So, I just arrived this morning from the night boat from Harwich, and am now on solidEuropean soil again. With internet access. I have been reading down through most of the posts, but have not read everything yet. I will try to finish it tonight (my 21-month old is just coming down to demand attention) and then post some updates of my thoughts and ideas. And answer the questions that were asked of me.
Just a few points: I did not abstain yesterday, I voted BlackAdder. I thought he looked suspicious, and just jumping on Ynua with a vote with only a little (and my feelings from Day 1 and 2 that he protected Fo does not help clearing his name in my opinion.
I can tell you though: it sucks to go away for a short while in this group/context/flavor heavy game. I have real trouble keeping up with all the info. Will do my best, though, to get another DF with our next Lynch.
Also, I approve of the use of "George". I do not approve of you not having found the person behind this menacing figure in my absence. (As far as I can tell)
Just a few points: I did not abstain yesterday, I voted BlackAdder. I thought he looked suspicious, and just jumping on Ynua with a vote with only a little (and my feelings from Day 1 and 2 that he protected Fo does not help clearing his name in my opinion.
I can tell you though: it sucks to go away for a short while in this group/context/flavor heavy game. I have real trouble keeping up with all the info. Will do my best, though, to get another DF with our next Lynch.
Also, I approve of the use of "George". I do not approve of you not having found the person behind this menacing figure in my absence. (As far as I can tell)
The mystery deepens... I think. *MySmiley*
RAFO Mafia 16, Day 3: In the Manor of Mad Muad (Ended)
25/04/2010 10:53:09 PM
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General Info from the Moderator: Update 23
26/04/2010 01:25:44 AM
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Yeesh.
26/04/2010 02:00:15 AM
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There is a hint that there are multiple Aes Sedai
26/04/2010 02:13:59 AM
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Anyone who he knew was an Aes Sedai.
26/04/2010 02:27:58 AM
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Oh, that's true. Well, still a hint there are multiple Aes Sedai.
26/04/2010 02:30:40 AM
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Not necessarily.
26/04/2010 03:03:03 AM
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Hm. Well, OK. This told us a lot.
26/04/2010 02:09:30 AM
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Off to See How to Train Your Dragon- I expect big things when I return! *NM*
26/04/2010 02:14:36 AM
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Oh, and: The Salds are, of cours, Yunalesca and one other person, I'm guessing
26/04/2010 02:15:55 AM
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Yunalesa is the only other claimed Saldaean
26/04/2010 02:22:27 AM
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Eh, they're Masons
26/04/2010 05:40:20 AM
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Also, regarding the Chair role
26/04/2010 02:27:43 AM
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Someone has a double vote?
26/04/2010 02:47:11 AM
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Yes, at the end of yesterday
26/04/2010 03:33:32 AM
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You're forgetting a couple
26/04/2010 03:37:59 AM
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BlackAdder is correct, with a minor correlary
26/04/2010 05:46:29 AM
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Why not Talic? *NM*
26/04/2010 06:08:14 AM
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Eh. Newbie Tinker from the White Tower
26/04/2010 06:28:30 AM
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Roles are distributed randomly. *NM*
26/04/2010 06:32:59 AM
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Sez who?
26/04/2010 06:36:20 AM
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Yes. *NM*
26/04/2010 06:55:42 AM
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Er... where? I just searched, but maybe I'm missing something
26/04/2010 07:06:44 AM
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He said it in the first game he modded, which I think is lost to Wotmania.
26/04/2010 07:21:18 AM
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Mmm. OK, it's possible. I remain unconvinced, though- we'll ask Isaac after the game ends *NM*
26/04/2010 07:43:37 AM
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Random with a Caveat
26/04/2010 03:43:29 PM
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Why would Shienarans have political clout?
26/04/2010 06:16:16 AM
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We're in Shienar, aren't we?
26/04/2010 06:17:55 AM
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Saldaea.
