Everything he's said can be gathered from other sources, and the simple fact that he claims to have watched WF last night but, had no knowledge of him being in my room is pretty suspicioius.
Vote: Artsapat
There're just too many inconsistencies.
Vote: Artsapat
There're just too many inconsistencies.
RAFO Mafia 16, Day 3: In the Manor of Mad Muad (Ended)
25/04/2010 10:53:09 PM
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General Info from the Moderator: Update 23
26/04/2010 01:25:44 AM
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Yeesh.
26/04/2010 02:00:15 AM
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There is a hint that there are multiple Aes Sedai
26/04/2010 02:13:59 AM
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Anyone who he knew was an Aes Sedai.
26/04/2010 02:27:58 AM
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Oh, that's true. Well, still a hint there are multiple Aes Sedai.
26/04/2010 02:30:40 AM
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Not necessarily.
26/04/2010 03:03:03 AM
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Hm. Well, OK. This told us a lot.
26/04/2010 02:09:30 AM
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Off to See How to Train Your Dragon- I expect big things when I return! *NM*
26/04/2010 02:14:36 AM
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Oh, and: The Salds are, of cours, Yunalesca and one other person, I'm guessing
26/04/2010 02:15:55 AM
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Yunalesa is the only other claimed Saldaean
26/04/2010 02:22:27 AM
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Eh, they're Masons
26/04/2010 05:40:20 AM
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Also, regarding the Chair role
26/04/2010 02:27:43 AM
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Someone has a double vote?
26/04/2010 02:47:11 AM
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Yes, at the end of yesterday
26/04/2010 03:33:32 AM
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You're forgetting a couple
26/04/2010 03:37:59 AM
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BlackAdder is correct, with a minor correlary
26/04/2010 05:46:29 AM
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Why not Talic? *NM*
26/04/2010 06:08:14 AM
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Eh. Newbie Tinker from the White Tower
26/04/2010 06:28:30 AM
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Roles are distributed randomly. *NM*
26/04/2010 06:32:59 AM
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Sez who?
26/04/2010 06:36:20 AM
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Yes. *NM*
26/04/2010 06:55:42 AM
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Er... where? I just searched, but maybe I'm missing something
26/04/2010 07:06:44 AM
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He said it in the first game he modded, which I think is lost to Wotmania.
26/04/2010 07:21:18 AM
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Mmm. OK, it's possible. I remain unconvinced, though- we'll ask Isaac after the game ends *NM*
26/04/2010 07:43:37 AM
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Random with a Caveat
26/04/2010 03:43:29 PM
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Why would Shienarans have political clout?
26/04/2010 06:16:16 AM
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We're in Shienar, aren't we?
26/04/2010 06:17:55 AM
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Saldaea.
26/04/2010 06:19:19 AM
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Dammit. Hm. Well, I suppose that does make him less likely, though not impossible
26/04/2010 06:25:30 AM
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You can't change your vote anyway. *NM*
26/04/2010 05:30:56 PM
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Oh, right. Well, OK. Everyone: Vote beetnemesis for Chair! A vote for beet is a vote for... um
26/04/2010 05:39:15 PM
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Oh, there's another reason people should vote for me (and Gher):
26/04/2010 10:19:34 PM
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Re: Oh, there's another reason people should vote for me (and Gher):
26/04/2010 10:29:35 PM
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Same benefit as every other Day.
26/04/2010 03:08:59 AM
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I do object
26/04/2010 03:43:34 AM
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Mod clarification
26/04/2010 02:37:52 AM
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I doubt it.
26/04/2010 02:39:16 AM
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Re: I doubt it.
26/04/2010 03:24:27 AM
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EBWOP: i.e. literally means "that is"
26/04/2010 03:43:32 AM
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Yeah, that makes me nervous too.
26/04/2010 02:46:19 AM
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Probably he just copy-pasted from Fox's role message
.
