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Re: Some first thoughts BlackAdder Send a noteboard - 01/06/2010 11:03:00 PM
3-3

I guess it's possible, but if it is true, then I would assume the town also has a vig. Lynching 6 DFs out of 16 players is a tall order considering 2 NKs a night.

Jester

Rana said RAFO. Normally I would not think there is one, and this is getting in a a gray area, but if there was definitely no Jester, then I think rana would have simply told us that.

  • Everybody's from completely different settings, e.g. Darth Vader but no Luke or Han, Rand but no Ishamael.

    • I think this is probably most likely, though there is a chance of having some hero/villain pairs.

    1. You lie, you die - Success is its own excuse, we won't auto-lynch someone who has clearly lied to the town's benefit, but I fully plan to vote for anyone who does without a A+ excuse and will likely vote for them even then.

    In principle yes, avoid lying unless you absolutely have to. However, this probably holds true for both town and mafia.

    2. Don't RC, even truthfully, early unless you've been pressed, we don't need four or five people claiming vanilla to protect their necks from NK and lynch at the heightened odds of losing our cops, docs, etc. So with that in mind, please don't volunteer extra info to these questions unless you think it will aid the cause, and that's the 'Town wins' cause, not the 'I, personally, don't get lynched or NK'd' cause.

    +1.

    a) Are you from a setting that primarily revolves around Modern Earth, such that very little setting background is needed for an audience?

    Uh, at first I thought 'yes', but thinking about it some more, I would say 'no'

    b) Are you a relatively major character from a relatively well-known series?

    'No'

    tbh, I don't know if you've read the entire thread yet, but posts from a few people, including ranamod, suggest that there are likely to be at least a few, if not many, minor characters from lesser known works...
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    RAFO Mafia 17, Day 1: Trouble in Paradise ranagrande - 30/05/2010 10:43:08 PM 4645 Views
    Miscellaneous information ranagrande - 30/05/2010 10:44:49 PM 1621 Views
    Epic Intro *NM* Talic - 31/05/2010 02:26:49 AM 994 Views
    Thanks *NM* ranagrande - 31/05/2010 04:00:59 AM 950 Views
    Re: Miscellaneous information BlackAdder - 31/05/2010 04:38:35 AM 1612 Views
    Since I have not seen anybody else do this before (and it's a great way to start a conversation) Artsapat - 31/05/2010 07:33:03 PM 1548 Views
    EBWOP: Don't know why this was not in the root, where I thought I put it Artsapat - 31/05/2010 07:34:09 PM 1550 Views
    What. Kronin al'Sulc - 31/05/2010 02:30:11 AM 1645 Views
    Re: What. Fox and Ravens - 31/05/2010 03:01:21 AM 1700 Views
    Or maybe he just wants us to think that ... Darth_Katie - 31/05/2010 04:08:54 AM 1609 Views
    RAFO *NM* ranagrande - 31/05/2010 04:01:26 AM 959 Views
    Re: RAFO Mafia 17, Day 1: Trouble in Paradise Fox and Ravens - 31/05/2010 03:08:30 AM 1642 Views
    I'm afraid I'm already waaay in over my head Artsapat - 31/05/2010 07:20:54 AM 1528 Views
    You don't need to get all the references to play though ranagrande - 31/05/2010 07:31:32 AM 1501 Views
    Don't forget the 5th element *NM* Talic - 31/05/2010 08:25:13 AM 1027 Views
    and the adam's family *NM* Yunalesca - 31/05/2010 03:26:23 PM 996 Views
    African Rabies is World War Z. Also- DEATH UNICORN!!!! beetnemesis - 31/05/2010 06:06:47 PM 1620 Views
    Okay, so, let's get this started. Hobo - 31/05/2010 07:48:13 AM 1635 Views
    yes and yes *NM* Yunalesca - 31/05/2010 12:24:19 PM 981 Views
    Yes and Yes. Do you? *NM* Artsapat - 31/05/2010 01:03:04 PM 983 Views
    Yes I do. *NM* Hobo - 31/05/2010 07:42:15 PM 1007 Views
    Indeedy. *NM* Darth_Katie - 31/05/2010 02:48:49 PM 954 Views
    Yessir *NM* White Flame of Tar Valon - 31/05/2010 02:59:06 PM 963 Views
    Yup *NM* beetnemesis - 31/05/2010 06:07:41 PM 882 Views
    Well that depends. Fanatic-Templar - 31/05/2010 06:53:02 PM 1471 Views
    Wow, of all the people here to be unfamiliar with a character. Hobo - 31/05/2010 07:43:54 PM 1536 Views
    Yeah, that's weird BlackAdder - 31/05/2010 08:02:09 PM 1499 Views
    I went with Wikipedia, actually . Fanatic-Templar - 31/05/2010 08:11:31 PM 1649 Views
    I do...(for both) Napoleon62 - 31/05/2010 07:09:06 PM 1748 Views
    I would be willing to bet that's true. Darth_Katie - 31/05/2010 08:50:05 PM 1583 Views
    So are you saying the Tourists are also all... tourists? BlackAdder - 31/05/2010 08:54:31 PM 1524 Views
    EBWOP BlackAdder - 31/05/2010 08:57:51 PM 1510 Views
    I think the "Zombie" comes from the African Rabies reference beetnemesis - 31/05/2010 09:42:31 PM 1579 Views
    That's a good point. Darth_Katie - 31/05/2010 10:09:29 PM 1567 Views
    Maybe whoever dies becomes a zombie Kylia Skydancer - 02/06/2010 01:57:59 AM 1575 Views
    What's in a name? Fanatic-Templar - 01/06/2010 03:09:24 AM 1517 Views
    Clever Darth_Katie - 01/06/2010 03:37:55 AM 1401 Views