26/04/2010 06:19:19 AM
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Dammit. Hm. Well, I suppose that does make him less likely, though not impossible
26/04/2010 06:25:30 AM
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You can't change your vote anyway. *NM*
26/04/2010 05:30:56 PM
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Oh, right. Well, OK. Everyone: Vote beetnemesis for Chair! A vote for beet is a vote for... um
26/04/2010 05:39:15 PM
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Oh, there's another reason people should vote for me (and Gher):
26/04/2010 10:19:34 PM
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Re: Oh, there's another reason people should vote for me (and Gher):
26/04/2010 10:29:35 PM
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Same benefit as every other Day.
26/04/2010 03:08:59 AM
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I do object
26/04/2010 03:43:34 AM
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Mod clarification
26/04/2010 02:37:52 AM
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I doubt it.
26/04/2010 02:39:16 AM
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Re: I doubt it.
26/04/2010 03:24:27 AM
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EBWOP: i.e. literally means "that is"
26/04/2010 03:43:32 AM
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Yeah, that makes me nervous too.
26/04/2010 02:46:19 AM
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Probably he just copy-pasted from Fox's role message .
26/04/2010 03:09:44 AM
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It's my understanding that the Mod almighty does not make mistakes *NM*
26/04/2010 03:44:43 AM
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He does, not many thankfully, which requires a lot of triple-checking
26/04/2010 04:10:17 AM
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Wait, so you're saying that wasn't a mistake?
26/04/2010 06:26:15 AM
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Isaac's changed it to "e.g." Berg. could not vote with the Darkfriends. *NM*
26/04/2010 05:30:25 PM
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some thoughts on the double NK
26/04/2010 03:04:29 AM
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Re: some thoughts on the double NK
26/04/2010 04:09:00 AM
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Yeah, I don't think who ever's making the extra kills is pro-town.
26/04/2010 04:15:12 AM
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Hey, glad the Darkfriends didn't decide to 'finish the job' last night .
26/04/2010 03:20:48 AM
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Re: Hey, glad the Darkfriends didn't decide to 'finish the job' last night .
26/04/2010 03:55:00 AM
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Yuna (and George) didn't vote for Fox because they were part of the Saldaean Group. Others may be DF
26/04/2010 06:14:48 AM
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Why just me and Katie?
26/04/2010 01:13:40 PM
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Something else: fistofpainx and BlackAdder are very likely innocent
26/04/2010 06:17:38 AM
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Hypocop Table- Night 2 [Table]
26/04/2010 06:42:46 AM
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I found White Flame of Tar Valon to be innocent. *NM*
26/04/2010 05:56:39 PM
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Really? The dead guy? Some cop you are *NM*
26/04/2010 06:07:04 PM
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The cop wouldn't have known last Night that White Flame would end up dead.
26/04/2010 06:16:05 PM
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Also, dead guys probably have a slightly higher chance of being hypocopped.
26/04/2010 06:22:59 PM
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kay so, here's what i know
26/04/2010 03:42:19 PM
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That is... incredibly disappointing.
26/04/2010 05:49:25 PM
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right, everything i know then
26/04/2010 08:49:17 PM
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so who did you choose to kill Nights 1 and 2? *NM*
26/04/2010 08:56:45 PM
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Re: so who did you choose to kill Nights 1 and 2?
26/04/2010 09:20:41 PM
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So you can both channel?
26/04/2010 09:43:44 PM
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i can't channel
26/04/2010 09:49:54 PM
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Hmm
26/04/2010 10:14:06 PM
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No real reasons for killing
27/04/2010 01:01:37 AM
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EBWOP: There was supposed to be a question mark on that title. *NM*
27/04/2010 01:21:45 AM
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Great! Thanks. OK, so that's our vig.
26/04/2010 10:14:03 PM
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Re: Great! Thanks. OK, so that's our vig.
26/04/2010 10:17:21 PM
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Yes, it really does matter
26/04/2010 10:22:10 PM
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As a matter of fact...
26/04/2010 10:46:01 PM
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EBWOP: Notice how what Isaac says doesn't mean Fox was telling the truth about not being George. *NM*
26/04/2010 10:47:32 PM
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I remain suspicious of you.
26/04/2010 10:44:59 PM
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To be fair... people ALWAYS kill Hobo
26/04/2010 10:54:14 PM
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I'd rather not discount warranted suspicions because someone can offer plausible justification.