26/04/2010 03:09:44 AM
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It's my understanding that the Mod almighty does not make mistakes
*NM*
26/04/2010 03:44:43 AM
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He does, not many thankfully, which requires a lot of triple-checking
26/04/2010 04:10:17 AM
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Wait, so you're saying that wasn't a mistake?
26/04/2010 06:26:15 AM
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Isaac's changed it to "e.g." Berg. could not vote with the Darkfriends. *NM*
26/04/2010 05:30:25 PM
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some thoughts on the double NK
26/04/2010 03:04:29 AM
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Re: some thoughts on the double NK
26/04/2010 04:09:00 AM
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Yeah, I don't think who ever's making the extra kills is pro-town.
26/04/2010 04:15:12 AM
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Hey, glad the Darkfriends didn't decide to 'finish the job' last night
.
26/04/2010 03:20:48 AM
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Re: Hey, glad the Darkfriends didn't decide to 'finish the job' last night
.
26/04/2010 03:55:00 AM
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Yuna (and George) didn't vote for Fox because they were part of the Saldaean Group. Others may be DF
26/04/2010 06:14:48 AM
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Why just me and Katie?
26/04/2010 01:13:40 PM
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Something else: fistofpainx and BlackAdder are very likely innocent
26/04/2010 06:17:38 AM
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Hypocop Table- Night 2 [Table]
26/04/2010 06:42:46 AM
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I found White Flame of Tar Valon to be innocent. *NM*
26/04/2010 05:56:39 PM
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Really? The dead guy? Some cop you are
*NM*
26/04/2010 06:07:04 PM
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The cop wouldn't have known last Night that White Flame would end up dead.
26/04/2010 06:16:05 PM
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Also, dead guys probably have a slightly higher chance of being hypocopped.
26/04/2010 06:22:59 PM
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kay so, here's what i know
26/04/2010 03:42:19 PM
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That is... incredibly disappointing.
26/04/2010 05:49:25 PM
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right, everything i know then
26/04/2010 08:49:17 PM
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so who did you choose to kill Nights 1 and 2? *NM*
26/04/2010 08:56:45 PM
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Re: so who did you choose to kill Nights 1 and 2?
26/04/2010 09:20:41 PM
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So you can both channel?
26/04/2010 09:43:44 PM
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i can't channel
26/04/2010 09:49:54 PM
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Hmm
26/04/2010 10:14:06 PM
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No real reasons for killing
27/04/2010 01:01:37 AM
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EBWOP: There was supposed to be a question mark on that title. *NM*
27/04/2010 01:21:45 AM
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Great! Thanks. OK, so that's our vig.
26/04/2010 10:14:03 PM
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Re: Great! Thanks. OK, so that's our vig.
26/04/2010 10:17:21 PM
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Yes, it really does matter
26/04/2010 10:22:10 PM
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As a matter of fact...
26/04/2010 10:46:01 PM
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EBWOP: Notice how what Isaac says doesn't mean Fox was telling the truth about not being George. *NM*
26/04/2010 10:47:32 PM
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I remain suspicious of you.
26/04/2010 10:44:59 PM
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To be fair... people ALWAYS kill Hobo
26/04/2010 10:54:14 PM
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I'd rather not discount warranted suspicions because someone can offer plausible justification.
27/04/2010 01:02:50 AM
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Why did neither you nor Bergioyn speak up when Fox claimed vanilla? *NM*
27/04/2010 01:41:35 AM
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i don't know why Ber didn't
27/04/2010 12:10:47 PM
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Well, you knew he was lying, then. Why not vote him? *NM*
27/04/2010 07:09:55 PM
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because i thought he was simply lying about being a mason
27/04/2010 08:27:00 PM
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It would have been dumb of you to lynch a known liar?
27/04/2010 08:32:15 PM
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oh come on!
27/04/2010 10:38:35 PM
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The first night message I sent him...
28/04/2010 03:15:29 AM
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Wrong game
29/04/2010 07:25:23 AM
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He was also lying about being a 'vigilante'
27/04/2010 09:28:58 PM
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She would have outed herself and Bergioyn.