    Yes, and I recently read/watched/listened to whatever it is I'm from, too. Loved it *NM* BlackAdder - 31/05/2010 07:29:20 PM 923 Views
    No idea. *NM* Amys - 31/05/2010 10:28:53 PM 953 Views
    Does that mean you're just not sure of who you are Darth_Katie - 01/06/2010 12:51:17 AM 1439 Views
    *looks shamefully down* Amys - 01/06/2010 07:22:16 AM 1638 Views
    Yeargh! *NM* Talic - 31/05/2010 11:59:28 PM 952 Views
    Yes to both. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 01/06/2010 12:54:55 AM 1002 Views
    Wait, scratch that. I don't have a place of origin. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 01/06/2010 03:06:49 AM 864 Views
    I didn't think he meant place but rather the work that you're from *NM* BlackAdder - 01/06/2010 03:20:59 AM 923 Views
    Oh. Then yeah. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 01/06/2010 03:48:21 AM 1094 Views
    Yeah...i got both. *NM* Fox and Ravens - 01/06/2010 02:57:56 AM 951 Views
    yeps. *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 02/06/2010 01:35:56 AM 887 Views
    Oh, and I nearly forgot ... Darth_Katie - 31/05/2010 02:50:14 PM 1571 Views
    WOOOOOOOO *NM* beetnemesis - 31/05/2010 06:07:54 PM 985 Views
    If there is an Oompa Loompa song whenever someone dies, I will die happy *NM* beetnemesis - 31/05/2010 06:09:38 PM 918 Views
    +1 Yunalesca - 31/05/2010 08:35:28 PM 1586 Views
    +1 to that song. *NM* Darth_Katie - 31/05/2010 08:46:39 PM 957 Views
    thank you, i'm here all week *NM* Yunalesca - 31/05/2010 09:48:53 PM 941 Views
    Re: thank you, i'm here all week *NM* Yunalesca - 31/05/2010 09:49:52 PM 949 Views
    people would die of hilarity. *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 02/06/2010 02:03:07 AM 1003 Views
    Since I tried to start a conversation, but failed (because I posted in the wrong place?) Artsapat - 01/06/2010 07:25:29 AM 1445 Views
    ummm, dear? Yunalesca - 01/06/2010 10:49:54 AM 1483 Views
    Actually, there is. *NM* ranagrande - 01/06/2010 11:27:46 AM 971 Views
    fudgemuffins *NM* Yunalesca - 01/06/2010 04:02:28 PM 875 Views
    Are the election rules the same? And the 96 hour deadline? BlackAdder - 02/06/2010 01:08:06 AM 1400 Views
    It's announced in the Miscellaneous information Artsapat - 01/06/2010 03:17:06 PM 1444 Views
    ^^^Attention-seeker = Jester^^^ BlackAdder - 01/06/2010 11:07:44 PM 1430 Views
    Re: ^^^Attention-seeker = Jester^^^ BlackAdder - 02/06/2010 01:12:59 AM 1531 Views
    At least I got the discussion going. *NM* Artsapat - 02/06/2010 05:58:58 PM 909 Views
    You know what? Kronin al'Sulc - 02/06/2010 06:11:16 PM 1570 Views
    Two can play at that game! Darth_Katie - 03/06/2010 01:58:09 AM 1438 Views
    Some first thoughts Isaac - 01/06/2010 10:27:38 PM 1426 Views
    Current Info (Table) Isaac - 01/06/2010 10:40:41 PM 1694 Views
    Re: Current Info (Table) Yunalesca - 01/06/2010 10:42:17 PM 1510 Views
    UNC UNC *NM* Fox and Ravens - 01/06/2010 11:35:11 PM 970 Views
    Yes & UNC Kylia Skydancer - 02/06/2010 02:14:48 AM 1615 Views
    No and yes. Napoleon62 - 02/06/2010 02:23:49 AM 1500 Views
    OMGUS Vote: Napoleon62 *NM* Isaac - 02/06/2010 02:40:52 AM 962 Views
    Random stone throwing super dick vote Talic - 02/06/2010 08:00:57 PM 1511 Views
    ranagrande has been lynched ranagrande - 02/06/2010 09:30:53 PM 1519 Views
    ROFL Artsapat - 02/06/2010 09:47:48 PM 1586 Views
    Hahaha Darth_Katie - 03/06/2010 02:08:29 AM 1540 Views
    UNC and NO Artsapat - 02/06/2010 06:05:25 PM 1542 Views
    Re: UNC and NO Isaac - 02/06/2010 06:17:14 PM 1513 Views
    UNC and NO *NM* Darth_Katie - 03/06/2010 01:56:35 AM 913 Views
    a) Kinda - Yes/UNC. B) UNC. Kronin al'Sulc - 01/06/2010 10:54:32 PM 1538 Views
    Re: Some first thoughts BlackAdder - 01/06/2010 11:03:00 PM 1594 Views
    UNC/UNC *NM* Talic - 01/06/2010 11:42:21 PM 1014 Views
    Yes and unable to judge - UNC *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 02/06/2010 12:22:33 AM 931 Views
    Just do your best on answers, the questions are deliberately vague Isaac - 02/06/2010 12:43:25 AM 1401 Views
    So... many... acronyms... beetnemesis - 02/06/2010 01:51:46 AM 1456 Views
    Nipz makes me think of Cheese Nips. Darth_Katie - 03/06/2010 01:55:20 AM 1532 Views
    Yes and yes. *NM* Hobo - 02/06/2010 01:55:07 AM 949 Views
    Yes/Yes *NM* White Flame of Tar Valon - 02/06/2010 03:46:49 PM 951 Views
    UNC and UNC *NM* Amys - 03/06/2010 04:36:55 PM 859 Views
    OK, so we all know who we are. Now what? beetnemesis - 02/06/2010 05:12:38 PM 1531 Views
    We seem to have two random votes already Artsapat - 02/06/2010 06:06:29 PM 1364 Views
    You mean Napoleon and Isaac? beetnemesis - 03/06/2010 03:07:14 AM 1544 Views
    Still, it's a start Artsapat - 03/06/2010 06:40:16 PM 1486 Views
    What do y'all think? Hobo - 03/06/2010 12:36:23 AM 1465 Views
    Re: What do y'all think? BlackAdder - 03/06/2010 01:01:52 AM 1505 Views
    I won't be participating in that. Fanatic-Templar - 03/06/2010 01:06:26 AM 1390 Views
    That's pretty legit. Darth_Katie - 03/06/2010 02:05:50 AM 1513 Views
