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Assuming that Tom does indeed possess proof that the current president of the USA was personally bribed by foreign companies, you find it 'ridiculous' and 'insulting' to suggest that he should provide such proof to competent law enforcement because maybe some things are bigger than his attorney-client privilege? Is this because of your 'all politicians are corrupt so we should just let them get away with everything' theories again?
Assuming that Tom does indeed possess proof that the current president of the USA was personally bribed by foreign companies, you find it 'ridiculous' and 'insulting' to suggest that he should provide such proof to competent law enforcement because maybe some things are bigger than his attorney-client privilege? Is this because of your 'all politicians are corrupt so we should just let them get away with everything' theories again?
While I'm not going to make any judgements on whether, ignoring laws, a lawyer in Tom's position should violate attorney-client privilege in order to share important information that would incriminate their attorneys, I will say that the privilege is essentially ironclad in positions like this.
So the question is then "should a lawyer violate a promise he has made to his clients, with the understanding that the attorney-client relationship undergirds basically the entire legal system and that he will be almost certainly be disbarred for the violation?"
I don't think it's ridiculous or insulting to say that he should, but I also think you're underselling the importance of confidentiality.
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No Fucks Left to Give Joe tosses Hunter a blanket pardon
- 02/12/2024 09:23:33 PM
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I think if he hadn't said he wouldn't pardon his son, then this would be a non-issue.
- 03/12/2024 12:53:15 PM
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Re: I think if he hadn't said he wouldn't pardon his son, then this would be a non-issue.
- 03/12/2024 01:32:17 PM
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I don't agree with that - it would've been a serious issue still.
- 03/12/2024 05:56:18 PM
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How about this?
- 04/12/2024 03:43:52 AM
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I don't believe he'd been sentenced for those crimes, yet, had he?
- 04/12/2024 07:14:04 AM
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Per 'old news', his sentencing dates were Dec 12 for the gun charge and 16 for tax evasion
- 04/12/2024 01:30:11 PM
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Trump was already going to pardon all the J6 defendants, though.
- 04/12/2024 07:18:56 AM
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Re: Trump was already going to pardon all the J6 defendants, though.
- 04/12/2024 02:07:41 PM
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Ugh, I hate this 'they're all the same' rhetoric.
- 04/12/2024 09:22:38 PM
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I respectfully disagree.
- 04/12/2024 11:09:07 PM
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Seems like we're kind of talking past each other here.
- 05/12/2024 11:39:02 PM
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Trump had quite a few successes in his first term
- 06/12/2024 02:45:32 PM
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You mean his administration and Congress had those successes.
- 06/12/2024 10:12:25 PM
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No, I mean him. *NM*
- 07/12/2024 12:38:27 AM
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Okay, then I guess we're not debating it, as you like. *NM*
- 07/12/2024 08:54:03 AM
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The achievements of the administration are attributed to the President.
- 08/12/2024 10:50:43 AM
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Some people also think the earth is flat.
- 08/12/2024 06:29:37 PM
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Le sigh
- 08/12/2024 09:03:01 PM
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Make up your mind already.
- 08/12/2024 10:30:11 PM
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I listed his/the administration's achievements. What is there to debate?
- 08/12/2024 11:03:15 PM
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Debate tends to involve a back and forth, not just one side stating their views. 
- 09/12/2024 05:58:22 PM
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- 09/12/2024 05:58:22 PM
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Re: You mean his administration and Congress had those successes.
- 09/12/2024 04:28:58 AM
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That, and way overpromise on what can actually be achieved by cracking down on China.
- 09/12/2024 05:12:49 PM
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Re: That, and way overpromise on what can actually be achieved by cracking down on China.
- 10/12/2024 06:55:27 PM
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Hm. It doesn't seem like we disagree that much on the 'true partnerships' then.
- 10/12/2024 07:52:39 PM
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Re: Hm. It doesn't seem like we disagree that much on the 'true partnerships' then.
- 10/12/2024 10:46:13 PM
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I see what you're saying, but I think that approach only works in the short term
- 10/12/2024 11:54:59 PM
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Re: I see what you're saying, but I think that approach only works in the short term
- 11/12/2024 04:11:09 AM
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I mostly agree, with one giant caveat
- 05/12/2024 02:56:02 PM
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We've been over this - some of this is true, some is, at a minimum, not proven that I ever saw.
- 05/12/2024 11:18:24 PM
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I know it was factually true
- 06/12/2024 12:46:44 AM
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Sounds like you need to become a whistleblower and go talk to the FBI yourself, then?
- 06/12/2024 11:37:00 AM
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Typically, whistle blower and attorney client privilege are not viewed as compatible.
- 06/12/2024 03:57:12 PM
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I have a clearance
- 06/12/2024 05:01:07 PM
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Re: I have a clearance
- 06/12/2024 08:08:50 PM
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Seriously?
- 06/12/2024 10:28:07 PM
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I can't believe I'm siding with Tom here
- 07/12/2024 01:50:15 AM
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- 07/12/2024 01:50:15 AM
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I guess you kinda have to with your profession.
- 07/12/2024 07:46:01 PM
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- 07/12/2024 07:46:01 PM
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You're CLEARLY a Harris plant
- 06/12/2024 01:07:07 AM
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Hah, you got me!
- 06/12/2024 11:49:19 AM
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Re: Hah, you got me!
- 07/12/2024 04:52:06 AM
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It's true that both parties have contributed to the decline of political norms/courtesies, yes.
- 07/12/2024 09:42:18 PM
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Re: It's true that both parties have contributed to the decline of political norms/courtesies, yes.
- 10/12/2024 11:18:52 AM
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