27/04/2010 01:02:50 AM
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Why did neither you nor Bergioyn speak up when Fox claimed vanilla? *NM*
27/04/2010 01:41:35 AM
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i don't know why Ber didn't
27/04/2010 12:10:47 PM
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Well, you knew he was lying, then. Why not vote him? *NM*
27/04/2010 07:09:55 PM
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because i thought he was simply lying about being a mason
27/04/2010 08:27:00 PM
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It would have been dumb of you to lynch a known liar?
27/04/2010 08:32:15 PM
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oh come on!
27/04/2010 10:38:35 PM
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The first night message I sent him...
28/04/2010 03:15:29 AM
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Wrong game
29/04/2010 07:25:23 AM
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He was also lying about being a 'vigilante'
27/04/2010 09:28:58 PM
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She would have outed herself and Bergioyn.
27/04/2010 09:40:24 PM
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I, for one, STRONGLY doubt that Yuna is a DF
27/04/2010 11:27:25 PM
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I also don't think she is in league with Fox et al.
28/04/2010 01:00:56 AM
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The same thing happened with Blaine, though
28/04/2010 01:51:53 AM
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I'll venture a guess as to what happened...
28/04/2010 02:34:50 AM
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Re: I'll venture a guess as to what happened...
28/04/2010 03:04:43 AM
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Wow, that one post helped a lot! I hope this convinces the Yuna-haters
28/04/2010 06:59:12 AM
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Re: Wow, that one post helped a lot! I hope this convinces the Yuna-haters
28/04/2010 04:26:43 PM
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Re: Wow, that one post helped a lot! I hope this convinces the Yuna-haters
28/04/2010 04:47:56 PM
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Do you know the specifics of how White Flame's power worked? *NM*
28/04/2010 05:08:18 PM
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Re: Wow, that one post helped a lot! I hope this convinces the Yuna-haters
28/04/2010 06:11:27 PM
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Yes, I would.
28/04/2010 03:21:19 AM
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Advocate Vote: Gher
26/04/2010 05:59:16 PM
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Vote for Ranagrande for Chair
26/04/2010 06:36:04 PM
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A few questions:
26/04/2010 06:14:48 PM
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Honestly, it's because I wasn't convinced. Isaac's deadline forced my hand
26/04/2010 06:51:24 PM
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I didn't see Fox as all that suspicious.
26/04/2010 08:36:44 PM
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And you were willing to risk a no-lynch?
26/04/2010 10:46:31 PM
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I honestly did not think that far ahead.
27/04/2010 12:59:40 AM
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But you didn't offer any real alternatives, or try and persuade us to leave Fox alone.
27/04/2010 05:05:44 AM
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I stuck to my principles, and that's that.
27/04/2010 12:30:36 PM
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Because killing is good for the town
27/04/2010 04:55:54 PM
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The question was rhetorical.
27/04/2010 05:05:18 PM
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"I honestly did not think that far ahead." <-------- This is pretty much the same excuse Fox used.
27/04/2010 05:57:34 PM
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I've answered this multiple times. I'm not going to bother again.
27/04/2010 06:14:29 PM
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Your answer just doesn't jive.
28/04/2010 02:01:24 AM
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. . . .
26/04/2010 10:20:09 PM
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A Vigilante is a Serial Killer that only tries to kill DFs
26/04/2010 10:27:04 PM
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Isn't a vig protown?
26/04/2010 10:34:59 PM
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You know, I'm not sure. Can the town win with the SK still alive? *NM*
26/04/2010 10:40:36 PM
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They win with town, but they're not always good for the town. *NM*
26/04/2010 10:43:15 PM
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All right.
26/04/2010 10:51:42 PM
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Re: All right.
26/04/2010 10:58:44 PM
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to be perfectly honest
27/04/2010 05:02:07 AM
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Well of course! If people don't vote, a lynch isn't going to happen. *NM*
27/04/2010 05:07:32 AM
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Also, Blackadder, I'm not too happy that you skipped hypocopping yesterday.
27/04/2010 05:02:50 AM
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Re: Also, Blackadder, I'm not too happy that you skipped hypocopping yesterday.
27/04/2010 09:01:12 AM
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I just realized something...
27/04/2010 05:57:37 PM
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Wow, spot on
27/04/2010 07:06:36 PM
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Interesting angle.
