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Yeppers Isaac Send a noteboard - 23/05/2010 04:49:33 AM
Some quick notes from the 'discussion of themes' bit I've been working on.

The doc – BlackAdder's character actually had a small hoard of events that could allow him to be recruited by Talic or DK as day masons (a warder) or by Yunalesca, as both were barking mad, in this last one they would have actually formed a new faction, the Madmen, with Yuna as a full-blown vig/SK and BlackAddder as a doc who was virtually immune to NK. We'll get into that in a bit. We also had Bergioyn able to join the White Tower group by faking to be AS, this event never came up, and the Runaway Novice role, which was rolled into Bergioyn's character during draft, one of the other game options, the RN became a Saldaean Noble and I scrapped the RN aspect in favor of the 'Masquerade' Event.
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The Cairhienen Doctor and The Senior Noble
As I mentioned, these two were sort of twinned, both nuts. Yunalesca was the senior Noble. AS you've seen from the role summaries, Yunalesca was the tie-breaker for SNG NK votes, fox was junior so that he couldn't assassinate his way to full control of a NK. Now, for the SN group, they only had their SNG NK as long as they all lived, at two the had a one-shot NK... so what happened there? Yunalesca, as hinted in her PM, didn't think she killed people, not exactly. The Senior Noble didn't view himself as first among equals, but rather viewed the other two nobles as advisors, and anyone he killed as advisors. For flavor purposes, though not specific mechanics, Yuna sent others to kill those she valued little but invited others of value to her room for tea, so she could convert them with the elixir of true seeing. As long as she had two advisors, one alive, she had the NK, but the other Saldeans would proceed as normal. The need for the split-flavor text – though it was also fun to write, was that once she had a single living and single undead advisor, that other SN could carry out the one-shot NK or Yuna could, but they'd be told it was expended, whereas Yuna herself would keep having NK, she lost it when Bergioyn died, having only 1 NK remaining, which was expended when Gher super-docced her, or rather when DK RB'd her – funny there, DK sent in a RB on Gher a few minutes after I'd sent out the first night action – after the deadline – had that happened Gher would have been RB's from RBing Yuna and Yuna would have killed DK, and with a second kill have remained capable of Nking.

Now, if BlackAdder had docced Yuna or Yuna NK's him, they'd have ended up chatting over tea, and crazy as they were BA would have decided Yuna was the Creator's chosen ruler and Yuna would have decided that BA was the Light's appointed Champion to help him purify the world and they'd have become mason buddies and a whole new faction, potentially able to bring Fistofpainx and Bergioyn in on their side, I hinted at this a bit in one Update while discussing crazy cultists converting people. BA also could have been converted by Talic or DK but those options never arose and aren't as interesting, I may discuss them at some later point.
The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
- Albert Einstein

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For the explanation, read the Dawn 5 message that I received - 23/05/2010 08:46:05 AM 775 Views
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I thought her game was going to be in-character? - 23/05/2010 12:10:26 PM 592 Views
and? - 23/05/2010 12:38:52 PM 649 Views
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I agree. *NM* - 23/05/2010 04:19:07 PM 356 Views
Also Agreed *NM* - 23/05/2010 04:35:18 PM 387 Views
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Fox or ranagrande - 23/05/2010 06:00:00 PM 629 Views
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So, we're going to have two at the same time? - 23/05/2010 07:23:25 PM 644 Views
Possibly - 23/05/2010 07:42:24 PM 708 Views
OK, I'll try - 23/05/2010 08:04:07 PM 588 Views
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Intimidated? *NM* - 25/05/2010 04:56:51 AM 486 Views
You are I think - 23/05/2010 06:09:16 PM 582 Views
Also, what would have happened if I outright claimed to be a male channeler? - 23/05/2010 09:09:28 AM 628 Views
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I lied by omission, but I couldn't see any additional benefit to claiming doc *NM* - 23/05/2010 10:58:05 PM 421 Views
You claimed that Ranagrande had to be bulletproof because nobody protected him. *NM* - 24/05/2010 04:44:48 AM 407 Views
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Your message indicates it wasn't the sole reason he survived... - 24/05/2010 06:40:29 AM 558 Views
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my reason for the nth time - 23/05/2010 06:54:27 PM 720 Views
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Great game. - 23/05/2010 09:58:18 PM 561 Views
Thank-you to All and Especially Isaac. - 24/05/2010 09:07:35 PM 570 Views
Re: Thank-you to All and Especially Isaac. - 24/05/2010 10:19:08 PM 728 Views
RP Mafia game getting way this friday btw. - 25/05/2010 05:03:47 AM 560 Views

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