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Indeed. TyrReborn Send a noteboard - 14/08/2023 09:50:53 PM

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And if there somehow were, it would make sense for there to be medical intervention to stop people from killing themselves.

Or even to stop people from simply being miserable.


It's almost like there's other ways to help people be happy. Almost like it shouldn't be "binary" choice between "suicide" and "self-mutilation".

Almost like you're supposed to grow up and eventually learn to accept yourself.

Almost like humanity has for hundreds of thousands of years.

But I'm the crazy one with the mental illness, yep; transphobia.

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“Can you imagine our reading that James Madison or Thomas Jefferson tried to overthrow the gov't?" TyrReborn - 03/08/2023 09:02:48 PM 1875 Views
I'm curious as to your point in posting this. damookster - 04/08/2023 03:17:48 AM 772 Views
The point is that these uneducated dumbass race-baiters dare to lecture us TyrReborn - 04/08/2023 05:33:36 PM 674 Views
. . . The Shrike - 05/08/2023 02:14:20 PM 719 Views
You're entitled to your optimistic view TyrReborn - 05/08/2023 04:24:33 PM 704 Views
You only think your view is realistic because you haven't studied enough history. The Shrike - 06/08/2023 04:04:34 PM 747 Views
You're entitled to your optimistic view. *NM* TyrReborn - 06/08/2023 09:18:39 PM 320 Views
Not only is this statistically incorrect, it's historically incorrect. Ghavrel - 08/08/2023 11:35:42 PM 717 Views
Sigh, I understand that it's hard to grasp these days, with our medical miracles, TyrReborn - 14/08/2023 05:52:01 PM 709 Views
Disease is counted as part of wartime casualties. Ghavrel - 14/08/2023 08:17:53 PM 686 Views
And Covid killed 1000000 Americans lol TyrReborn - 14/08/2023 09:49:02 PM 731 Views
You didn't cherry pick anything. You just decided that the consensus of experts is incorrect. Ghavrel - 14/08/2023 11:37:05 PM 704 Views
Died of =/= died from, and died during =/= killed TyrReborn - 17/08/2023 04:58:08 PM 729 Views
I don't think so Tom - 07/08/2023 01:54:05 PM 719 Views
These facts would cause you to be denounced as a "putinite fascist"... TyrReborn - 07/08/2023 05:45:05 PM 687 Views
Well, of course it's going to pass Tom - 07/08/2023 06:55:12 PM 745 Views
Tom, you are being far too reasonable. That doesn’t fly in 2023! *NM* damookster - 08/08/2023 12:22:49 AM 324 Views
He is, which is why, I think, he is wrong. *NM* TyrReborn - 08/08/2023 10:18:32 PM 338 Views
I just can't buy that the political and academic class will give up their grip so easily. TyrReborn - 08/08/2023 05:49:58 PM 677 Views
Academics have been pro Marxism for over 100 years. It's nothing new. *NM* damookster - 08/08/2023 05:59:55 PM 335 Views
Maybe. But they've never been this spiteful or spoiled before. TyrReborn - 09/08/2023 01:29:30 PM 659 Views
No, they only recruited students to spy for the Soviets *NM* damookster - 14/08/2023 06:18:58 PM 312 Views
Yes. They do that now, too. Except it's the Chinese. *NM* TyrReborn - 14/08/2023 09:51:37 PM 325 Views
Do you have sources for that 'far more conservative and far more religious' claim? Legolas - 09/08/2023 07:35:50 PM 687 Views
In regards to more conservative, The Shrike - 09/08/2023 08:35:03 PM 727 Views
You see all this fury because a random dude on the internet calls a dude a dude TyrReborn - 17/08/2023 03:31:00 PM 674 Views
I side with Greg and Tom in this discussion. damookster - 08/08/2023 05:57:54 PM 691 Views
I don't suppose linking medical articles is going to help too much here, but... Ghavrel - 08/08/2023 11:28:05 PM 723 Views
Elizabeth, you know I have a non binary grandchild. damookster - 09/08/2023 01:22:32 AM 751 Views
Yeah, I know, I just think that the statistics are dangerous. Ghavrel - 09/08/2023 04:36:40 AM 671 Views
Respectfully, do you truly believe this? TyrReborn - 09/08/2023 05:42:31 PM 693 Views