    We could talk about Napoleon62 and Isaac voting each other for no reason *NM* BlackAdder - 03/06/2010 02:43:03 AM 923 Views
    You think there are ulterior motives? Darth_Katie - 03/06/2010 03:07:28 AM 1442 Views
    *confused* Aren't there always? *NM* BlackAdder - 03/06/2010 03:09:49 AM 976 Views
    Not really in this case Isaac - 03/06/2010 04:46:02 AM 1428 Views
    It was a joke beetnemesis - 03/06/2010 03:11:00 AM 1471 Views
    Re: It was a joke White Flame of Tar Valon - 03/06/2010 03:14:48 AM 1391 Views
    Fair enough. Good reason not to. Hobo - 03/06/2010 03:45:35 AM 1478 Views
    I actually think it's a decent idea, just needs a modification Isaac - 03/06/2010 04:33:47 AM 1491 Views
    I remember that. Hobo - 03/06/2010 06:10:33 AM 1410 Views
    Okay, so next 'question' Isaac - 03/06/2010 07:57:08 AM 1531 Views
    Ranagrande really seemed to make an effort to go out of his way here. Kronin al'Sulc - 03/06/2010 01:31:03 PM 1446 Views
    But if you're from something really weird Darth_Katie - 03/06/2010 05:54:37 PM 1525 Views
    You don't even need to pick a bunch of weird things Isaac - 03/06/2010 08:23:19 PM 1603 Views
    Is one of those two sets of 5 your answer to your 5 worlds question? BlackAdder - 06/06/2010 10:03:52 PM 1592 Views
    No, they were examples Isaac - 07/06/2010 12:14:03 AM 1357 Views
    Yeah, I'm still not doing it. Fanatic-Templar - 03/06/2010 06:59:26 PM 1582 Views
    yeesh! Kylia Skydancer - 03/06/2010 09:36:33 AM 1466 Views
    Re: yeesh! Isaac - 03/06/2010 10:41:58 AM 1452 Views
    Alright, I'll do it you fraidy catz BlackAdder - 03/06/2010 09:23:58 PM 1527 Views
    Re: What do y'all think? Fox and Ravens - 03/06/2010 04:28:44 AM 1487 Views
    IMPORTANT POINT Darth_Katie - 04/06/2010 05:04:18 AM 1464 Views
    That's a good point BlackAdder - 04/06/2010 05:28:39 AM 1480 Views
    Who, exactly, is this warning intended for? Isaac - 04/06/2010 05:30:05 AM 1577 Views
    Re: Who, exactly, is this warning intended for? BlackAdder - 04/06/2010 05:37:25 AM 1526 Views
    Re: Who, exactly, is this warning intended for? Isaac - 04/06/2010 05:49:00 AM 1486 Views
    It is an interesting theory, though BlackAdder - 04/06/2010 07:37:30 AM 1436 Views
    Re: It is an interesting theory, though Isaac - 04/06/2010 08:41:16 AM 1549 Views
    Oh, BTW Isaac: you didn't update for my answer in your Table Artsapat - 04/06/2010 09:01:00 AM 1487 Views
    Wow, that's a weird one Isaac - 04/06/2010 09:44:23 AM 1392 Views
    Re: It is an interesting theory, though BlackAdder - 04/06/2010 03:41:43 PM 1551 Views
    I was assuming she meant it the same way we warn hypocoppers beetnemesis - 04/06/2010 03:51:06 PM 1423 Views
    jargon question. Kylia Skydancer - 04/06/2010 06:19:51 PM 1474 Views
    Re: jargon question. BlackAdder - 04/06/2010 06:37:34 PM 1449 Views
    okies thanks *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 05/06/2010 03:56:31 AM 892 Views
    Sorry I screwed up your fancy plans. Darth_Katie - 04/06/2010 08:05:18 PM 1505 Views
    I must be really tired. Fanatic-Templar - 05/06/2010 02:52:32 AM 1426 Views
    Honestly, anyone trying to lynch based solely on series BlackAdder - 05/06/2010 04:00:13 AM 1379 Views
    or to kill? Kylia Skydancer - 05/06/2010 04:05:53 AM 1463 Views
    Re: or to kill? Darth_Katie - 05/06/2010 08:18:25 AM 1479 Views
    EBWOP: programmed, not programmer *NM* Darth_Katie - 05/06/2010 08:21:00 AM 945 Views
    Ohhhh ok, so you assumed he was roled, not that he wa a Doc beetnemesis - 05/06/2010 07:37:36 PM 1552 Views
    Out of curiosity, what did he say? beetnemesis - 05/06/2010 06:47:43 AM 1573 Views
    He said he was programmed. Darth_Katie - 05/06/2010 08:22:45 AM 1488 Views
    But... wasn't that the robot game, where we were all programmed? beetnemesis - 05/06/2010 07:37:03 PM 1570 Views
    Actually, my own RM didn't mention robots at all, so odds are neither did DK's Isaac - 05/06/2010 09:00:52 PM 1571 Views
    Yup, it was the same. *NM* Darth_Katie - 05/06/2010 10:11:22 PM 895 Views
    Can we agree on revealing gender? *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 04/06/2010 06:20:29 PM 917 Views
    Will that really help us tell who is mafia and who is not? BlackAdder - 04/06/2010 06:39:07 PM 1592 Views
    It'll get us info. Hobo - 04/06/2010 08:27:20 PM 1564 Views
    Will listing off five random worlds? Kylia Skydancer - 05/06/2010 04:09:55 AM 1389 Views
    Re: Will listing off five random worlds? Darth_Katie - 05/06/2010 08:25:38 AM 1537 Views
    Re: Will listing off five random worlds? BlackAdder - 06/06/2010 10:11:18 PM 1437 Views
    Re: Will listing off five random worlds? Kylia Skydancer - 07/06/2010 10:31:21 AM 1542 Views
    Re: Will listing off five random worlds? Artsapat - 07/06/2010 12:23:35 PM 1395 Views
    I think we should do this. Napoleon62 - 05/06/2010 01:21:18 AM 1481 Views
    im definalty a man *NM* Yunalesca - 06/06/2010 09:07:47 PM 869 Views
    btw, what happened to the Chair election? BlackAdder - 04/06/2010 10:46:41 PM 1440 Views
