All right, let's do this, I have two people to accuse
Isaac Send a noteboard - 19/06/2010 08:36:14 PM
First to answer FT's question - simply put, I believe all characters are consistent with their roles and offered out the question to limit DF options for Fake RCs and to guard against the off side chance that mine was consistent but several other people were not. The question was deliberately phrased to give people every chance to answer yes unless there was a strong anomaly - no one has answered no, as suspected. It's real, primary purpose was to see who might be wary of giving an answer at all, and of course to get people talking again, but I'm a big believer in two birds with one stone.
Let's look at the CON question. Again, I believe everyone, including scum, can truthfully answer yes to this. We have received answers from everyone who has been present, except two, and all said yes. I exclude Talic, Blaine, and Amys as simply gone, and Hobo as having hit six days without posting, and Fox who is RBIRL
Of those who remain, all answered Yes to CON except:
Kronin - answered Kinda
Artsapat - has not answered
Note that Artsapat held off giving his reason not to answer until after everyone else who was around had said yes, except Kronin. He explains this as fear a role might be exposed, yet what roles would these be, to be blunt, I believe everyone is a Yes except possibly one oddball player and that therefore the risk is justified, as it is probably non-existent.
This draws the eye, and I will shortly explain how Kronin and Artsapat's settings are highly improbable, if not impossible, to match their other answers.
First however, let me point out the elections for chair. I noticed this afterward, when I was first going through the individual settings on Kronin, whose claim of female made line-by-line analysis of all major or recurring characters in his settings feasible. I had also noticed that Artsapat's settings did not match his MRE and MCS data in most cases, same as some of Kronin's. And that he was chair. It was an election by which he won 2-1 over DK, those two votes for Artsapat were from Kronin and himself.
Note: It is often common for DFs defending or supporting an ally to be leery of it, and often they rationalize 'But such open support would be so obvious no one would believe I'd do it' and do it anyway, yeah for WIFOMs. Trust me, DFs do do the obvious quite often. I, of all people, should know. Supporting someone who turns out dark is not proof of scumminess, but it certainly is not 'but I'd never be dumb enough to do it' proof of townies either.
Let's examine why a DF would want to answer with other than yes. Simply put, having given their settings they likely haven't picked a fake role yet, and probably did not check and see which fake settings offered characters they could claim in this regard. If you later claim to be X, and the only remaining character is is just not a logical X, you're in trouble if you said 'Yes' to consistency.
Remind me at some point to explain how any good trap in this game needs to incorporate Bait and Chaff. It's an important point that has some bearing on this matter but is fairly lengthy and I don't want to digress. There's also the advantage of 'Wad of Data' which is a bit different then chaff since it relies less on distraction and more on the target's desire to avoid great effort.
Let us look at there responses:
Kronin al'Sulc
MRE: UNC
MCS: UNC
GEN: Female
CON: Kinda
HDG:
Dr. McNinja
Barbieverse
Clue
Pokemon
American Idol
Artsapat
MRE: UNC
MCS: No
GEN: Male
CON:
HDG: No
Professional Wrestling
Monopoly, The Game
American Idol
GI Joe
The Apprentice
A quick note - both of them picked American Idol, a very strange pick for a reality TV show when both are claiming to be 'uncertain if this setting take place on modern real earth' these are obviously both blatantly fake - a reality TV show still on the air has to be the most ironclad example of Yes for MRE besides a news broadcast. However, the important thing is they both picked it, same as they both voted for Artsapat to be chair, and both refused to answer Yes to consistency... everyone else answered yes or is simply missing in the ether. Note also that both picked board games, clue and monopoly. They've both picked UNC for MRE, so let's look at the list minus Idol.
Kronin
Dr. McNinja
Barbieverse
Clue
Pokemon
Artsapat
Professional Wrestling
Monopoly, The Game
GI Joe
The Apprentice
First, Pro Wrestling is blatantly a MRE: Yes. Apprentice is another reality TV show, and there is only one person in monopoly - 'Rich Uncle Pennybags', who could definitely get a No for HDG, which he gave, but lacking any quality besides 'wealthy' would be an easy yes for consistency which was defined as 'no contradictory' and to which everyone was informed - especially Artsapat who asked after this before answering, was made explicitly clear he could answer "Yes" to whether Pennnybags was vanilla or roled.