I'll bite... Legolas - 09/08/2023 06:39:46 PM 686 Views
Thanks. <3 *NM* Ghavrel - 09/08/2023 08:27:13 PM 321 Views
Your thoughts AgentApple - 11/08/2023 04:14:37 PM 671 Views
Yes, that's true. Legolas - 11/08/2023 06:11:49 PM 711 Views
Re: Yes, that's true. AgentApple - 12/08/2023 04:25:28 PM 648 Views
The issue itself isn't necessarily - the way it's being used, however, is. Legolas - 14/08/2023 05:44:35 PM 666 Views
This is not bait, I am legitimately trying to understand. And if I understand correctly... TyrReborn - 11/08/2023 05:17:02 PM 766 Views
As I said, it wasn't intended as perfect analogy - it's about how much say should children have. Legolas - 11/08/2023 06:44:33 PM 704 Views
No, seriously, only the last one was intended as parody. And I'd like an explanation. TyrReborn - 14/08/2023 05:43:37 PM 670 Views
There aren't a lot of people committing suicide over their teeth coming in. Ghavrel - 14/08/2023 08:21:29 PM 683 Views
Indeed. TyrReborn - 14/08/2023 09:50:53 PM 651 Views
You aren't mentally ill because of your views. You're just an asshole. Ghavrel - 14/08/2023 11:35:13 PM 693 Views
Re: No, seriously, only the last one was intended as parody. And I'd like an explanation. Legolas - 15/08/2023 04:14:57 PM 711 Views
See, you're willing to discuss, instead of insult. Others on this board might take note. TyrReborn - 17/08/2023 05:18:39 PM 685 Views
Yeah, well, I have the luxury of an outsider's position... Legolas - 23/08/2023 11:47:24 PM 707 Views
Nobody is an outsider when reality is being attacked. TyrReborn - 25/08/2023 05:40:43 PM 672 Views
Fun facts Vodalus - 26/08/2023 06:22:57 AM 752 Views
There's some evidence that hormonal changes in utero are related to transgenderism. *NM* Ghavrel - 26/08/2023 11:26:21 PM 318 Views
Naturally occurring or iatrogenic? *NM* Vodalus - 26/08/2023 11:37:06 PM 333 Views
The studies are about naturally occuring variance, but that doesn't rule out other causes. *NM* Ghavrel - 28/08/2023 12:03:16 AM 347 Views
Not really "fun" so much as "a sad reality of biology", but yes. TyrReborn - 27/08/2023 09:42:14 PM 703 Views
Imagine if you had the same attitude towards trans people. Ghavrel - 28/08/2023 12:02:34 AM 669 Views
I may be no endocrinologist, but I at least understand simple biology. XY =/= XX =/= XXY TyrReborn - 28/08/2023 05:40:14 PM 643 Views
One can be an adult trans person and not support mutilation of children. *NM* damookster - 28/08/2023 07:49:32 PM 324 Views
Fair enough. I have some measure of respect for "Caitlyn" Jenner. You do you homie. *NM* TyrReborn - 29/08/2023 04:54:13 AM 313 Views
Simple is definitely true. Shame you never learned biology past what you were taught in high school. Ghavrel - 28/08/2023 11:21:38 PM 661 Views
Right, cause we're "butterflies" TyrReborn - 29/08/2023 04:57:20 AM 654 Views
I go to mass more than you. *NM* Ghavrel - 29/08/2023 09:58:09 AM 328 Views
Wow, really? And you still mutilated your body and told God that He was wrong about you? TyrReborn - 31/08/2023 05:44:32 PM 679 Views
I must say, The Shrike - 31/08/2023 07:04:47 PM 747 Views
Love is being true. Love is being honest. Love is God. TyrReborn - 31/08/2023 07:52:59 PM 672 Views
I appreciate that a great deal. Thank you. I think very highly of you, too. *NM* Ghavrel - 01/09/2023 04:44:58 AM 344 Views
Really went off the deep end there huh... Legolas - 31/08/2023 10:39:02 PM 654 Views
At least my beliefs can't be disproven by a $40 test at Wal-Mart. TyrReborn - 02/09/2023 03:40:43 PM 656 Views
It's ok. Many of us are quite sad for you too. The Shrike - 29/08/2023 11:10:32 AM 673 Views
I couldn't care less what unbelievers think. You'll meet the Truth, one day. TyrReborn - 31/08/2023 05:45:31 PM 645 Views
No such thing as damnation, but thanks. The Shrike - 31/08/2023 06:55:23 PM 675 Views
Then nothing more needs to be said. See who support your lies, Ghav? They literally deny Love. *NM* TyrReborn - 31/08/2023 07:54:23 PM 332 Views
