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Yeppers Isaac Send a noteboard - 23/05/2010 04:49:33 AM
Some quick notes from the 'discussion of themes' bit I've been working on.

The doc – BlackAdder's character actually had a small hoard of events that could allow him to be recruited by Talic or DK as day masons (a warder) or by Yunalesca, as both were barking mad, in this last one they would have actually formed a new faction, the Madmen, with Yuna as a full-blown vig/SK and BlackAddder as a doc who was virtually immune to NK. We'll get into that in a bit. We also had Bergioyn able to join the White Tower group by faking to be AS, this event never came up, and the Runaway Novice role, which was rolled into Bergioyn's character during draft, one of the other game options, the RN became a Saldaean Noble and I scrapped the RN aspect in favor of the 'Masquerade' Event.
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The Cairhienen Doctor and The Senior Noble
As I mentioned, these two were sort of twinned, both nuts. Yunalesca was the senior Noble. AS you've seen from the role summaries, Yunalesca was the tie-breaker for SNG NK votes, fox was junior so that he couldn't assassinate his way to full control of a NK. Now, for the SN group, they only had their SNG NK as long as they all lived, at two the had a one-shot NK... so what happened there? Yunalesca, as hinted in her PM, didn't think she killed people, not exactly. The Senior Noble didn't view himself as first among equals, but rather viewed the other two nobles as advisors, and anyone he killed as advisors. For flavor purposes, though not specific mechanics, Yuna sent others to kill those she valued little but invited others of value to her room for tea, so she could convert them with the elixir of true seeing. As long as she had two advisors, one alive, she had the NK, but the other Saldeans would proceed as normal. The need for the split-flavor text – though it was also fun to write, was that once she had a single living and single undead advisor, that other SN could carry out the one-shot NK or Yuna could, but they'd be told it was expended, whereas Yuna herself would keep having NK, she lost it when Bergioyn died, having only 1 NK remaining, which was expended when Gher super-docced her, or rather when DK RB'd her – funny there, DK sent in a RB on Gher a few minutes after I'd sent out the first night action – after the deadline – had that happened Gher would have been RB's from RBing Yuna and Yuna would have killed DK, and with a second kill have remained capable of Nking.

Now, if BlackAdder had docced Yuna or Yuna NK's him, they'd have ended up chatting over tea, and crazy as they were BA would have decided Yuna was the Creator's chosen ruler and Yuna would have decided that BA was the Light's appointed Champion to help him purify the world and they'd have become mason buddies and a whole new faction, potentially able to bring Fistofpainx and Bergioyn in on their side, I hinted at this a bit in one Update while discussing crazy cultists converting people. BA also could have been converted by Talic or DK but those options never arose and aren't as interesting, I may discuss them at some later point.
The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift.