This leaves only GI Joe - every character in that/show is either outright first-order do-gooder or dyed-in-the-wool cheesy bad guy, so a 'No' HDG answer means Cobra - personally I'm betting he's cobra commander. Regardless, he has only two scenarios for townie-dom remaining: 1) He is Rich Uncle Pennybags, or 2) He has answered the questions incorrectly and not corrected his answers even after others did with no repercussions and extensive dialogue and examples of what MRE answers were valid.
Regarding 1) Were this his real setting, odds strongly favor he'd have spent some time considering it and realized there was only on character, then answered 'board game character' instead, not wishing to have a single option for his real setting, he also answered settings after Kronin did. Furthermore, since it's clear - be he town or scum - that he drew 'inspiration' for his settings from Kronin, with American Idol and a board game, this seems an even stronger indicator the Pennybags option doesn't exist.
Regarding 2) This is possible, yet is grounds for lynch, as it amounts to strongly anti-town behavior by dint of leaving great room for scummers to maneuver out of settings traps, I obviously can't prove he didn't make a mistake or as a townie didn't lie or prevaricate.
Now to Kronin - again I draw your attention to the known acts of partnership, voting for Artsapat for Chair, and picking the same setting for him for American Idol and both having a board game in common. None of these are proof in of themselves, but keep them strongly in mind.
Kronin
Dr. McNinja
Barbieverse
Clue
Pokemon
Let's look at clue first. There are six characters in the game, three male, three female. Clue is basically to murder mystery games such as mafiascum what Lord of the Rings is to Fantasy, anyone could have done it anywhere with anything. So a 'kinda' for consistency is out, they could all hold any role or lack thereof without being inconsistent. OF the three chicks, White alone holds a vaguely mafiascum related possible role, she was originally patented as Nurse White, but this was dropped before the first edition of the game even came out.
Barbieverse - Barbie can do anything, she's literally the jack of all trades in that she comes as everything from a racecar driver, to police officer, to rocket scientist. She's also a MRE of 'Yes', because her setting is simply in default earth. This jack of all trades nature is more or less shared by other her sidekick, and to be blunt, I doubt ranagrande, a male, would be likely to be familiar with Barbie's various one-line dolls 'friends'.
Dr. Mcninja - there are only two female characters in this series, the doc's ninja-mother and an ape named Judy. This is not a really well known series, so I doubt it to begin with, but generally speaking I doubt ranagrande would have used very second tier characters from a little known webcomic. Although having read some of it, I must say it is rather humorous. It's also set in default modern earth, so it doesn't appear a great candidate for UNC, though maybe they skip around to weird places, I just read the first episode on his war with McDonalds. Ultimately, besides the character's mom and an ape being the only female characters, his MCS answer of UNC is ludicrous. "I am a secondary character in a little-known webcomic" is not a great candidate for Uncertain on a question asking if people came from a major setting or were major character.
Pokemon - The female protagonists from the game are Leaf, Kris, Lyra, May, and Dawn, plus Misty from the anime. I have difficulty seeing - from my own admittedly limited knowledge of this setting - why any of these would be likely to be 'kinda' on consistency?
Kronin explained his 'Kinda' on consistency by saying the flavor made it make sense, when queried regarding this, he did not respond and has not responded on the board and has not posted since then, going well beyond the 72 hour period, yet he can be shown to be not RBIRL, as Yunalesca, Kylia, and I can all testify he has been present on the RP Mafia Chat room during this period, as has Talic. He is a long-term and active player, a sudden disappearance just as a probing question was asked regarding an abnormal answer not associated to any RBIRL is highly suspicious.
To summarize, I feel both Kronin and Artsapat have exhibited other suspicious behavior I may detail later, but what we appear to have is two players with strong appearance of collusion - The Chair Vote and the similiar answers - as well very questionable if not outright false answers and an apparent strong desire not to answer certain questions. I'd advise everyone to check my data in case I made an error- there was lots of info, mistakes happen - but at this time I believe a strong case exists for both.
