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And Hamas' recording The Shrike Send a noteboard - 20/10/2023 02:44:12 PM

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Though to be honest I'm not sure the IDF's word on it made much of a difference, given their equally obvious incentives to lie - it was the US weighing in, plus various independent sources analysing publicly available data more in depth, that swung opinion.

But the point was that news outlets in the West immediately took the word of the Gazans in accusing Israel. Now the narrative is that Israel has to show it didn't rather than the narrative starting with We Dont Know Who or How.

And of course this plays right into Hamas' propaganda aims since the Arab leaders with Biden were cancelled as a result.

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I find it interesting, but sadly not a bit surprising... damookster - 19/10/2023 05:24:33 PM 430 Views
Is that right? aerocontrols - 19/10/2023 05:43:12 PM 186 Views
Re: Is that right? damookster - 19/10/2023 06:02:40 PM 168 Views
That's certainly what I'm seeing here, yes. Legolas - 19/10/2023 06:15:05 PM 209 Views
And Hamas' recording The Shrike - 20/10/2023 02:44:12 PM 155 Views
I do not know about the Hospital Roland00 - 19/10/2023 06:15:55 PM 191 Views
Schools, mosques, refugee camps, and at least one hospital were hit with airstrikes prior to this. Vodalus - 19/10/2023 09:54:15 PM 172 Views
The WSJ is reporting Saint Porphyrius church, a famous orthodox church was blasted Roland00 - 19/10/2023 10:52:58 PM 162 Views
Congressman (fmr) Justin Amash lost family members in this Church bombing, link Roland00 - 21/10/2023 05:58:11 AM 145 Views
Hospitals have external oxygen tanks and the blast was in the parking lot. damookster - 19/10/2023 10:55:58 PM 159 Views
If all of that is true, and I’m not saying it isn’t, how are 500-plus 200-plus dead? Vodalus - 19/10/2023 11:11:11 PM 171 Views
The current US intelligence estimate is 100-300 dead leaning towards the lower figure. damookster - 19/10/2023 11:34:25 PM 145 Views
The Palestinians are pretty shameless in their propaganda. Dragonsoul - 20/10/2023 03:17:43 AM 184 Views
I wish Israel had bombed that hospital, and done so intentionally. AgentApple - 20/10/2023 01:46:49 PM 175 Views
I feel for you, my friend damookster - 20/10/2023 02:47:31 PM 154 Views
Ummm AgentApple - 20/10/2023 07:30:05 PM 181 Views
People believe what their taught anti-Semitism teaches them to believe. The Shrike - 20/10/2023 02:39:19 PM 179 Views
What is amazing is how opinions here have split by party affiliation. damookster - 20/10/2023 02:53:41 PM 159 Views
There is absolutely nothing amazing about it. Vodalus - 20/10/2023 03:17:27 PM 171 Views
I believe there's a little more to it than that. damookster - 20/10/2023 03:46:24 PM 185 Views
Sure, but does it even matter at this point? Vodalus - 20/10/2023 05:58:32 PM 211 Views
Never forget The Shrike - 20/10/2023 06:16:25 PM 165 Views
Go fuck yourself Roland00 - 20/10/2023 06:43:41 PM 151 Views
Piss off Roland damookster - 20/10/2023 07:25:18 PM 143 Views
I am cursing Greg for he is one man Roland00 - 20/10/2023 07:35:01 PM 168 Views
Actually I know that Israel has a right to exist and its people have a right to the land. The Shrike - 20/10/2023 07:38:31 PM 159 Views
greg you are putting words into my mouth Roland00 - 20/10/2023 07:44:06 PM 162 Views
Seriously Mookie listen to yourself Roland00 - 20/10/2023 07:39:27 PM 168 Views
Re: Seriously Mookie listen to yourself damookster - 20/10/2023 07:45:42 PM 186 Views
Found the anti-semite. The Shrike - 20/10/2023 07:30:25 PM 155 Views
I was born failed Roland00 - 20/10/2023 07:32:41 PM 156 Views
Sweetie darling, The Shrike - 20/10/2023 07:39:42 PM 174 Views
you are the one who is keep on bringing dionysus and the world spirit into this. You are mad *NM* Roland00 - 20/10/2023 07:44:55 PM 81 Views
You think you're unique? damookster - 20/10/2023 07:40:24 PM 157 Views
So people who are 14 in Gaza, where are they supposed to go? Roland00 - 20/10/2023 07:45:41 PM 141 Views
Ask the surrounding Arab countries, for once. *NM* damookster - 20/10/2023 07:47:13 PM 75 Views
And who killed a former president of Egypt? It was before the 14 year olds birth Roland00 - 20/10/2023 07:52:23 PM 164 Views
If you're referencing Sadat, he was killed by a fellow Egyptian damookster - 20/10/2023 08:12:35 PM 177 Views
Yes I am referencing Sadat Roland00 - 20/10/2023 08:51:35 PM 141 Views
Re: Never forget Vodalus - 20/10/2023 07:09:51 PM 178 Views
One thing to note The Shrike - 20/10/2023 07:35:10 PM 157 Views
Sadly, Jordan doesn't want them, any more than Egypt. *NM* damookster - 20/10/2023 07:49:16 PM 80 Views
Re: One thing to note Vodalus - 20/10/2023 07:51:48 PM 191 Views
Or maybe its lies spread on campuses over the past 30 years The Shrike - 20/10/2023 05:24:11 PM 157 Views
Both, and more. Vodalus - 20/10/2023 06:00:49 PM 171 Views
People believe what fits best with the ongoing narrative. Legolas - 20/10/2023 03:51:31 PM 182 Views
The first assumption that the IDF and US are obviously lying is the issue. *NM* damookster - 20/10/2023 04:07:29 PM 90 Views
All plays in the wider geopolitical war going on here The Shrike - 20/10/2023 05:32:15 PM 149 Views
The larger pattern The Shrike - 20/10/2023 05:29:56 PM 167 Views
I agree 100% damookster - 20/10/2023 05:45:08 PM 156 Views
Nice to see the board alive again, even for just one day. *NM* damookster - 20/10/2023 08:18:27 PM 90 Views
The blood always pumps due to cursed things, that or drink - *NM* Roland00 - 20/10/2023 08:40:49 PM 69 Views
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