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I side with Greg and Tom in this discussion. damookster Send a noteboard - 08/08/2023 05:57:54 PM

As Tom pointed out, the backlash to the radical trans agenda has already begun, and it goes far beyond traditional parents. It includes members of the LG&B community who feel marginalized by the rush to declare everyone trans when the reality is true trans people comprise a very small percentage of the population. And I agree the lawsuits against doctors who have amputated breasts and testicles will swiftly end the practice.

And as Greg pointed out, polarization is nothing new. He went back to the Civil War era. How about in my lifetime? I was a teen in the 60s and my parents generation, the generation that fought WWII, were convinced the country was going to hell in a hand basket. Never before had American males refused to participate when called upon to fight, but they did en masse for Vietnam. Kneeling for the National Anthem didn't happen then. Flag burning was the thing instead. Dire predictions were made that the 60s counter culture would be America's demise. It wasn't.

Ad hominum attacks in politics? The Republicans claimed electing the Papist JFK in 1960 would mean a President who's allegiance was to Rome ahead of the US and the end of American sovereignty. Democrats ran ads showing hydrogen bomb tests in 1964 claiming this was what was in store if the warmonger Goldwater was elected. Racial fears? Nixon and Agnew rode them to realigning the political map, turning the South from blue to red where it has remained since.

Yeah, it's bad right now. The pendulum has swung too far, as they are wont to do. But inevitably, they swing back.

To paraphrase Aragorn's movie speech,

"A day may come when the USA fails, when we forsake our friends and break all bonds of fellowship, but it is not this day."

Mook

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I side with Greg and Tom in this discussion. - 08/08/2023 05:57:54 PM 709 Views
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3 weeks later, did you have fun with this thread Tyr? *NM* - 28/08/2023 08:16:13 PM 341 Views
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Oh, my apologies then. - 04/09/2023 07:46:57 PM 699 Views

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