Unvote
FOS: Artsapat
FOS: Kronin
Let's look at the CON question. Again, I believe everyone, including scum, can truthfully answer yes to this. We have received answers from everyone who has been present, except two, and all said yes. I exclude Talic, Blaine, and Amys as simply gone, and Hobo as having hit six days without posting, and Fox who is RBIRL
Of those who remain, all answered Yes to CON except:
Kronin - answered Kinda
Artsapat - has not answered
Note that Artsapat held off giving his reason not to answer until after everyone else who was around had said yes, except Kronin. He explains this as fear a role might be exposed, yet what roles would these be, to be blunt, I believe everyone is a Yes except possibly one oddball player and that therefore the risk is justified, as it is probably non-existent.
This draws the eye, and I will shortly explain how Kronin and Artsapat's settings are highly improbable, if not impossible, to match their other answers.
First however, let me point out the elections for chair. I noticed this afterward, when I was first going through the individual settings on Kronin, whose claim of female made line-by-line analysis of all major or recurring characters in his settings feasible. I had also noticed that Artsapat's settings did not match his MRE and MCS data in most cases, same as some of Kronin's. And that he was chair. It was an election by which he won 2-1 over DK, those two votes for Artsapat were from Kronin and himself.
Note: It is often common for DFs defending or supporting an ally to be leery of it, and often they rationalize 'But such open support would be so obvious no one would believe I'd do it' and do it anyway, yeah for WIFOMs. Trust me, DFs do do the obvious quite often. I, of all people, should know. Supporting someone who turns out dark is not proof of scumminess, but it certainly is not 'but I'd never be dumb enough to do it' proof of townies either.
Let's examine why a DF would want to answer with other than yes. Simply put, having given their settings they likely haven't picked a fake role yet, and probably did not check and see which fake settings offered characters they could claim in this regard. If you later claim to be X, and the only remaining character is is just not a logical X, you're in trouble if you said 'Yes' to consistency.
Remind me at some point to explain how any good trap in this game needs to incorporate Bait and Chaff. It's an important point that has some bearing on this matter but is fairly lengthy and I don't want to digress. There's also the advantage of 'Wad of Data' which is a bit different then chaff since it relies less on distraction and more on the target's desire to avoid great effort.
Let us look at there responses:
Kronin al'Sulc
MRE: UNC
MCS: UNC
GEN: Female
CON: Kinda
HDG:
Dr. McNinja
Barbieverse
Clue
Pokemon
American Idol
Artsapat
MRE: UNC
MCS: No
GEN: Male
CON:
HDG: No
Professional Wrestling
Monopoly, The Game
American Idol
GI Joe
The Apprentice
A quick note - both of them picked American Idol, a very strange pick for a reality TV show when both are claiming to be 'uncertain if this setting take place on modern real earth' these are obviously both blatantly fake - a reality TV show still on the air has to be the most ironclad example of Yes for MRE besides a news broadcast. However, the important thing is they both picked it, same as they both voted for Artsapat to be chair, and both refused to answer Yes to consistency... everyone else answered yes or is simply missing in the ether. Note also that both picked board games, clue and monopoly. They've both picked UNC for MRE, so let's look at the list minus Idol.
Kronin
Dr. McNinja
Barbieverse
Clue
Pokemon
Artsapat
Professional Wrestling
Monopoly, The Game
GI Joe
The Apprentice
First, Pro Wrestling is blatantly a MRE: Yes. Apprentice is another reality TV show, and there is only one person in monopoly - 'Rich Uncle Pennybags', who could definitely get a No for HDG, which he gave, but lacking any quality besides 'wealthy' would be an easy yes for consistency which was defined as 'no contradictory' and to which everyone was informed - especially Artsapat who asked after this before answering, was made explicitly clear he could answer "Yes" to whether Pennnybags was vanilla or roled.