He understands love a lot better than you do. *NM* Ghavrel - 01/09/2023 04:46:14 AM 325 Views
Hah! I knew you didn't worship God. Thanks for admitting it. *NM* TyrReborn - 02/09/2023 03:38:43 PM 342 Views
You're simply acting deranged at this point. Ghavrel - 03/09/2023 01:13:20 AM 727 Views
I hope you don't call yourselves Christian. TyrReborn - 03/09/2023 04:11:06 AM 616 Views
Of course I'm Christian. I confess the faith of the apostles and of the councils. Ghavrel - 03/09/2023 11:41:56 AM 663 Views
Would you castrate Michelangelo's David? TyrReborn - 03/09/2023 09:03:07 PM 638 Views
Dude, you have really driven this off the deep end. damookster - 03/09/2023 04:03:16 PM 653 Views
It is not, and I am not. TyrReborn - 03/09/2023 09:06:48 PM 674 Views
You absolutely are damookster - 03/09/2023 09:27:00 PM 668 Views
Caution is not condemnation. Warning is not judgment. TyrReborn - 03/09/2023 11:05:17 PM 653 Views
Bro, I'm not worried about your immortal soul. damookster - 03/09/2023 11:35:41 PM 680 Views
I get that. But Ghav, supposedly, is. TyrReborn - 04/09/2023 12:09:55 AM 664 Views
You’ve expressed some pretty odious and ugly sentiments. Vodalus - 03/09/2023 10:07:51 PM 655 Views
Yeah, I'm definitely an outsider, and so are you. Legolas - 28/08/2023 07:49:48 PM 655 Views
Ok. TyrReborn - 29/08/2023 05:09:14 AM 658 Views
Schizophrenics suffer violent crime at 14x rate. Is America "schizophobic"? TyrReborn - 01/09/2023 05:01:18 PM 667 Views
I'll chew... entyti - 11/08/2023 10:35:45 PM 708 Views
What's your stance on parents who refuse medical treatment for their children with cancer? Ghavrel - 11/08/2023 11:12:21 PM 700 Views
I think... entyti - 11/08/2023 11:37:52 PM 684 Views
Really? damookster - 12/08/2023 12:02:12 AM 664 Views
Am I being unreasonable? entyti - 12/08/2023 05:16:06 AM 717 Views
Maybe not damookster - 12/08/2023 03:38:50 PM 714 Views
Most of us don't really like "the gays," either. And referring to people as "blacks" is offensive. *NM* Ghavrel - 13/08/2023 12:34:32 AM 311 Views
... is referring to people as "whites" offensive? I really, really hope you say yes. *NM* TyrReborn - 14/08/2023 05:46:07 PM 364 Views
Unfortunately for whites, gays, blacks, and transgenders... entyti - 14/08/2023 06:09:47 PM 655 Views
Their voice only counts *NM* damookster - 14/08/2023 06:20:32 PM 306 Views
Touché *NM* entyti - 14/08/2023 07:12:54 PM 304 Views
You can always choose not to be a dick online. *NM* Ghavrel - 14/08/2023 08:19:52 PM 285 Views
Now why would I want to do that? entyti - 14/08/2023 11:24:09 PM 650 Views
You're not a dick. You're honest. TyrReborn - 14/08/2023 09:54:34 PM 660 Views
Why not both? entyti - 15/08/2023 03:01:58 AM 713 Views
Sad, but true. TyrReborn - 17/08/2023 05:22:11 PM 675 Views
Re: I think... Ghavrel - 13/08/2023 12:35:05 AM 676 Views
Re: I'll chew... Legolas - 12/08/2023 03:49:47 PM 707 Views
Re: I'll chew... entyti - 14/08/2023 10:56:15 PM 663 Views
Re: I'll chew... Legolas - 15/08/2023 11:32:12 PM 700 Views
3 weeks later, did you have fun with this thread Tyr? *NM* Roland00 - 28/08/2023 08:16:13 PM 327 Views
We went a bit afield, sure, but hey, the board has a discussion going, doesn't it? *NM* TyrReborn - 29/08/2023 05:00:03 AM 297 Views
Well take care Roland00 - 31/08/2023 11:06:43 PM 746 Views
Same to you. TyrReborn - 03/09/2023 04:20:19 AM 663 Views
Seeing things as beautiful or rotting Roland00 - 03/09/2023 05:21:50 PM 681 Views
I could not disagree more. TyrReborn - 03/09/2023 09:13:31 PM 677 Views
See this is about you Roland00 - 03/09/2023 11:22:53 PM 680 Views
No, it's about God. TyrReborn - 03/09/2023 11:28:55 PM 656 Views
How much history do you know about Samaritans? Roland00 - 03/09/2023 11:39:54 PM 650 Views
Friend, you can cut the shit. TyrReborn - 04/09/2023 12:19:56 AM 696 Views
I was going to talk about Mount Gerizim you nitwit Roland00 - 04/09/2023 01:36:16 AM 667 Views
Oh, my apologies then. TyrReborn - 04/09/2023 07:46:57 PM 684 Views
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