- Albert Einstein

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Just use a VotF Doctrine - 24/05/2010 05:46:05 AM 1075 Views
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It's useful too. - 24/05/2010 07:11:00 AM 747 Views
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Yeah it was close *NM* - 23/05/2010 01:40:47 AM 511 Views
You certainly blindsided me! - 23/05/2010 01:50:25 AM 822 Views
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Crap, really? Shoulda killed beet! - 23/05/2010 03:30:40 AM 814 Views
I knew I should have listened to my instincts! - 23/05/2010 01:53:50 AM 781 Views
Yes, I was. - 23/05/2010 03:37:43 AM 872 Views
Yes he did... - 23/05/2010 01:44:28 PM 666 Views
Great game! - 23/05/2010 01:42:19 AM 762 Views
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This was in my opinion definitely the best game thus far! *NM* - 23/05/2010 03:21:30 AM 485 Views
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Sheesh. Awesome game, guys. And well done, Isaac - 23/05/2010 01:57:04 AM 826 Views
The second explosion - 23/05/2010 02:14:35 AM 711 Views
For the explanation, read the Dawn 5 message that I received - 23/05/2010 08:46:05 AM 857 Views
How'd you guess it was Kronin? *NM* - 23/05/2010 09:48:23 AM 654 Views
Because neither you nor rana would have killed me - 23/05/2010 11:05:13 PM 753 Views
I was the one outside WF's balcony - 23/05/2010 01:47:12 PM 838 Views
I'd been wondering... - 23/05/2010 04:31:02 AM 788 Views
Yeppers - 23/05/2010 04:49:33 AM 820 Views
I also imagine there was a potential for friction between BlackAdder and Ranagrande. - 23/05/2010 05:20:17 AM 696 Views
Yep, and your first character and Gher - 23/05/2010 05:26:47 AM 726 Views
Ignore this, its in the wrong spot. *NM* - 23/05/2010 11:11:52 PM 443 Views
The unopposed champion for "Longest RAFO Post Ever" - 23/05/2010 04:45:27 AM 736 Views
Gotta say I was really pissed at myself - 23/05/2010 04:58:12 AM 787 Views
Hey, I'm pretty proud of myself for my use of Science! - 23/05/2010 05:22:04 AM 675 Views
Even with your immense failure.... - 23/05/2010 05:47:22 AM 794 Views
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Hm. - 23/05/2010 06:18:38 AM 801 Views
To Evil! - 23/05/2010 11:15:08 PM 757 Views
I really regret not bussing you. - 23/05/2010 11:14:07 PM 662 Views
I was pretty proud of that list - 24/05/2010 06:51:10 AM 673 Views
So who's running the next one? - 23/05/2010 06:49:08 AM 659 Views
kylia skydancer is *NM* - 23/05/2010 10:13:49 AM 403 Views
I thought her game was going to be in-character? - 23/05/2010 12:10:26 PM 662 Views
and? - 23/05/2010 12:38:52 PM 715 Views
Nah, there aren't a whole lot of people for Divya's - 23/05/2010 02:02:01 PM 713 Views
I agree. *NM* - 23/05/2010 04:19:07 PM 392 Views
Also Agreed *NM* - 23/05/2010 04:35:18 PM 418 Views
Alright, so whoever was next in line, open up a Sign-up. - 23/05/2010 05:16:52 PM 642 Views
Fox or ranagrande - 23/05/2010 06:00:00 PM 708 Views
Yeah, it will be ranagrande to mod - 23/05/2010 06:07:47 PM 699 Views
So, we're going to have two at the same time? - 23/05/2010 07:23:25 PM 722 Views
Possibly - 23/05/2010 07:42:24 PM 774 Views
OK, I'll try - 23/05/2010 08:04:07 PM 632 Views
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Intimidated? *NM* - 25/05/2010 04:56:51 AM 518 Views
You are I think - 23/05/2010 06:09:16 PM 654 Views
Also, what would have happened if I outright claimed to be a male channeler? - 23/05/2010 09:09:28 AM 700 Views
It became a bit easier to lynch you - 23/05/2010 10:35:33 AM 733 Views
So Yuna, can you NOW explaine what went wrong with your flavor claim? - 23/05/2010 01:53:24 PM 692 Views
The number of Lightsiders who lied or allowed others to lie this game is staggering. *NM* - 23/05/2010 06:44:45 PM 443 Views
I agree - 23/05/2010 06:47:46 PM 736 Views