    I'm relatively content to give it to anyone who doesn't have day 1 lynch jitters Isaac - 05/06/2010 12:12:19 AM 2034 Views
    Artsapat has been elected Chair. ranagrande - 05/06/2010 12:39:05 AM 1466 Views
    OK, since I'm apparently Chair (including a Table) *updated Jun 9th* Artsapat - 06/06/2010 07:43:10 PM 1524 Views
    BlackAdder - M *NM* BlackAdder - 06/06/2010 10:00:38 PM 912 Views
    Isaac - M (a note on gender) Isaac - 06/06/2010 11:01:55 PM 1425 Views
    I'm a dude. *NM* Darth_Katie - 07/06/2010 12:04:11 AM 960 Views
    Male *NM* White Flame of Tar Valon - 07/06/2010 12:42:34 AM 879 Views
    I am female Napoleon62 - 07/06/2010 03:11:45 AM 1464 Views
    Male. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 07/06/2010 04:52:39 AM 894 Views
    I must have been REALLY tired not having seen this yesterday Artsapat - 07/06/2010 08:00:23 AM 1457 Views
    Male. . . .again. *NM* Amys - 07/06/2010 08:37:52 AM 899 Views
    Napoleon's going to have a hard time Artsapat - 07/06/2010 09:10:21 AM 1489 Views
    Let's not. *NM* Napoleon62 - 07/06/2010 08:06:58 PM 901 Views
    I'll call you Smurfette anyway. You know, just because I can. *NM* Artsapat - 07/06/2010 08:29:35 PM 870 Views
    Don't worry, Bro. We can have girl talk together *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 07/06/2010 08:44:32 PM 984 Views
    Male *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 07/06/2010 10:26:37 AM 911 Views
    Female. *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 07/06/2010 01:21:11 PM 869 Views
    I'm all MAN!!!!! Talic - 07/06/2010 02:04:55 PM 1522 Views
    I am a manly man! *NM* beetnemesis - 07/06/2010 11:57:48 PM 840 Views
    Male *NM* Fox and Ravens - 08/06/2010 03:22:47 AM 939 Views
    Male *NM* Hobo - 09/06/2010 12:19:46 AM 877 Views
    Settings (Table) Isaac - 07/06/2010 12:47:35 AM 1395 Views
    Uh BlackAdder - 07/06/2010 02:13:40 AM 1528 Views
    Re: Uh Isaac - 07/06/2010 03:20:53 AM 1551 Views
    Yeah, I don't get it either. Fanatic-Templar - 07/06/2010 04:56:42 AM 1395 Views
    Can someone explain for the slow kids? beetnemesis - 08/06/2010 06:59:47 AM 1416 Views
    Short answer: click the little links at the right side of the page BlackAdder - 08/06/2010 10:56:37 PM 1589 Views
    Basically Isaac - 08/06/2010 11:16:26 PM 1574 Views
    Hmm... Kylia Skydancer - 07/06/2010 10:49:12 AM 1482 Views
    Mine Yunalesca - 07/06/2010 01:54:06 PM 1529 Views
    Soooo yeah..... Talic - 07/06/2010 02:03:19 PM 1522 Views
    Hm. Alright. Kronin al'Sulc - 07/06/2010 07:15:16 PM 1514 Views
    Re: Settings (Table) Artsapat - 07/06/2010 08:56:30 PM 1477 Views
    Re: Settings (Table) White Flame of Tar Valon - 07/06/2010 11:42:27 PM 1451 Views
    Anyone else get the feeling we have some "nontraditional" settings? beetnemesis - 08/06/2010 12:04:23 AM 1500 Views
    Didn't I suggest that from the beginning? *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 08/06/2010 03:08:36 AM 888 Views
    I must say that it makes me uncomfortable Artsapat - 08/06/2010 07:40:00 AM 1456 Views
    Just went back: ranagrande told me knowing settings is not vital to playing. A slight relief. *NM* Artsapat - 08/06/2010 07:49:10 AM 933 Views
    Re: Settings (Table) Fox and Ravens - 08/06/2010 03:42:52 AM 1512 Views
    The responses of me Napoleon62 - 09/06/2010 02:03:08 AM 1528 Views
    Mine. Darth_Katie - 09/06/2010 08:07:17 PM 1494 Views
    Two new thoughts Artsapat - 08/06/2010 07:48:24 AM 1519 Views
    Re: Two new thoughts Isaac - 09/06/2010 12:02:01 AM 1567 Views
    Re: Two new thoughts Fox and Ravens - 09/06/2010 04:31:06 AM 1503 Views
    Re: Two new thoughts Isaac - 09/06/2010 05:03:10 AM 1428 Views
    Re: Two new thoughts Artsapat - 09/06/2010 12:11:51 PM 1475 Views
    Re: Two new thoughts BlackAdder - 09/06/2010 04:57:02 AM 1530 Views
    In which I spoil everyone's identity! (Well, maybe not) beetnemesis - 09/06/2010 07:34:08 AM 1371 Views
    Whoops, replied to the wrong spot... ignore this one, look below! *NM* beetnemesis - 09/06/2010 07:35:40 AM 895 Views
    Re: Two new thoughts Artsapat - 09/06/2010 12:00:28 PM 1542 Views
    Re: Two new thoughts ranagrande - 09/06/2010 03:26:16 AM 1546 Views
    Oops. Hobo - 09/06/2010 12:28:25 AM 1706 Views
    Whoa, how are we dead already? Kronin al'Sulc - 09/06/2010 03:28:53 AM 1458 Views
    There are still like 5 people left who haven't claimed settings beetnemesis - 09/06/2010 04:19:38 AM 1456 Views
    In which I spoil everyone's identity! (Well, maybe not) beetnemesis - 09/06/2010 07:35:10 AM 1504 Views
    Not sure about the Talic vote, but BlackAdder - 09/06/2010 10:35:25 AM 1494 Views
    Agree Artsapat - 09/06/2010 12:24:47 PM 1518 Views
    Yeah, I'll be participating even less than before. Fanatic-Templar - 09/06/2010 06:10:34 PM 1542 Views
    Re: Yeah, I'll be participating even less than before. Artsapat - 09/06/2010 06:26:08 PM 1481 Views
    Re: Yeah, I'll be participating even less than before. Fanatic-Templar - 09/06/2010 08:53:53 PM 1550 Views
    Eh. Let's just lynch Talic. beetnemesis - 09/06/2010 11:23:16 PM 1483 Views