27/04/2010 07:47:28 PM
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Re: Interesting angle.
27/04/2010 09:24:42 PM
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That idea is actually very plausible. However...
27/04/2010 09:57:46 PM
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I'm back
01/05/2010 02:35:43 PM
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I'm back
01/05/2010 02:39:07 PM
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I have no idea what's going on with George.
01/05/2010 04:21:16 PM
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Again, I say! Vote for beetnemesis- and maybe we'll get an Event!
27/04/2010 06:46:12 PM
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You might want to specify that you're asking for a Chair vote.
27/04/2010 07:04:27 PM
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Ahem. Right. CHAIR Vote for me!
28/04/2010 01:53:14 AM
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Advocate Vote: Gher
29/04/2010 01:46:14 AM
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It's the thought that counts. Well, sort of.
29/04/2010 01:48:56 AM
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In my defense, you are anti-vegetable *NM*
29/04/2010 01:59:25 AM
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Also, worst-case scenario...
29/04/2010 02:40:50 AM
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The Event will be that Gher and I magnify each others' power and become as unto GODS
29/04/2010 06:37:42 AM
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But yeah, I think I need one more vote- hey, quiet types! Chair Vote me!
29/04/2010 06:40:38 AM
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So, do we know... ANYTHING about Darth Katie?
27/04/2010 06:59:04 PM
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Yunalesca:
28/04/2010 01:58:28 AM
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Also:
28/04/2010 02:29:29 AM
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yes to several *NM*
28/04/2010 11:25:56 AM
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EBWOP
28/04/2010 11:27:53 AM
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More questions:
28/04/2010 03:52:20 PM
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Re: More answers
28/04/2010 07:40:27 PM
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You still haven't answered the most important one.
29/04/2010 01:06:47 AM
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Guys! 5 minutes left!
30/04/2010 01:55:36 AM
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Re: Guys! 5 minutes left!
30/04/2010 03:44:40 AM
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Looks right to me. Oh, well. At least now I can start accusing people
30/04/2010 04:34:51 AM
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So, here's the post I was going to make a couple days ago, before I decided to wait for Lunch
30/04/2010 10:24:56 PM
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I think you're right about Artsapat
01/05/2010 02:44:24 PM
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Re: So, here's the post I was going to make a couple days ago, before I decided to wait for Lunch
02/05/2010 12:32:54 PM
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EBWOP: I just saw that Black DID hypocop Today. I missed it when I glanced up. *NM*
02/05/2010 12:36:56 PM
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Oh, and Yuna: Do you have a night kill every night?
30/04/2010 10:26:52 PM
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Re: Oh, and Yuna: Do you have a night kill every night?
30/04/2010 10:52:27 PM
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by the way
02/05/2010 06:32:44 AM
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it should be obvious
02/05/2010 06:40:32 PM
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Before we lynch anyone today
02/05/2010 09:57:25 PM
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That's fine, but it might be wise to take contingencies into account.
03/05/2010 03:02:10 AM
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Any suggestions? I can't see any contingencies for lynching Arty *NM*
03/05/2010 03:42:06 AM
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Definitely
03/05/2010 05:07:02 AM
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Right, so Artsapat:
03/05/2010 04:50:04 PM
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I still have no idea why we're supposed to trust Yunalesca now. *NM*
03/05/2010 07:17:39 PM
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Pretty much everything we've seen has confirmed her claims.
03/05/2010 08:39:16 PM
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None of those claims were the reason she's suspicious.
03/05/2010 09:08:13 PM
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Re: None of those claims were the reason she's suspicious.
04/05/2010 09:12:16 PM
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Not to mention that it's common for Darkfriends to accuse each other to divert suspicion.
04/05/2010 09:23:14 PM
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so what exactly makes artspat a good choice?
04/05/2010 12:26:12 AM
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Well, here's my summary:
04/05/2010 02:00:16 AM
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All right, I'll come clean
04/05/2010 08:21:36 AM
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You couldn't have seen him dozing in a chair in his room. He spent the Night in Talic's room.
04/05/2010 03:38:40 PM
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No idea about the timing of my Night message.