27/04/2010 09:40:24 PM
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I, for one, STRONGLY doubt that Yuna is a DF
27/04/2010 11:27:25 PM
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I also don't think she is in league with Fox et al.
28/04/2010 01:00:56 AM
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The same thing happened with Blaine, though
28/04/2010 01:51:53 AM
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I'll venture a guess as to what happened...
28/04/2010 02:34:50 AM
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Re: I'll venture a guess as to what happened...
28/04/2010 03:04:43 AM
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Wow, that one post helped a lot! I hope this convinces the Yuna-haters
28/04/2010 06:59:12 AM
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Re: Wow, that one post helped a lot! I hope this convinces the Yuna-haters
28/04/2010 04:26:43 PM
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Re: Wow, that one post helped a lot! I hope this convinces the Yuna-haters
28/04/2010 04:47:56 PM
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Do you know the specifics of how White Flame's power worked? *NM*
28/04/2010 05:08:18 PM
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Re: Wow, that one post helped a lot! I hope this convinces the Yuna-haters
28/04/2010 06:11:27 PM
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Yes, I would.
28/04/2010 03:21:19 AM
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Advocate Vote: Gher
26/04/2010 05:59:16 PM
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Vote for Ranagrande for Chair
26/04/2010 06:36:04 PM
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A few questions:
26/04/2010 06:14:48 PM
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Honestly, it's because I wasn't convinced. Isaac's deadline forced my hand
26/04/2010 06:51:24 PM
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I didn't see Fox as all that suspicious.
26/04/2010 08:36:44 PM
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And you were willing to risk a no-lynch?
26/04/2010 10:46:31 PM
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I honestly did not think that far ahead.
27/04/2010 12:59:40 AM
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But you didn't offer any real alternatives, or try and persuade us to leave Fox alone.
27/04/2010 05:05:44 AM
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I stuck to my principles, and that's that.
27/04/2010 12:30:36 PM
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Because killing is good for the town
27/04/2010 04:55:54 PM
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The question was rhetorical.
27/04/2010 05:05:18 PM
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"I honestly did not think that far ahead." <-------- This is pretty much the same excuse Fox used.
27/04/2010 05:57:34 PM
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I've answered this multiple times. I'm not going to bother again.
27/04/2010 06:14:29 PM
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Your answer just doesn't jive.
28/04/2010 02:01:24 AM
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. . . .
26/04/2010 10:20:09 PM
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A Vigilante is a Serial Killer that only tries to kill DFs
26/04/2010 10:27:04 PM
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Isn't a vig protown?
26/04/2010 10:34:59 PM
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You know, I'm not sure. Can the town win with the SK still alive? *NM*
26/04/2010 10:40:36 PM
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They win with town, but they're not always good for the town. *NM*
26/04/2010 10:43:15 PM
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All right.
26/04/2010 10:51:42 PM
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Re: All right.
26/04/2010 10:58:44 PM
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to be perfectly honest
27/04/2010 05:02:07 AM
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Well of course! If people don't vote, a lynch isn't going to happen.
*NM*
27/04/2010 05:07:32 AM
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Also, Blackadder, I'm not too happy that you skipped hypocopping yesterday.
27/04/2010 05:02:50 AM
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Re: Also, Blackadder, I'm not too happy that you skipped hypocopping yesterday.
27/04/2010 09:01:12 AM
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I just realized something...
27/04/2010 05:57:37 PM
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Wow, spot on
27/04/2010 07:06:36 PM
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Interesting angle.
27/04/2010 07:47:28 PM
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Re: Interesting angle.
27/04/2010 09:24:42 PM
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That idea is actually very plausible. However...
27/04/2010 09:57:46 PM
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I'm back
01/05/2010 02:39:07 PM
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I have no idea what's going on with George.
01/05/2010 04:21:16 PM
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Again, I say! Vote for beetnemesis- and maybe we'll get an Event!
27/04/2010 06:46:12 PM
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You might want to specify that you're asking for a Chair vote.