    Maybe you should explain why you think a 'No Lynch' on Day 1 is always bad Isaac - 10/06/2010 02:05:16 AM 1511 Views
    Do we have any reason to believe that the scum are not a single united faction? *NM* Darth_Katie - 10/06/2010 02:23:11 AM 989 Views
    I'd say so, it's indicated in the intro text and it's been normal of late Isaac - 10/06/2010 02:35:26 AM 1456 Views
    Incidentally... Fanatic-Templar - 10/06/2010 04:24:23 AM 1415 Views
    Agreed. Darth_Katie - 10/06/2010 04:31:26 AM 1437 Views
    But even if that happens Artsapat - 10/06/2010 07:37:45 AM 1460 Views
    Because it is always bad. Seems like the ideal reason. Fanatic-Templar - 10/06/2010 04:21:10 AM 1474 Views
    Thank you. Kronin al'Sulc - 10/06/2010 04:30:23 AM 1502 Views
    Good points. Darth_Katie - 10/06/2010 04:45:24 AM 1631 Views
    Re: Good points. Hobo - 10/06/2010 04:53:22 AM 1487 Views
    Totally. *NM* Darth_Katie - 10/06/2010 04:57:57 AM 936 Views
    Re: Because it is always bad. Seems like the ideal reason. Hobo - 10/06/2010 05:03:15 AM 1513 Views
    We might randomly lynch (or try to lynch) someone who is part of a faction BlackAdder - 10/06/2010 06:37:48 AM 1516 Views
    Yeah, but that isn't a voting record. Hobo - 11/06/2010 04:41:29 AM 1567 Views
    I don't believe in completely random lynches. Fanatic-Templar - 10/06/2010 04:35:42 PM 1565 Views
    I feel like random lynches are a really good place for scum to hide. Darth_Katie - 10/06/2010 06:19:22 PM 1534 Views
    'Seems' isn't 'Is', a dead townie is a dead townie Isaac - 10/06/2010 05:57:19 AM 1432 Views
    Which is pretty much the point. Fanatic-Templar - 10/06/2010 05:39:36 PM 1459 Views
    Re: Which is pretty much the point. Artsapat - 10/06/2010 06:31:40 PM 1570 Views
    Re: Which is pretty much the point. Isaac - 11/06/2010 01:56:41 AM 1552 Views
    Re: Which is pretty much the point. Fanatic-Templar - 11/06/2010 02:18:56 AM 1450 Views
    Re: Which is pretty much the point. Isaac - 11/06/2010 02:35:14 AM 1612 Views
    Re: Which is pretty much the point. Isaac - 11/06/2010 12:58:25 AM 1538 Views
    Incidentally, how likely do you think it is that I am a Darkfriend? Fanatic-Templar - 11/06/2010 01:34:55 AM 1569 Views
    Probably less than random with some caveats, over all, roughly random Isaac - 11/06/2010 02:21:24 AM 1565 Views
    Re: Probably less than random with some caveats, over all, roughly random Fanatic-Templar - 11/06/2010 02:40:33 AM 1592 Views
    I suppose we're back to DefCon 5 Isaac - 11/06/2010 03:36:12 AM 1541 Views
    Re: I suppose we're back to DefCon 5 Fanatic-Templar - 11/06/2010 03:48:31 AM 1504 Views
    Re: I suppose we're back to DefCon 5 Isaac - 11/06/2010 04:08:27 AM 1363 Views
    Well actually technically I am kinda new. *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 12/06/2010 01:22:50 PM 908 Views
    Hmm... I did forget the "main character" thing. Regardless, Talic is Captain Morgan beetnemesis - 09/06/2010 11:25:03 PM 1573 Views
    Whoa, did I put Dark Shadows? Kronin al'Sulc - 09/06/2010 06:22:16 PM 1539 Views
    Yeaaah, I don't think so. Darth_Katie - 09/06/2010 08:13:41 PM 1420 Views
    Update! Darth Katie's analysis: beetnemesis - 09/06/2010 11:20:36 PM 1525 Views
    So sorry guys Blaine - 10/06/2010 06:31:49 AM 1515 Views
    It happens, don't worry about it Isaac - 10/06/2010 06:35:25 AM 1575 Views
    No problem ranagrande - 10/06/2010 04:17:27 PM 1579 Views
    Any chance we can get Gher to replace in? BlackAdder - 10/06/2010 07:30:04 PM 1700 Views
    That would be great if he wanted to ranagrande - 10/06/2010 08:46:55 PM 1533 Views
    Actually... ranagrande - 10/06/2010 08:52:19 PM 1483 Views
    An addition to my Talic accusation beetnemesis - 10/06/2010 08:48:14 AM 1528 Views
    Duffman wouldn't be awesome? Isaac - 10/06/2010 10:31:30 AM 1506 Views
    It was mostly a "slightly better than random" vote beetnemesis - 10/06/2010 04:42:38 PM 1407 Views
    Well, it did raise a good point for approach though Isaac - 11/06/2010 01:05:18 AM 1518 Views
    Oh come on. Fanatic-Templar - 10/06/2010 05:56:54 PM 1568 Views
    I maintain it made sense Isaac - 11/06/2010 02:55:39 AM 1479 Views
    Heading rival Darkfriend factions would've been awesome. Fanatic-Templar - 11/06/2010 03:02:35 AM 1432 Views
    Definitely Isaac - 11/06/2010 03:20:38 AM 1503 Views
    Re: Oh come on. Kylia Skydancer - 12/06/2010 01:56:41 PM 1421 Views
    oh why so serious beet? Yunalesca - 10/06/2010 09:11:03 PM 1475 Views
    ...just watch? beetnemesis - 10/06/2010 11:15:20 PM 1648 Views
    Combined Info (Table) Isaac - 11/06/2010 04:33:01 AM 1578 Views
    The All-Seeing Eye of Sauron is upon you... let the brutal analysis begin Isaac - 11/06/2010 05:16:27 AM 1449 Views
    Hmm ... I think I am working from a different definition of Modern Real Earth. Darth_Katie - 11/06/2010 06:37:04 AM 1462 Views
    Re: Hmm ... I think I am working from a different definition of Modern Real Earth. White Flame of Tar Valon - 11/06/2010 12:50:16 PM 1528 Views
    Works for me. *NM* Darth_Katie - 11/06/2010 02:19:45 PM 875 Views
