views
- 04/07/2010 06:41:56 PM 671 Views
Actually - 05/07/2010 03:46:42 PM 666 Views
I'm fairly content with that logic - 05/07/2010 04:37:41 PM 651 Views
So, once again Artsapat hammers someone who is probably town - 05/07/2010 04:40:40 PM 491 Views
So, once again Artsapat hammers someone who is probably town - 05/07/2010 04:40:40 PM 590 Views
EBWOP: Something is wrong with my mouse *NM* - 05/07/2010 04:43:03 PM 401 Views
Yeah, that sounds pretty legit. - 05/07/2010 04:54:34 PM 678 Views
Kinda overlooked the RB comment, also, you need to unvote - 05/07/2010 05:06:59 PM 715 Views
My thoughts re: Yunalesca - 04/07/2010 06:30:41 PM 678 Views
And since people love answering questions - 05/07/2010 12:33:42 AM 683 Views
Yunalesca has (almost) been lynched - 05/07/2010 06:39:39 PM 725 Views
Re: Yunalesca has (almost) been lynched - 05/07/2010 07:49:10 PM 678 Views

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