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Sure, but does it even matter at this point? Vodalus Send a noteboard - 20/10/2023 05:58:32 PM

View original postFor example, some of the strongest support on the Republican side comes from evangelicals who believe this confrontation in the Middle East is part of the end of days with God on the side of Israel.

The Christian Zionists simply want to pave the way for the Parousia. After that they expect/want the Israelis to literally go to Hell. The Israelis, for their part, are only all too happy to take the money and political support provided by the evangelicals, all the while laughing at such nonsensical religious ideas. The cynicism is impressive.


View original postLikewise a lot of the support for the Palestinians from Democrats has to do with the critical theory mindset that the world is divided into two camps, the oppressed and their oppressors. In this worldview Israel, like the US, is a colonizing oppressor.

I don’t believe in that Critical Theory shit, but to say that the people living in the open-air prison that is Gaza, where roughly half the population is under the age of 18 (i.e., didn’t vote for Hamas) and yet are subject to collective punishment sounds an awful lot like oppression to me. What’s more, how can anyone think such conditions will produce anything other than some pretty fucked up people capable of doing really fucked up things? Subject any people to such conditions - whether Palestinians, Chinese, Americans or whoever - and I bet the outcome wouldn’t differ much.


View original postSaying it's all about Bibi is a little simplistic. Bibi is vulnerable once this ends. Israel has a track record of ousting leaders on whose watch successful attacks take place. See Golda Meir.

Well, let’s see once the Bibisitter is gone, if he does indeed get the boot. There are real advantages to not being a dick, but Bibi’s calculated assholery usually works well for him. Probably less so for others, though.

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I find it interesting, but sadly not a bit surprising... damookster - 19/10/2023 05:24:33 PM 388 Views
Is that right? aerocontrols - 19/10/2023 05:43:12 PM 149 Views
Re: Is that right? damookster - 19/10/2023 06:02:40 PM 141 Views
That's certainly what I'm seeing here, yes. Legolas - 19/10/2023 06:15:05 PM 168 Views
And Hamas' recording The Shrike - 20/10/2023 02:44:12 PM 118 Views
I do not know about the Hospital Roland00 - 19/10/2023 06:15:55 PM 151 Views
Schools, mosques, refugee camps, and at least one hospital were hit with airstrikes prior to this. Vodalus - 19/10/2023 09:54:15 PM 142 Views
The WSJ is reporting Saint Porphyrius church, a famous orthodox church was blasted Roland00 - 19/10/2023 10:52:58 PM 135 Views
Congressman (fmr) Justin Amash lost family members in this Church bombing, link Roland00 - 21/10/2023 05:58:11 AM 113 Views
Hospitals have external oxygen tanks and the blast was in the parking lot. damookster - 19/10/2023 10:55:58 PM 120 Views
If all of that is true, and I’m not saying it isn’t, how are 500-plus 200-plus dead? Vodalus - 19/10/2023 11:11:11 PM 136 Views
The current US intelligence estimate is 100-300 dead leaning towards the lower figure. damookster - 19/10/2023 11:34:25 PM 107 Views
The Palestinians are pretty shameless in their propaganda. Dragonsoul - 20/10/2023 03:17:43 AM 147 Views
I wish Israel had bombed that hospital, and done so intentionally. AgentApple - 20/10/2023 01:46:49 PM 140 Views
I feel for you, my friend damookster - 20/10/2023 02:47:31 PM 120 Views
Ummm AgentApple - 20/10/2023 07:30:05 PM 150 Views
People believe what their taught anti-Semitism teaches them to believe. The Shrike - 20/10/2023 02:39:19 PM 142 Views
What is amazing is how opinions here have split by party affiliation. damookster - 20/10/2023 02:53:41 PM 127 Views
There is absolutely nothing amazing about it. Vodalus - 20/10/2023 03:17:27 PM 138 Views
I believe there's a little more to it than that. damookster - 20/10/2023 03:46:24 PM 151 Views
Sure, but does it even matter at this point? Vodalus - 20/10/2023 05:58:32 PM 174 Views
Never forget The Shrike - 20/10/2023 06:16:25 PM 131 Views
Go fuck yourself Roland00 - 20/10/2023 06:43:41 PM 121 Views
Piss off Roland damookster - 20/10/2023 07:25:18 PM 115 Views
I am cursing Greg for he is one man Roland00 - 20/10/2023 07:35:01 PM 133 Views
Actually I know that Israel has a right to exist and its people have a right to the land. The Shrike - 20/10/2023 07:38:31 PM 123 Views
greg you are putting words into my mouth Roland00 - 20/10/2023 07:44:06 PM 127 Views
Seriously Mookie listen to yourself Roland00 - 20/10/2023 07:39:27 PM 134 Views
Re: Seriously Mookie listen to yourself damookster - 20/10/2023 07:45:42 PM 150 Views
Found the anti-semite. The Shrike - 20/10/2023 07:30:25 PM 127 Views
I was born failed Roland00 - 20/10/2023 07:32:41 PM 120 Views
Sweetie darling, The Shrike - 20/10/2023 07:39:42 PM 143 Views
you are the one who is keep on bringing dionysus and the world spirit into this. You are mad *NM* Roland00 - 20/10/2023 07:44:55 PM 70 Views
You think you're unique? damookster - 20/10/2023 07:40:24 PM 122 Views
So people who are 14 in Gaza, where are they supposed to go? Roland00 - 20/10/2023 07:45:41 PM 104 Views
Ask the surrounding Arab countries, for once. *NM* damookster - 20/10/2023 07:47:13 PM 61 Views
And who killed a former president of Egypt? It was before the 14 year olds birth Roland00 - 20/10/2023 07:52:23 PM 126 Views
If you're referencing Sadat, he was killed by a fellow Egyptian damookster - 20/10/2023 08:12:35 PM 141 Views
Yes I am referencing Sadat Roland00 - 20/10/2023 08:51:35 PM 107 Views
Re: Never forget Vodalus - 20/10/2023 07:09:51 PM 143 Views
One thing to note The Shrike - 20/10/2023 07:35:10 PM 125 Views
Sadly, Jordan doesn't want them, any more than Egypt. *NM* damookster - 20/10/2023 07:49:16 PM 65 Views
Re: One thing to note Vodalus - 20/10/2023 07:51:48 PM 156 Views
Or maybe its lies spread on campuses over the past 30 years The Shrike - 20/10/2023 05:24:11 PM 122 Views
Both, and more. Vodalus - 20/10/2023 06:00:49 PM 139 Views
People believe what fits best with the ongoing narrative. Legolas - 20/10/2023 03:51:31 PM 147 Views
The first assumption that the IDF and US are obviously lying is the issue. *NM* damookster - 20/10/2023 04:07:29 PM 76 Views
All plays in the wider geopolitical war going on here The Shrike - 20/10/2023 05:32:15 PM 119 Views
The larger pattern The Shrike - 20/10/2023 05:29:56 PM 135 Views
I agree 100% damookster - 20/10/2023 05:45:08 PM 121 Views
Nice to see the board alive again, even for just one day. *NM* damookster - 20/10/2023 08:18:27 PM 73 Views
The blood always pumps due to cursed things, that or drink - *NM* Roland00 - 20/10/2023 08:40:49 PM 58 Views
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