04/05/2010 03:52:26 PM
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How long were you outside White Flame's window? *NM*
04/05/2010 05:09:24 PM
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No idea. Sorry
04/05/2010 07:49:36 PM
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...This is kind of weird
05/05/2010 01:58:26 AM
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He said he saw Bergioyn do it, unless I completely misread what he wrote.
05/05/2010 03:47:02 AM
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Nope- you misread. Both Arty and Lunch #3 tell us that the Watcher didn't see the killer
05/05/2010 04:26:25 AM
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The thing that makes me suspicious:
05/05/2010 12:02:27 PM
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That's true... Hey! Did anyone else Watch White Flame (or track Berg)? If so, we could use your help
05/05/2010 06:31:05 PM
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Re: ...This is kind of weird
05/05/2010 11:31:47 AM
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So... you're saying that you heard Bergioyn die, just as he killed White Flame? *NM*
05/05/2010 06:27:32 PM
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Well, just for curiosity's sake, I went back and re-read my Dawn message
05/05/2010 09:29:36 PM
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Re: Well, just for curiosity's sake, I went back and re-read my Dawn message
06/05/2010 12:16:16 AM
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Well, tbh, even that was stated by Isaac in the opening scene *NM*
05/05/2010 09:38:45 PM
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^^^btw, that post is not actually an *NM* but I can't edit it *NM*
05/05/2010 09:40:35 PM
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This was basically what I was getting at
05/05/2010 11:36:07 PM
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Re: This was basically what I was getting at
06/05/2010 12:06:52 AM
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According to the Day Message, the scream was White Flame...
06/05/2010 02:34:41 AM
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I'm curious- what's the flavor of your role?
04/05/2010 05:50:04 PM
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Re: I'm curious- what's the flavor of your role?
04/05/2010 07:59:35 PM
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Job security... so who are you working for?
05/05/2010 12:15:23 AM
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I am unable to do anything at all, every single night. *NM*
05/05/2010 01:36:57 AM
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I think there was a role last game Isaac hosted that couldn't use their powers on consecutive nights
05/05/2010 01:47:38 AM
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Re: All right, I'll come clean
04/05/2010 09:30:29 PM
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Some answers
05/05/2010 12:43:49 PM
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Vote: Artsapat
05/05/2010 02:08:06 PM
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Re: Vote: Artsapat
05/05/2010 02:21:59 PM
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Er... what evidence? You said that all you saw was White Flame was killed
05/05/2010 06:22:03 PM
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Hmmm. . .
04/05/2010 09:30:27 AM
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So you do have a bite
04/05/2010 12:09:35 PM
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Re: So you do have a bite
05/05/2010 03:54:03 AM
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Eh. Roles are good... but what have they gotten us so far?
05/05/2010 04:30:23 AM
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Yes, but having such a severe vote restriction, and no other powers as a townie, would suck. *NM*
05/05/2010 09:25:05 PM
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Isaac I'm just going to ignore Update 21 because it makes my head hurt *NM*
04/05/2010 01:52:02 AM
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Ok, so Artsapat, your story isn't totally adding up
06/05/2010 01:57:09 AM
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Yeah, a Watcher role that doesn't actually get any results?
06/05/2010 02:38:11 AM
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He's actually a Watcher/Tracker apparently.
06/05/2010 02:44:20 AM
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To all the people voting Artsapat
06/05/2010 03:56:15 AM
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^^^i.e., Amys, ranagrande, Talic, Kronin al'Sulc (I think that means L-2 with a VNTL of 6) *NM*
06/05/2010 04:02:23 AM
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L-1, Ranagrande is Chair.
06/05/2010 04:35:44 AM
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So he's a Watcher/Tracker that doesn't actually get any results? How is that better? *NM*
06/05/2010 04:17:47 AM
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Eh. Sorry Arty, but the evidence has stacked up. Yuna, remember to kill DK
06/05/2010 04:13:38 AM
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Twilight - Artsapat has been Lynched
06/05/2010 04:50:35 AM
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Nicely played by the way, well done Artsapat
06/05/2010 05:51:21 AM
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Whoa you guys are still playing? Sweet. I totally forgot about this. *NM*
07/05/2010 09:40:26 PM
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