in 2016, for instance, Hillary won the popular vote nationwide by 2.9 million votes. She won the popular vote in California by 4.3 million votes. None of which did her any good, except rhetorically.
But also the link below, which (I haven't read his post yet) I assume Greg is also making this point.
In particular, in one of the comments at my link:
For all its quirks and weirdness, the American electoral system maybe gives Republicans a 10% advantage at converting votes to seats. The French have ~75% advantages for some parties and the British just cracked ~130%.
I've made this point to you before (that the system(s) in Europe are even worse at getting to 'the person who gets the most votes wins the election'
but maybe that's not your actual complaint?
Hollywood has the best moral compass, because it has compassion.
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When the NYT Editorial Board calls for the incumbent President to step down...
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Re: Now the Biden campaign is calling the people who are sounding these alarms 'bedwetters'
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Re: Now the Biden campaign is calling the people who are sounding these alarms 'bedwetters'
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That term has been used for months if not years, they didn't just make it up...
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Right, but since Joe (and Donald) probably both wear adult diapers...
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Re: Right, but since Joe (and Donald) probably both wear adult diapers...
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Honestly, the word's been used so much it's an established term by now. Don't think they invented it
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How can you say this with a straight face?
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Very easily, I assure you - though there's a difference between 'did' (past) and 'would' (future)
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Re: Very easily, I assure you
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Re: You make a good point about the popular vote.
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This is the part that bothers me as well.
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Your analogy is pretty poor honestly.
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You also are trying to redefine how the score is kept
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Re: FPTP sucks in general, yes, whether in the US, in France, or elsewhere.
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Re: You're still looking at it from the current two-party system framework.
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The popular vote is the popular vote - one citizen, one vote, wherever they may live.
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