I lied by omission, but I couldn't see any additional benefit to claiming doc *NM* - 23/05/2010 10:58:05 PM 457 Views
You claimed that Ranagrande had to be bulletproof because nobody protected him. *NM* - 24/05/2010 04:44:48 AM 457 Views
Well yes, but it was because I knew my protection wasn't the reason he survived. - 24/05/2010 05:30:03 AM 663 Views
Your message indicates it wasn't the sole reason he survived... - 24/05/2010 06:40:29 AM 627 Views
I think that's a good question for Isaac - 24/05/2010 07:18:31 AM 664 Views
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Oh, okay, your conclusion was perfectly valid then. - 24/05/2010 07:12:57 PM 878 Views
Even I didn't lie. It's weird. *NM* - 24/05/2010 07:05:55 AM 391 Views
We really need to lynch all liars. - 24/05/2010 01:20:56 PM 802 Views
Re: We really need to lynch all liars. - 25/05/2010 04:19:51 AM 648 Views
Then they shouldn't roleclaim at all. - 25/05/2010 04:27:39 AM 881 Views
Sadly, silence can then be assumed as an assention to guilt (i.e., "I'm a doc/cop" ). - 25/05/2010 05:21:04 AM 754 Views
Well, I pretty much never roleclaim, and I get around fine . *NM* - 25/05/2010 05:24:19 AM 384 Views
Re: Then they shouldn't roleclaim at all. - 25/05/2010 05:24:54 AM 773 Views
Yep. - 25/05/2010 05:33:16 AM 726 Views
Re: Yep. - 25/05/2010 06:38:10 AM 752 Views
No, lying is almost always antitown. - 25/05/2010 06:47:29 AM 717 Views
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my reason for the nth time - 23/05/2010 06:54:27 PM 790 Views
By the way DF's, what made me so good looking target that I got killed on night 2? *NM* - 23/05/2010 04:25:38 PM 355 Views
The DFs didn't kill you as a group - 23/05/2010 04:41:09 PM 682 Views
That was it. - 23/05/2010 05:15:51 PM 665 Views
I thought you were going to add 'decapitator' to your signature after the game *NM* - 23/05/2010 07:28:02 PM 416 Views
I think he should. It would be great way to indicate notable succes in such a risky business! *NM* - 23/05/2010 07:38:26 PM 372 Views
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Think how much better Planeteers would have been... *NM* - 24/05/2010 06:59:06 AM 460 Views
Makes sense. *NM* - 23/05/2010 07:37:33 PM 365 Views
Q for Gher - 23/05/2010 06:57:33 PM 657 Views
Well... - 23/05/2010 09:56:23 PM 828 Views
We didn't need to go after her. - 24/05/2010 04:08:04 AM 665 Views
Well yeah, but I didn't know that. *NM* - 25/05/2010 05:50:05 AM 415 Views
Yeah, we had this whole contingency plan figured out - 24/05/2010 07:02:11 AM 725 Views
I thought - 24/05/2010 07:29:40 AM 804 Views
The Unofficial Mod Criteria and Waiting List (Table) - 23/05/2010 07:01:30 PM 1035 Views
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Rip away - 24/05/2010 06:10:42 AM 741 Views
Well, given the position you were all in when I left... - 24/05/2010 06:35:18 AM 731 Views
Re: Well, given the position you were all in when I left... - 24/05/2010 07:10:46 AM 785 Views
Yeah, but Kronin is one of the players who is still interested . - 24/05/2010 07:16:01 AM 681 Views
If Napoleon isn't still in... - 24/05/2010 03:38:57 PM 623 Views
I'm still interested! - 24/05/2010 01:16:26 PM 763 Views
I'd like to add myself to the back of the queue, actually. - 23/05/2010 11:53:18 PM 664 Views
Re: The Unofficial Mod Criteria and Waiting List - 24/05/2010 03:34:50 AM 651 Views
Re: The Unofficial Mod Criteria and Waiting List - 24/05/2010 06:13:43 AM 809 Views
Just for clarification... - 24/05/2010 07:05:28 AM 728 Views
Re: Just for clarification... - 24/05/2010 07:08:48 AM 691 Views
Great game. - 23/05/2010 09:58:18 PM 630 Views
Thank-you to All and Especially Isaac. - 24/05/2010 09:07:35 PM 641 Views
Re: Thank-you to All and Especially Isaac. - 24/05/2010 10:19:08 PM 795 Views
RP Mafia game getting way this friday btw. - 25/05/2010 05:03:47 AM 600 Views

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