This leaves only GI Joe - every character in that/show is either outright first-order do-gooder or dyed-in-the-wool cheesy bad guy, so a 'No' HDG answer means Cobra - personally I'm betting he's cobra commander. Regardless, he has only two scenarios for townie-dom remaining: 1) He is Rich Uncle Pennybags, or 2) He has answered the questions incorrectly and not corrected his answers even after others did with no repercussions and extensive dialogue and examples of what MRE answers were valid.
Regarding 1) Were this his real setting, odds strongly favor he'd have spent some time considering it and realized there was only on character, then answered 'board game character' instead, not wishing to have a single option for his real setting, he also answered settings after Kronin did. Furthermore, since it's clear - be he town or scum - that he drew 'inspiration' for his settings from Kronin, with American Idol and a board game, this seems an even stronger indicator the Pennybags option doesn't exist.
Regarding 2) This is possible, yet is grounds for lynch, as it amounts to strongly anti-town behavior by dint of leaving great room for scummers to maneuver out of settings traps, I obviously can't prove he didn't make a mistake or as a townie didn't lie or prevaricate.
Now to Kronin - again I draw your attention to the known acts of partnership, voting for Artsapat for Chair, and picking the same setting for him for American Idol and both having a board game in common. None of these are proof in of themselves, but keep them strongly in mind.
Kronin
Dr. McNinja
Barbieverse
Clue
Pokemon
Let's look at clue first. There are six characters in the game, three male, three female. Clue is basically to murder mystery games such as mafiascum what Lord of the Rings is to Fantasy, anyone could have done it anywhere with anything. So a 'kinda' for consistency is out, they could all hold any role or lack thereof without being inconsistent. OF the three chicks, White alone holds a vaguely mafiascum related possible role, she was originally patented as Nurse White, but this was dropped before the first edition of the game even came out.
Barbieverse - Barbie can do anything, she's literally the jack of all trades in that she comes as everything from a racecar driver, to police officer, to rocket scientist. She's also a MRE of 'Yes', because her setting is simply in default earth. This jack of all trades nature is more or less shared by other her sidekick, and to be blunt, I doubt ranagrande, a male, would be likely to be familiar with Barbie's various one-line dolls 'friends'.
Dr. Mcninja - there are only two female characters in this series, the doc's ninja-mother and an ape named Judy. This is not a really well known series, so I doubt it to begin with, but generally speaking I doubt ranagrande would have used very second tier characters from a little known webcomic. Although having read some of it, I must say it is rather humorous. It's also set in default modern earth, so it doesn't appear a great candidate for UNC, though maybe they skip around to weird places, I just read the first episode on his war with McDonalds. Ultimately, besides the character's mom and an ape being the only female characters, his MCS answer of UNC is ludicrous. "I am a secondary character in a little-known webcomic" is not a great candidate for Uncertain on a question asking if people came from a major setting or were major character.
Pokemon - The female protagonists from the game are Leaf, Kris, Lyra, May, and Dawn, plus Misty from the anime. I have difficulty seeing - from my own admittedly limited knowledge of this setting - why any of these would be likely to be 'kinda' on consistency?
Kronin explained his 'Kinda' on consistency by saying the flavor made it make sense, when queried regarding this, he did not respond and has not responded on the board and has not posted since then, going well beyond the 72 hour period, yet he can be shown to be not RBIRL, as Yunalesca, Kylia, and I can all testify he has been present on the RP Mafia Chat room during this period, as has Talic. He is a long-term and active player, a sudden disappearance just as a probing question was asked regarding an abnormal answer not associated to any RBIRL is highly suspicious.
To summarize, I feel both Kronin and Artsapat have exhibited other suspicious behavior I may detail later, but what we appear to have is two players with strong appearance of collusion - The Chair Vote and the similiar answers - as well very questionable if not outright false answers and an apparent strong desire not to answer certain questions. I'd advise everyone to check my data in case I made an error- there was lots of info, mistakes happen - but at this time I believe a strong case exists for both.