27/04/2010 07:04:27 PM
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Ahem. Right. CHAIR Vote for me!
28/04/2010 01:53:14 AM
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Advocate Vote: Gher
29/04/2010 01:46:14 AM
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It's the thought that counts. Well, sort of.
29/04/2010 01:48:56 AM
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In my defense, you are anti-vegetable *NM*
29/04/2010 01:59:25 AM
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Also, worst-case scenario...
29/04/2010 02:40:50 AM
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The Event will be that Gher and I magnify each others' power and become as unto GODS
29/04/2010 06:37:42 AM
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But yeah, I think I need one more vote- hey, quiet types! Chair Vote me!
29/04/2010 06:40:38 AM
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So, do we know... ANYTHING about Darth Katie?
27/04/2010 06:59:04 PM
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Yunalesca:
28/04/2010 01:58:28 AM
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Also:
28/04/2010 02:29:29 AM
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yes to several *NM*
28/04/2010 11:25:56 AM
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EBWOP
28/04/2010 11:27:53 AM
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More questions:
28/04/2010 03:52:20 PM
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Re: More answers
28/04/2010 07:40:27 PM
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You still haven't answered the most important one.
29/04/2010 01:06:47 AM
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Guys! 5 minutes left!
30/04/2010 01:55:36 AM
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Re: Guys! 5 minutes left!
30/04/2010 03:44:40 AM
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Looks right to me. Oh, well. At least now I can start accusing people
30/04/2010 04:34:51 AM
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So, here's the post I was going to make a couple days ago, before I decided to wait for Lunch
30/04/2010 10:24:56 PM
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I think you're right about Artsapat
01/05/2010 02:44:24 PM
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Re: So, here's the post I was going to make a couple days ago, before I decided to wait for Lunch
02/05/2010 12:32:54 PM
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EBWOP: I just saw that Black DID hypocop Today. I missed it when I glanced up. *NM*
02/05/2010 12:36:56 PM
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Oh, and Yuna: Do you have a night kill every night?
30/04/2010 10:26:52 PM
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Re: Oh, and Yuna: Do you have a night kill every night?
30/04/2010 10:52:27 PM
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by the way
02/05/2010 06:32:44 AM
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it should be obvious
02/05/2010 06:40:32 PM
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Before we lynch anyone today
02/05/2010 09:57:25 PM
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That's fine, but it might be wise to take contingencies into account.
03/05/2010 03:02:10 AM
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Any suggestions? I can't see any contingencies for lynching Arty *NM*
03/05/2010 03:42:06 AM
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Definitely
03/05/2010 05:07:02 AM
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Right, so Artsapat:
03/05/2010 04:50:04 PM
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I still have no idea why we're supposed to trust Yunalesca now. *NM*
03/05/2010 07:17:39 PM
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Pretty much everything we've seen has confirmed her claims.
03/05/2010 08:39:16 PM
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None of those claims were the reason she's suspicious.
03/05/2010 09:08:13 PM
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Re: None of those claims were the reason she's suspicious.
04/05/2010 09:12:16 PM
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Not to mention that it's common for Darkfriends to accuse each other to divert suspicion.
04/05/2010 09:23:14 PM
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so what exactly makes artspat a good choice?
04/05/2010 12:26:12 AM
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Well, here's my summary:
04/05/2010 02:00:16 AM
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All right, I'll come clean
04/05/2010 08:21:36 AM
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You couldn't have seen him dozing in a chair in his room. He spent the Night in Talic's room.
04/05/2010 03:38:40 PM
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No idea about the timing of my Night message.
04/05/2010 03:52:26 PM
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How long were you outside White Flame's window? *NM*
04/05/2010 05:09:24 PM
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No idea. Sorry
04/05/2010 07:49:36 PM
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...This is kind of weird
05/05/2010 01:58:26 AM
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He said he saw Bergioyn do it, unless I completely misread what he wrote.