    Re: The All-Seeing Eye of Sauron is upon you... let the brutal analysis begin Fox and Ravens - 12/06/2010 03:33:37 PM 1597 Views
    You have an acronym fetish, don't you? *NM* beetnemesis - 11/06/2010 09:02:07 AM 977 Views
    You know, just because someone is good or bad in their series, Hobo - 11/06/2010 05:35:04 AM 1532 Views
    Yep, but the individual character will control that I think Isaac - 11/06/2010 05:42:28 AM 1554 Views
    RBIRL for the weekend *NM* White Flame of Tar Valon - 11/06/2010 12:51:17 PM 879 Views
    Me too basically. *NM* Darth_Katie - 11/06/2010 02:24:38 PM 897 Views
    [realy busy in real life] Yunalesca - 12/06/2010 12:41:46 PM 1476 Views
    RBIRL for another effing week. Fox and Ravens - 13/06/2010 01:55:52 AM 1497 Views
    I'm RBIRL this week as well, through Friday. *NM* BlackAdder - 13/06/2010 06:40:04 AM 926 Views
    I am forced to assume Darth_Katie - 13/06/2010 02:46:47 PM 1487 Views
    Oh, and I am semi-RBIRL until Friday too. *NM* Darth_Katie - 13/06/2010 03:00:47 PM 906 Views
    Re: I am forced to assume Fox and Ravens - 15/06/2010 06:44:06 AM 1554 Views
    Well good luck with that too, I guess. Darth_Katie - 15/06/2010 10:29:19 PM 1434 Views
    I'm not busy at all! Let's murder someone! beetnemesis - 13/06/2010 04:06:04 AM 1420 Views
    Re: I'm not busy at all! Let's murder someone! Artsapat - 13/06/2010 02:16:40 PM 1444 Views
    Why Isaac? *NM* Darth_Katie - 13/06/2010 02:47:49 PM 915 Views
    I too, unsurprisingly, would like an answer to that *NM* Isaac - 13/06/2010 05:48:29 PM 885 Views
    Good point. Fanatic-Templar - 13/06/2010 06:20:55 PM 1483 Views
    Eh, do we ever get that much out of Day One? beetnemesis - 13/06/2010 06:46:31 PM 1639 Views
    Kinda. Fanatic-Templar - 13/06/2010 09:16:56 PM 1531 Views
    Actually it's often the most productive day Isaac - 13/06/2010 09:26:25 PM 1474 Views
    Before I basically disappear from this thread for about a week... BlackAdder - 13/06/2010 08:55:03 PM 1577 Views
    Re: Before I basically disappear from this thread for about a week... Hobo - 14/06/2010 02:35:18 AM 1699 Views
    Okay, pushing forward Isaac - 14/06/2010 04:29:20 PM 1748 Views
    Re: Okay, pushing forward Fanatic-Templar - 14/06/2010 06:50:19 PM 1476 Views
    Re: Okay, pushing forward White Flame of Tar Valon - 14/06/2010 10:27:43 PM 1495 Views
    EBWOP White Flame of Tar Valon - 15/06/2010 12:59:20 AM 1795 Views
    Yes it's just day 1 Isaac - 15/06/2010 01:06:56 AM 1508 Views
    Pledge: No; CON: Sure BlackAdder - 15/06/2010 12:31:57 AM 1555 Views
    So... Isaac - 15/06/2010 01:04:11 AM 1509 Views
    If you will allow me to be pedantic. Fanatic-Templar - 15/06/2010 01:24:07 AM 1375 Views
    Duly noted Isaac - 15/06/2010 01:38:34 AM 1430 Views
    Not like they were especially contributive anyway. Fanatic-Templar - 15/06/2010 02:26:34 AM 1426 Views
    Re: So... BlackAdder - 15/06/2010 02:29:41 AM 1499 Views
    Re: So... Isaac - 15/06/2010 07:52:29 AM 1406 Views
    Re: So... Kylia Skydancer - 16/06/2010 06:36:22 PM 1591 Views
    I think scum might be willing to ask some questions. Darth_Katie - 15/06/2010 01:43:57 AM 1450 Views
    Yes, they do BlackAdder - 15/06/2010 02:32:57 AM 1461 Views
    The pledge I am not very enthused about. Darth_Katie - 15/06/2010 01:42:27 AM 1511 Views
    Ok, I just want to say I'm sorry for not posting as much as I normally do Napoleon62 - 15/06/2010 02:52:31 AM 1336 Views
    Okay, now you're just pushing for a No-Lynch in different terms. Kronin al'Sulc - 15/06/2010 04:49:26 AM 1496 Views
    <coughs> Not trying to imply you didn't actually read the post here, but... Isaac - 15/06/2010 07:35:44 AM 1410 Views
    Also... Isaac - 15/06/2010 03:12:18 PM 1552 Views
    Well, the role itself is something you would not expect. Kronin al'Sulc - 15/06/2010 03:36:33 PM 1596 Views
    That's an ambiguous but tantalizing statement... Isaac - 15/06/2010 03:59:29 PM 1608 Views
    BA has a point- townies ALREADY have an incentive to ask questions. Why reward DFs? beetnemesis - 15/06/2010 07:56:04 AM 1472 Views
    my role and char are consistant Yunalesca - 15/06/2010 10:04:51 AM 1499 Views
    Re: my role and char are consistant Isaac - 15/06/2010 03:23:10 PM 1564 Views
    Do you have a suggestion? *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 15/06/2010 06:10:25 PM 891 Views
    On that note... Kylia Skydancer - 16/06/2010 07:02:12 PM 1591 Views
    Seeing hwo you're trying to protect me from getting Lynched Artsapat - 15/06/2010 12:40:27 PM 1430 Views
    Re: Seeing hwo you're trying to protect me from getting Lynched Fox and Ravens - 15/06/2010 04:21:56 PM 1516 Views
    Well, the lengthy posts are for clarity, apparently I wasn't lengthy enough. Isaac - 15/06/2010 05:05:22 PM 1450 Views
    Every vanilla is supposed to say yes. Fanatic-Templar - 15/06/2010 06:13:08 PM 1551 Views
    Which of course brings about the real problem, which is the opposite of what you say. Fanatic-Templar - 15/06/2010 06:26:42 PM 1480 Views
    Let me hold off on answering this, if you don't mind Isaac - 15/06/2010 07:14:25 PM 1464 Views