Unvote
FOS: Artsapat
FOS: Kronin
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King of Cairhien 20-7-2
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RAFO Mafia 17, Day 1: Trouble in Paradise
30/05/2010 10:43:08 PM
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Miscellaneous information
30/05/2010 10:44:49 PM
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Since I have not seen anybody else do this before (and it's a great way to start a conversation)
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EBWOP: Don't know why this was not in the root, where I thought I put it
31/05/2010 07:34:09 PM
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Re: RAFO Mafia 17, Day 1: Trouble in Paradise
31/05/2010 03:08:30 AM
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I'm afraid I'm already waaay in over my head
31/05/2010 07:20:54 AM
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Don't forget the 5th element *NM*
31/05/2010 08:25:13 AM
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Okay, so, let's get this started.
31/05/2010 07:48:13 AM
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Well that depends.
31/05/2010 06:53:02 PM
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Wow, of all the people here to be unfamiliar with a character.
31/05/2010 07:43:54 PM
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I do...(for both)
31/05/2010 07:09:06 PM
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I would be willing to bet that's true.
31/05/2010 08:50:05 PM
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So are you saying the Tourists are also all... tourists?
31/05/2010 08:54:31 PM
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EBWOP
31/05/2010 08:57:51 PM
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Yes, and I recently read/watched/listened to whatever it is I'm from, too. Loved it *NM*
31/05/2010 07:29:20 PM
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No idea. *NM*
31/05/2010 10:28:53 PM
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Yes to both. *NM*
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Wait, scratch that. I don't have a place of origin. *NM*
01/06/2010 03:06:49 AM
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I didn't think he meant place but rather the work that you're from *NM*
01/06/2010 03:20:59 AM
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If there is an Oompa Loompa song whenever someone dies, I will die happy *NM*
31/05/2010 06:09:38 PM
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+1
31/05/2010 08:35:28 PM
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+1 to that song. *NM*
31/05/2010 08:46:39 PM
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Since I tried to start a conversation, but failed (because I posted in the wrong place?)
01/06/2010 07:25:29 AM
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ummm, dear?
01/06/2010 10:49:54 AM
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^^^Attention-seeker = Jester^^^
01/06/2010 11:07:44 PM
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Some first thoughts
01/06/2010 10:27:38 PM
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Current Info (Table)
01/06/2010 10:40:41 PM
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No and yes.
02/06/2010 02:23:49 AM
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Random stone throwing super dick vote
02/06/2010 08:00:57 PM
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Just do your best on answers, the questions are deliberately vague
02/06/2010 12:43:25 AM
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OK, so we all know who we are. Now what?
02/06/2010 05:12:38 PM
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We seem to have two random votes already
02/06/2010 06:06:29 PM
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What do y'all think?
03/06/2010 12:36:23 AM
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I won't be participating in that.
03/06/2010 01:06:26 AM
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That's pretty legit.
03/06/2010 02:05:50 AM
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We could talk about Napoleon62 and Isaac voting each other for no reason *NM*
03/06/2010 02:43:03 AM
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You think there are ulterior motives?
03/06/2010 03:07:28 AM
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Fair enough. Good reason not to.
03/06/2010 03:45:35 AM
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I actually think it's a decent idea, just needs a modification
03/06/2010 04:33:47 AM
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I remember that.
03/06/2010 06:10:33 AM
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Okay, so next 'question'
03/06/2010 07:57:08 AM
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Ranagrande really seemed to make an effort to go out of his way here.
03/06/2010 01:31:03 PM
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But if you're from something really weird
03/06/2010 05:54:37 PM
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You don't even need to pick a bunch of weird things
03/06/2010 08:23:19 PM
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Is one of those two sets of 5 your answer to your 5 worlds question?
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IMPORTANT POINT
04/06/2010 05:04:18 AM
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Who, exactly, is this warning intended for?
04/06/2010 05:30:05 AM
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Re: Who, exactly, is this warning intended for?
04/06/2010 05:37:25 AM
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Re: Who, exactly, is this warning intended for?
04/06/2010 05:49:00 AM
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It is an interesting theory, though
04/06/2010 07:37:30 AM
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Re: It is an interesting theory, though
04/06/2010 08:41:16 AM
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I was assuming she meant it the same way we warn hypocoppers
04/06/2010 03:51:06 PM
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jargon question.
04/06/2010 06:19:51 PM
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Sorry I screwed up your fancy plans.