05/05/2010 03:47:02 AM
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Nope- you misread. Both Arty and Lunch #3 tell us that the Watcher didn't see the killer
05/05/2010 04:26:25 AM
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The thing that makes me suspicious:
05/05/2010 12:02:27 PM
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That's true... Hey! Did anyone else Watch White Flame (or track Berg)? If so, we could use your help
05/05/2010 06:31:05 PM
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Re: ...This is kind of weird
05/05/2010 11:31:47 AM
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So... you're saying that you heard Bergioyn die, just as he killed White Flame? *NM*
05/05/2010 06:27:32 PM
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Well, just for curiosity's sake, I went back and re-read my Dawn message
05/05/2010 09:29:36 PM
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Re: Well, just for curiosity's sake, I went back and re-read my Dawn message
06/05/2010 12:16:16 AM
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Well, tbh, even that was stated by Isaac in the opening scene *NM*
05/05/2010 09:38:45 PM
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^^^btw, that post is not actually an *NM* but I can't edit it *NM*
05/05/2010 09:40:35 PM
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This was basically what I was getting at
05/05/2010 11:36:07 PM
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Re: This was basically what I was getting at
06/05/2010 12:06:52 AM
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According to the Day Message, the scream was White Flame...
06/05/2010 02:34:41 AM
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I'm curious- what's the flavor of your role?
04/05/2010 05:50:04 PM
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Re: I'm curious- what's the flavor of your role?
04/05/2010 07:59:35 PM
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Job security... so who are you working for?
05/05/2010 12:15:23 AM
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I am unable to do anything at all, every single night. *NM*
05/05/2010 01:36:57 AM
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I think there was a role last game Isaac hosted that couldn't use their powers on consecutive nights
05/05/2010 01:47:38 AM
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Re: All right, I'll come clean
04/05/2010 09:30:29 PM
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Some answers
05/05/2010 12:43:49 PM
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Vote: Artsapat
05/05/2010 02:08:06 PM
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Re: Vote: Artsapat
05/05/2010 02:21:59 PM
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Er... what evidence? You said that all you saw was White Flame was killed
05/05/2010 06:22:03 PM
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Hmmm. . .
04/05/2010 09:30:27 AM
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So you do have a bite
04/05/2010 12:09:35 PM
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Re: So you do have a bite
05/05/2010 03:54:03 AM
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Eh. Roles are good... but what have they gotten us so far?
05/05/2010 04:30:23 AM
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Yes, but having such a severe vote restriction, and no other powers as a townie, would suck. *NM*
05/05/2010 09:25:05 PM
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Isaac I'm just going to ignore Update 21 because it makes my head hurt *NM*
04/05/2010 01:52:02 AM
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Ok, so Artsapat, your story isn't totally adding up
06/05/2010 01:57:09 AM
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Again...
06/05/2010 02:02:49 AM
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Yeah this is what I'm thinking as well
06/05/2010 02:44:59 AM
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Yeah, a Watcher role that doesn't actually get any results?
06/05/2010 02:38:11 AM
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He's actually a Watcher/Tracker apparently.
06/05/2010 02:44:20 AM
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To all the people voting Artsapat
06/05/2010 03:56:15 AM
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^^^i.e., Amys, ranagrande, Talic, Kronin al'Sulc (I think that means L-2 with a VNTL of 6) *NM*
06/05/2010 04:02:23 AM
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L-1, Ranagrande is Chair.
06/05/2010 04:35:44 AM
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So he's a Watcher/Tracker that doesn't actually get any results? How is that better?
*NM*
06/05/2010 04:17:47 AM
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Eh. Sorry Arty, but the evidence has stacked up. Yuna, remember to kill DK
06/05/2010 04:13:38 AM
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Twilight - Artsapat has been Lynched
06/05/2010 04:50:35 AM
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Nicely played by the way, well done Artsapat
06/05/2010 05:51:21 AM
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Whoa you guys are still playing? Sweet. I totally forgot about this. *NM*
07/05/2010 09:40:26 PM
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