Yes, I do. Men and women are biologically different; despite what "experts" may say, there are skeletal, muscular, and organ differences. Would you deny this?

Even if science reaches the point where, say, a trans-woman could have a uterus grown using "her" XY biology; you're still inserting something that they do not, and would not, naturally have. It doesn't change the basic biological reality.

So yes, this is a massive hurdle for me to get over. You're not wrong about your second point,

But this one isn't that big of a hurdle to me. I'm totally fine with people believing I am crazy for believing in a Creator. No issue with that at all. But it is crazy to me that they'll argue I am crazy for believing and unprovable claim, but you all expect me to believe a provably false claim. Sorry, that ain't a woman. It's a biological male. If he wants to play make-believe and y'all want to play make-believe with him, more power to you! That's what y'all think I'm doing with my God! So go crazy, I honestly don't give a shit.

But when y'all try and force me to go along with your delusion, that's where I check out.

But see, to me, there's just something inherently fucked up about amputating healthy organs because they make somebody feel bad. If you think people with "body integrity identity disorder" should be allowed to amputate their body parts, fine! It's a free country, do what you want!

But why, why is it so hard to wait till you're 18 before you sterilize yourself? Like, sorry, once again, there's gotta be a line somewhere, and if it's not gonna be "well we don't think these people are mature enough to consent to sex", when the hell will it be?

That's why I bring up teething; how do we know that childs identity isn't tied up in not having teeth? If we cannot assign a gender to a child, who are we to assign whether or not their identity is toothless? What if their identity is tied up in being short?

And truly, thank you. You're right, just as the same inverted, I'm sure, but I do like to understand where people are coming from, and Ghav's constant "well you're an asshole" isn't really clearing anything up.

Again, I'd argue it's biological, not philosophical.

So... some 13 year-olds are more capable of consenting to sex than some 65 year-olds.

Do you see why I have such a massive problem with this line of thought?

I hear this a lot, and yet, the last "LGBTQ+" person to be killed was national news for a week. Meanwhile, people like Riley Gains or that cancer patient in Oregon are attacked and denied medical service for their views. I hear a bunch about the "trans genocide", but, much like Ghav above, nobody seems to care about the "fentanyl genocide" currently on-going.

Funny how that works.

But they aren't comparable. Let's take two 17 year old girls; I know breast cancer at that age is practically non-existent, but let's roll with it. How can you compare the struggle of a 17 year old, her body turning against her, actively, really trying to kill her, and she has to wrangle with the terrible decision, with her family, to harm herself to save herself.

If she does not do this, the cancer will kill her.

On the other side, you have a 17 year old trans-man. They feel terrible, because their friends were born in the wrong bodies, and damnit, they're special too, so they were born in the wrong body! Now, she and her parents have to wrangle with this terrible decision, to harm herself to feel better.

If she does not do this, she might feel very sad and might kill herself.

I'm sorry. I feel for the second girl; I truly wish for her happiness and her health. But it's not comparable to compare an action taken to knowingly save a life, with an action taken to possibly maybe save a life unless she decides to kill herself anyways.

The reason it's anathema to me that people would do this is because I understand confusion. I understand making mistakes. I understand how easy it is to be fooled, and how hard it is to admit being fooled. I'm not asking people to put away their beliefs.

I'm merely asking them to wait until they are mature.

Is that really so much to ask?