04/06/2010 08:05:18 PM
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I must be really tired.
05/06/2010 02:52:32 AM
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Honestly, anyone trying to lynch based solely on series
05/06/2010 04:00:13 AM
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Out of curiosity, what did he say?
05/06/2010 06:47:43 AM
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He said he was programmed.
05/06/2010 08:22:45 AM
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But... wasn't that the robot game, where we were all programmed?
05/06/2010 07:37:03 PM
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Actually, my own RM didn't mention robots at all, so odds are neither did DK's
05/06/2010 09:00:52 PM
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Can we agree on revealing gender? *NM*
04/06/2010 06:20:29 PM
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Will that really help us tell who is mafia and who is not?
04/06/2010 06:39:07 PM
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Will listing off five random worlds?
05/06/2010 04:09:55 AM
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Re: Will listing off five random worlds?
06/06/2010 10:11:18 PM
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btw, what happened to the Chair election?
04/06/2010 10:46:41 PM
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I'm relatively content to give it to anyone who doesn't have day 1 lynch jitters
05/06/2010 12:12:19 AM
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OK, since I'm apparently Chair (including a Table) *updated Jun 9th*
06/06/2010 07:43:10 PM
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Male. . . .again. *NM*
07/06/2010 08:37:52 AM
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Napoleon's going to have a hard time
07/06/2010 09:10:21 AM
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Let's not. *NM*
07/06/2010 08:06:58 PM
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I'll call you Smurfette anyway. You know, just because I can. *NM*
07/06/2010 08:29:35 PM
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Settings (Table)
07/06/2010 12:47:35 AM
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Uh
07/06/2010 02:13:40 AM
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Can someone explain for the slow kids?
08/06/2010 06:59:47 AM
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Short answer: click the little links at the right side of the page
08/06/2010 10:56:37 PM
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Anyone else get the feeling we have some "nontraditional" settings?
08/06/2010 12:04:23 AM
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Didn't I suggest that from the beginning? *NM*
08/06/2010 03:08:36 AM
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I must say that it makes me uncomfortable
08/06/2010 07:40:00 AM
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Just went back: ranagrande told me knowing settings is not vital to playing. A slight relief. *NM*
08/06/2010 07:49:10 AM
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Two new thoughts
08/06/2010 07:48:24 AM
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Re: Two new thoughts
09/06/2010 12:02:01 AM
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Re: Two new thoughts
09/06/2010 04:31:06 AM
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Re: Two new thoughts
09/06/2010 04:57:02 AM
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In which I spoil everyone's identity! (Well, maybe not)
09/06/2010 07:34:08 AM
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Whoops, replied to the wrong spot... ignore this one, look below! *NM*
09/06/2010 07:35:40 AM
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In which I spoil everyone's identity! (Well, maybe not)
09/06/2010 07:35:10 AM
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Not sure about the Talic vote, but
09/06/2010 10:35:25 AM
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Agree
09/06/2010 12:24:47 PM
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Yeah, I'll be participating even less than before.
09/06/2010 06:10:34 PM
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Re: Yeah, I'll be participating even less than before.
09/06/2010 06:26:08 PM
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Re: Yeah, I'll be participating even less than before.
09/06/2010 08:53:53 PM
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Maybe you should explain why you think a 'No Lynch' on Day 1 is always bad
10/06/2010 02:05:16 AM
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Do we have any reason to believe that the scum are not a single united faction? *NM*
10/06/2010 02:23:11 AM
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I'd say so, it's indicated in the intro text and it's been normal of late
10/06/2010 02:35:26 AM
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Because it is always bad. Seems like the ideal reason.
10/06/2010 04:21:10 AM
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Good points.
10/06/2010 04:45:24 AM
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Re: Because it is always bad. Seems like the ideal reason.
10/06/2010 05:03:15 AM
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We might randomly lynch (or try to lynch) someone who is part of a faction
10/06/2010 06:37:48 AM
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I don't believe in completely random lynches.
10/06/2010 04:35:42 PM
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I feel like random lynches are a really good place for scum to hide.