    Fine, I'm not in a hurry. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 15/06/2010 07:17:10 PM 1017 Views
    Let me run another possible question by you Isaac - 15/06/2010 08:18:33 PM 1494 Views
    By the way, this is sort of a revision of white flame's question Isaac - 15/06/2010 08:21:32 PM 1347 Views
    At first glance, I don't see any problem with it. Fanatic-Templar - 15/06/2010 09:31:44 PM 1534 Views
    Let's go with it then Isaac - 15/06/2010 09:42:32 PM 1552 Views
    Sure. Fanatic-Templar - 15/06/2010 11:28:10 PM 1441 Views
    Re: Sure. Isaac - 15/06/2010 11:45:37 PM 1411 Views
    Ok so I really don't like the idea of the pledge Fox and Ravens - 15/06/2010 04:27:09 PM 1500 Views
    DFs might try to skate through. Darth_Katie - 15/06/2010 10:57:06 PM 1587 Views
    Actually Gender was mine... *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 16/06/2010 06:31:02 PM 858 Views
    Also, yes to con, no to pledge. *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 16/06/2010 07:03:42 PM 929 Views
    The Big Info Compilation v 1.0 (Table) Isaac - 14/06/2010 07:40:38 PM 1673 Views
    to get the game moving Yunalesca - 15/06/2010 08:53:38 PM 1561 Views
    go on... *NM* BlackAdder - 15/06/2010 09:38:13 PM 942 Views
    its day one, do i realy need a reason? *NM* Yunalesca - 15/06/2010 09:56:59 PM 945 Views
    It is customary *NM* Isaac - 15/06/2010 10:01:25 PM 946 Views
    well... Yunalesca - 15/06/2010 11:04:29 PM 1465 Views
    Eh, I think I've been pretty consistent beetnemesis - 16/06/2010 06:35:57 AM 1441 Views
    Yeah, I was a bit wary of the way he leapt on Talic too. Darth_Katie - 16/06/2010 12:51:30 PM 1534 Views
    I actually would think it proves his innocence over anything Fox and Ravens - 17/06/2010 12:18:04 AM 1599 Views
    Next Question Isaac - 15/06/2010 09:56:10 PM 1457 Views
    Seriously Napoleon62 - 15/06/2010 10:58:24 PM 1539 Views
    I am willing to answer if others are willing though *NM* Napoleon62 - 15/06/2010 10:58:44 PM 920 Views
    It's interesting, actually. beetnemesis - 16/06/2010 06:37:41 AM 1564 Views
    Debatable. Darth_Katie - 15/06/2010 11:00:39 PM 1533 Views
    Strong Yes beetnemesis - 16/06/2010 06:38:53 AM 1513 Views
    Didn't you already say you were a manly man? Darth_Katie - 16/06/2010 12:52:57 PM 1499 Views
    Well, he could also be a 'neither' or 'both'. *NM* Fanatic-Templar - 16/06/2010 05:24:26 PM 954 Views
    I am large; I contain multitudes beetnemesis - 16/06/2010 07:48:33 PM 1591 Views
    HGD- No *NM* Yunalesca - 16/06/2010 12:11:28 PM 844 Views
    I find the HDG question vague and polarizing... *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 16/06/2010 07:04:59 PM 942 Views
    HDG- yes White Flame of Tar Valon - 17/06/2010 11:23:18 PM 1487 Views
    Who isn't answering questions (Table) Isaac - 17/06/2010 03:13:58 PM 1448 Views
    oi! Yunalesca - 17/06/2010 07:43:23 PM 1538 Views
    Gotcha, fixed it Isaac - 17/06/2010 07:50:53 PM 1406 Views
    Throw in an oi for me, too beetnemesis - 17/06/2010 11:22:48 PM 1515 Views
    One of my answers Artsapat - 18/06/2010 12:50:15 PM 1455 Views
    It won't be too much longer Isaac - 18/06/2010 05:25:36 PM 1402 Views
    Agreed Artsapat - 18/06/2010 06:39:35 PM 1453 Views
    "It" being my own notes etc, off course *NM* Artsapat - 18/06/2010 06:42:42 PM 919 Views
    Re: Agreed Isaac - 18/06/2010 08:02:02 PM 1689 Views
    Fox is RBIRL until after this weekend ranagrande - 18/06/2010 10:06:26 PM 1721 Views
    HDG: Plead the 5th BlackAdder - 19/06/2010 09:49:08 AM 1565 Views
    No longer RBIRL and will be what I mostly skimmed over in a bit BlackAdder - 19/06/2010 10:00:12 AM 1406 Views
    Technical difficulties... back to RBIRL until fixed *NM* BlackAdder - 20/06/2010 12:28:41 AM 893 Views
    All right, let's do this, I have two people to accuse Isaac - 19/06/2010 08:36:14 PM 1445 Views
    why just FOS? Yunalesca - 19/06/2010 09:48:25 PM 1436 Views
    EBWOP Vote Artsapat Yunalesca - 19/06/2010 09:51:01 PM 1456 Views
    I can't vote for two people at once Isaac - 19/06/2010 10:12:10 PM 1409 Views
    Honestly, I'm in standby at this point. beetnemesis - 20/06/2010 09:31:42 AM 1496 Views
    Just for you Beet, a non-acronym version Isaac - 20/06/2010 05:13:07 PM 1464 Views
    Hah, nice, thanks beetnemesis - 20/06/2010 05:24:15 PM 1502 Views
    Welcome *NM* Isaac - 20/06/2010 05:24:57 PM 899 Views
    Interesting. Darth_Katie - 20/06/2010 01:41:40 AM 1626 Views
    Re: All right, let's do this, I have two people to accuse Fanatic-Templar - 20/06/2010 03:43:46 AM 1541 Views
    Okay, admittedly, I haven't been paying that much attention. Kronin al'Sulc - 20/06/2010 05:55:51 AM 1490 Views
    Re: All right, let's do this, I have two people to accuse Artsapat - 20/06/2010 01:29:43 PM 1536 Views
    Re: All right, let's do this, I have two people to accuse Fanatic-Templar - 20/06/2010 05:47:45 PM 1461 Views
    I'll reply to this in bits, but first: Isaac - 20/06/2010 06:09:26 PM 1509 Views
    Re: I'll reply to this in bits, but first: Artsapat - 20/06/2010 06:44:33 PM 1440 Views
