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We have reached a rather bizarre point in the culture wars, it seems. Legolas Send a noteboard - 02/08/2024 09:47:40 AM

A far right politician like Giorgia Meloni - as Angela Carini, the woman who lost to Khelif, is Italian - actually had a more nuanced and reasonable take (“From my point of view, this was not an equal competition. I think that athletes who have male genetic characteristics should not participate in women’s competitions. Not because we want to discriminate against anyone, but to protect the rights of female athletes to compete on equal terms.”) than for instance JK Rowling or the official United Nations rapporteur on violence against women and girls (who for some reason felt she had to weigh in).

I also loved the dry comment in Politico's article about the controversy and the more hysterical reactions: 'Boxers, need it be said, are supposed to punch each other very hard.'


View original postI still don't have an opinion on how trans people or intersex people should compete in sports, but she is not trans. She is not tricking anyone. She is trying to be the person she has always been. She's owed sympathy, regardless of whether you think she should be competing or not.

The weird thing in this case is that the general Olympic position is, we leave these decisions up to the respective international associations of every sport because they are the best placed to judge at which point you get really unfair advantages, which testosterone limit there should be, etc. But then for some reason, Khelif had been denied entry in the world championships as a woman but was accepted at the Olympics, so the boxing association is saying, as far as we're concerned she shouldn't be there... then who decided in the end?

But yes, same for her as for Semenya, they just do the best they can with the body they have, like any other athlete.

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