10/06/2010 06:19:22 PM
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'Seems' isn't 'Is', a dead townie is a dead townie
10/06/2010 05:57:19 AM
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Which is pretty much the point.
10/06/2010 05:39:36 PM
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Re: Which is pretty much the point.
10/06/2010 06:31:40 PM
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Re: Which is pretty much the point.
11/06/2010 01:56:41 AM
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Re: Which is pretty much the point.
11/06/2010 12:58:25 AM
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Incidentally, how likely do you think it is that I am a Darkfriend?
11/06/2010 01:34:55 AM
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Probably less than random with some caveats, over all, roughly random
11/06/2010 02:21:24 AM
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Re: Probably less than random with some caveats, over all, roughly random
11/06/2010 02:40:33 AM
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I suppose we're back to DefCon 5
11/06/2010 03:36:12 AM
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Hmm... I did forget the "main character" thing. Regardless, Talic is Captain Morgan
09/06/2010 11:25:03 PM
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So sorry guys
10/06/2010 06:31:49 AM
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No problem
10/06/2010 04:17:27 PM
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Any chance we can get Gher to replace in?
10/06/2010 07:30:04 PM
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An addition to my Talic accusation
10/06/2010 08:48:14 AM
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Duffman wouldn't be awesome?
10/06/2010 10:31:30 AM
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Oh come on.
10/06/2010 05:56:54 PM
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I maintain it made sense
11/06/2010 02:55:39 AM
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Combined Info (Table)
11/06/2010 04:33:01 AM
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The All-Seeing Eye of Sauron is upon you... let the brutal analysis begin
11/06/2010 05:16:27 AM
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Hmm ... I think I am working from a different definition of Modern Real Earth.
11/06/2010 06:37:04 AM
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Re: Hmm ... I think I am working from a different definition of Modern Real Earth.
11/06/2010 12:50:16 PM
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Re: The All-Seeing Eye of Sauron is upon you... let the brutal analysis begin
12/06/2010 03:33:37 PM
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RBIRL for another effing week.
13/06/2010 01:55:52 AM
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I am forced to assume
13/06/2010 02:46:47 PM
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I'm not busy at all! Let's murder someone!
13/06/2010 04:06:04 AM
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Re: I'm not busy at all! Let's murder someone!
13/06/2010 02:16:40 PM
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Good point.
13/06/2010 06:20:55 PM
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Before I basically disappear from this thread for about a week...
13/06/2010 08:55:03 PM
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Re: Before I basically disappear from this thread for about a week...
14/06/2010 02:35:18 AM
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Okay, pushing forward
14/06/2010 04:29:20 PM
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Pledge: No; CON: Sure
15/06/2010 12:31:57 AM
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So...
15/06/2010 01:04:11 AM
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If you will allow me to be pedantic.
15/06/2010 01:24:07 AM
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Ok, I just want to say I'm sorry for not posting as much as I normally do
15/06/2010 02:52:31 AM
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Okay, now you're just pushing for a No-Lynch in different terms.
15/06/2010 04:49:26 AM
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<coughs> Not trying to imply you didn't actually read the post here, but...
15/06/2010 07:35:44 AM
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Also...
15/06/2010 03:12:18 PM
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BA has a point- townies ALREADY have an incentive to ask questions. Why reward DFs?
15/06/2010 07:56:04 AM
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Seeing hwo you're trying to protect me from getting Lynched
15/06/2010 12:40:27 PM
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Well, the lengthy posts are for clarity, apparently I wasn't lengthy enough.
15/06/2010 05:05:22 PM
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Every vanilla is supposed to say yes.
15/06/2010 06:13:08 PM
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Which of course brings about the real problem, which is the opposite of what you say.
15/06/2010 06:26:42 PM
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Let me hold off on answering this, if you don't mind
15/06/2010 07:14:25 PM
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Fine, I'm not in a hurry. *NM*
15/06/2010 07:17:10 PM
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Let me run another possible question by you
15/06/2010 08:18:33 PM
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By the way, this is sort of a revision of white flame's question
15/06/2010 08:21:32 PM
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At first glance, I don't see any problem with it.