    I just wanted a one word thingy, so people could type it easy Isaac - 20/06/2010 08:15:57 PM 1612 Views
    No Comment *NM* Kylia Skydancer - 22/06/2010 11:34:42 PM 883 Views
    Let me extend you an offer Isaac - 20/06/2010 08:24:11 PM 1573 Views
    A typo-less message implies I'm distracted? How? Kronin al'Sulc - 21/06/2010 04:41:17 AM 1562 Views
    No, you said you were distracted, I said the message looks like you want people to think so Isaac - 21/06/2010 04:52:36 AM 1564 Views
    I thought I did address the accusation. Kronin al'Sulc - 21/06/2010 05:06:41 AM 1468 Views
    See, and I know you're gonna think that was an intentional typo to prove a point. It wasn't, honest Kronin al'Sulc - 21/06/2010 05:09:05 AM 1632 Views
    I'm not really interested in typos one way or another Isaac - 21/06/2010 05:16:19 AM 1550 Views
    I'm a Barbie girl, in a Barbie world. Kronin al'Sulc - 21/06/2010 05:27:27 AM 1535 Views
    And now I'm gonna sleep. I'll get to your questions in the morning. Kronin al'Sulc - 21/06/2010 05:29:08 AM 1489 Views
    Aqua aside, why did you answer UNC for MRE and MCS? Isaac - 21/06/2010 05:35:31 AM 1444 Views
    Re: Aqua aside, why did you answer UNC for MRE and MCS? Kronin al'Sulc - 21/06/2010 02:59:05 PM 1528 Views
    MRE seems to be giving a lot of people trouble *NM* beetnemesis - 21/06/2010 05:40:57 PM 925 Views
    Maybe ask the question again and try to get confirmation? *NM* Artsapat - 21/06/2010 06:47:51 PM 881 Views
    I think UNC is consistent for MRE for Barbie Darth_Katie - 21/06/2010 06:51:13 PM 1503 Views
    For the record, I did eventually change my consistency to a yes. Kronin al'Sulc - 21/06/2010 07:17:09 PM 1494 Views
    Possible, and MCS? Isaac - 21/06/2010 07:21:29 PM 1481 Views
    Yeah, that's also sketchy. Darth_Katie - 21/06/2010 07:28:24 PM 1437 Views
    Re: Yeah, that's also sketchy. Isaac - 21/06/2010 08:03:27 PM 1477 Views
    Kronin's Barbie, but claimed he wasn't a major character? Vote: Kronin beetnemesis - 21/06/2010 11:39:34 PM 1527 Views
    I'd like a roleclaim. Fanatic-Templar - 22/06/2010 12:48:13 AM 1499 Views
    Honestly, looking back, consistency should've been a yes. Kronin al'Sulc - 22/06/2010 01:21:16 AM 1537 Views
    Oh, and don't forget about Arty. Kronin al'Sulc - 22/06/2010 01:21:49 AM 1523 Views
    Each day you can be a different role? That's kind of awesome *NM* beetnemesis - 22/06/2010 07:22:35 AM 926 Views
    Well, I knew it would come down to this, as soon as you pointed a finger to me. Artsapat - 21/06/2010 08:02:42 AM 1457 Views
    Might as well explain my answers then. Artsapat - 21/06/2010 08:52:46 AM 1552 Views
    Re: All right, let's do this, I have two people to accuse Isaac - 20/06/2010 06:37:50 PM 1493 Views
    Re: All right, let's do this, I have two people to accuse Artsapat - 21/06/2010 07:57:59 AM 1571 Views
    Wow, so I suppose these questions can be used in a town friendly way Napoleon62 - 20/06/2010 02:06:15 PM 1531 Views
    Ok, let's avoid the horizontal scroll Napoleon62 - 22/06/2010 01:25:27 AM 1486 Views
    Now, I'm all in favor of lynching Isaac. Kronin al'Sulc - 22/06/2010 01:37:37 AM 1581 Views
    "You lie you die" is sound policy not only Day 1, but every Day. Fanatic-Templar - 22/06/2010 01:40:46 AM 1454 Views
    Vote: Artsapat Fanatic-Templar - 22/06/2010 05:01:31 AM 1386 Views
    Hey, that's a good idea. Vote: Artsapat *NM* Kronin al'Sulc - 22/06/2010 05:18:21 AM 888 Views
    Re: Ok, let's avoid the horizontal scroll White Flame of Tar Valon - 22/06/2010 01:43:07 AM 1449 Views
    I suppose I'll join in Napoleon62 - 22/06/2010 01:45:48 AM 1509 Views
    I'm not gonna deny that I deserve this. Kronin al'Sulc - 22/06/2010 03:24:38 AM 1458 Views
    Fanatic-Templar - 22/06/2010 03:52:33 AM 1487 Views
    Oh man, that was hilarious. Darth_Katie - 22/06/2010 03:54:58 AM 1445 Views
    Re: Ok, let's avoid the horizontal scroll Fox and Ravens - 22/06/2010 04:15:44 AM 1438 Views
    Re: Ok, let's avoid the horizontal scroll Fox and Ravens - 22/06/2010 04:31:27 AM 1460 Views
    Yea! Kill Kronin! Kronin al'Sulc - 22/06/2010 04:56:58 AM 1462 Views
    No offense meant, bro. *NM* Fox and Ravens - 22/06/2010 05:45:22 PM 897 Views
    My answers to the 2 questions asked... Fox and Ravens - 20/06/2010 05:31:22 PM 1428 Views
    Just out of curiosity... Isaac - 20/06/2010 05:57:00 PM 1433 Views
    Re: Just out of curiosity... Fox and Ravens - 20/06/2010 06:42:38 PM 1470 Views
    Vote Table ranagrande - 21/06/2010 08:51:45 PM 1415 Views
    Well, I suppose the sensible thing to do here is lynch Kronin. Darth_Katie - 22/06/2010 04:08:46 AM 1406 Views
    I told you, main character was my bad. Kronin al'Sulc - 22/06/2010 04:20:08 AM 1394 Views
    OK, I'll hammer this Artsapat - 22/06/2010 07:29:38 AM 1396 Views
    Kronin al'Sulc has been lynched ranagrande - 22/06/2010 01:44:22 PM 1525 Views
    a slight delay ranagrande - 25/06/2010 05:55:03 AM 1473 Views
    Re: a slight delay Fox and Ravens - 25/06/2010 07:28:21 AM 1469 Views
    No worries, take your time BlackAdder - 25/06/2010 02:02:58 PM 1446 Views
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