15/06/2010 09:31:44 PM
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to get the game moving
15/06/2010 08:53:38 PM
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go on... *NM*
15/06/2010 09:38:13 PM
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its day one, do i realy need a reason? *NM*
15/06/2010 09:56:59 PM
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It is customary *NM*
15/06/2010 10:01:25 PM
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well...
15/06/2010 11:04:29 PM
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Next Question
15/06/2010 09:56:10 PM
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Strong Yes
16/06/2010 06:38:53 AM
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Didn't you already say you were a manly man?
16/06/2010 12:52:57 PM
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Who isn't answering questions (Table)
17/06/2010 03:13:58 PM
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One of my answers
18/06/2010 12:50:15 PM
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It won't be too much longer
18/06/2010 05:25:36 PM
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All right, let's do this, I have two people to accuse
19/06/2010 08:36:14 PM
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why just FOS?
19/06/2010 09:48:25 PM
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I can't vote for two people at once
19/06/2010 10:12:10 PM
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Honestly, I'm in standby at this point.
20/06/2010 09:31:42 AM
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Just for you Beet, a non-acronym version
20/06/2010 05:13:07 PM
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Re: All right, let's do this, I have two people to accuse
20/06/2010 01:29:43 PM
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I'll reply to this in bits, but first:
20/06/2010 06:09:26 PM
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Re: I'll reply to this in bits, but first:
20/06/2010 06:44:33 PM
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Let me extend you an offer
20/06/2010 08:24:11 PM
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A typo-less message implies I'm distracted? How?
21/06/2010 04:41:17 AM
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No, you said you were distracted, I said the message looks like you want people to think so
21/06/2010 04:52:36 AM
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I thought I did address the accusation.
21/06/2010 05:06:41 AM
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See, and I know you're gonna think that was an intentional typo to prove a point. It wasn't, honest
21/06/2010 05:09:05 AM
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I'm not really interested in typos one way or another
21/06/2010 05:16:19 AM
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I'm a Barbie girl, in a Barbie world.
21/06/2010 05:27:27 AM
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And now I'm gonna sleep. I'll get to your questions in the morning.
21/06/2010 05:29:08 AM
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Aqua aside, why did you answer UNC for MRE and MCS?
21/06/2010 05:35:31 AM
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Re: Aqua aside, why did you answer UNC for MRE and MCS?
21/06/2010 02:59:05 PM
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I think UNC is consistent for MRE for Barbie
21/06/2010 06:51:13 PM
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For the record, I did eventually change my consistency to a yes.
21/06/2010 07:17:09 PM
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Possible, and MCS?
21/06/2010 07:21:29 PM
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Yeah, that's also sketchy.
21/06/2010 07:28:24 PM
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Re: Yeah, that's also sketchy.
21/06/2010 08:03:27 PM
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Kronin's Barbie, but claimed he wasn't a major character? Vote: Kronin
21/06/2010 11:39:34 PM
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I'd like a roleclaim.
22/06/2010 12:48:13 AM
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Honestly, looking back, consistency should've been a yes.
22/06/2010 01:21:16 AM
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Each day you can be a different role? That's kind of awesome *NM*
22/06/2010 07:22:35 AM
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Well, I knew it would come down to this, as soon as you pointed a finger to me.
21/06/2010 08:02:42 AM
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Wow, so I suppose these questions can be used in a town friendly way
20/06/2010 02:06:15 PM
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Ok, let's avoid the horizontal scroll
22/06/2010 01:25:27 AM
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"You lie you die" is sound policy not only Day 1, but every Day.
22/06/2010 01:40:46 AM
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Re: Ok, let's avoid the horizontal scroll
22/06/2010 01:43:07 AM
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I suppose I'll join in
22/06/2010 01:45:48 AM
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Re: Ok, let's avoid the horizontal scroll
22/06/2010 04:15:44 AM
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Re: Ok, let's avoid the horizontal scroll
22/06/2010 04:31:27 AM
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My answers to the 2 questions asked...
20/06/2010 05:31:22 PM
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Kronin al'Sulc has been lynched
22/06/2010 01:44:22 PM
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