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The Secret Service deleted texts from 6th Jan..now I wonder why... fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 19/07/2022 08:20:26 PM

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Trump lunging at a secret service officer, for one. The officer himself came out to say it never happened.


Did he now? Under oath, like Cassidy Hutchinson was? Because tweets have no obligation to be honest, so I'm not obliged to believe anything seen on Twitter. He's been invited to give his statement in a deposition, which he has refused to do...
But that doesn’t matter, right, because someone heard it did from Trump’s uncle’s hairdresser’s cousin’s dogwalker.

We now have a cop who says he saw the altercation, and evidence the Secret Service deleted texts from that day. So it would matter if it was true.
You call it a straw man but it’s not - it’s literally what you’re saying when you’re calling it an insurrection. That’s what an insurrection is you entire box of tools.

An insurrection is defined as "a violent uprising against an authority or government". Success or failure is immaterial to the definitely. Was there an uprising against the government that day? I don't see how not. Was there violence, both threatened and used? Yes, with massive quantities of photographic and videographic evidence. How's this not an insurrection again?
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Prosecute Trump? fionwe1987 - 14/07/2022 09:18:24 PM 474 Views
I would be surprised, but not shocked if there was an indictment. damookster - 14/07/2022 09:26:45 PM 155 Views
There is no way he's not running again in 2024. Dragonsoul - 14/07/2022 09:45:28 PM 169 Views
There's no way he agrees to not run fionwe1987 - 14/07/2022 09:46:55 PM 162 Views
I fear you are right. damookster - 14/07/2022 10:17:40 PM 147 Views
Let me sum up the case. Dragonsoul - 14/07/2022 09:44:20 PM 179 Views
Word vomit that is completely false and full of irrelevant asides is not a summary fionwe1987 - 14/07/2022 09:57:30 PM 149 Views
Lol parody account, you live in a dream world. Dragonsoul - 15/07/2022 02:20:09 PM 153 Views
Sure fionwe1987 - 15/07/2022 02:48:19 PM 173 Views
Parody account: face reality edition Dragonsoul - 15/07/2022 03:09:48 PM 155 Views
Broken record. Try another track. fionwe1987 - 15/07/2022 09:59:22 PM 146 Views
Take your own advice, parody account Dragonsoul - 16/07/2022 02:17:34 AM 144 Views
The Secret Service deleted texts from 6th Jan..now I wonder why... fionwe1987 - 19/07/2022 08:20:26 PM 168 Views
As part of a device replacement program. Dragonsoul - 19/07/2022 10:12:31 PM 172 Views
It's like you're on a sugar high fionwe1987 - 20/07/2022 04:50:29 AM 168 Views
This is an excellent point. damookster - 20/07/2022 05:05:27 AM 154 Views
Thanks! fionwe1987 - 20/07/2022 07:42:09 PM 160 Views
Re: It's like you're on a sugar high Dragonsoul - 21/07/2022 02:32:47 PM 175 Views
Take your own advice, parody account Dragonsoul - 16/07/2022 02:17:34 AM 160 Views
Ugh damookster - 14/07/2022 10:21:00 PM 168 Views
It's Trump's party, like it or not. Dragonsoul - 15/07/2022 02:12:02 PM 170 Views
No. It isn't. damookster - 15/07/2022 05:04:36 PM 146 Views
LOL okay. Dragonsoul - 15/07/2022 09:10:36 PM 159 Views
You are missing the entire fucking point. damookster - 16/07/2022 12:53:59 AM 154 Views
No, you are. Dragonsoul - 16/07/2022 02:13:57 AM 154 Views
As will the fact that being Italian born and living in Canada means you have no dog in this hunt. *NM* damookster - 16/07/2022 02:40:09 AM 84 Views
Live in the US now son. Dragonsoul - 16/07/2022 01:42:41 PM 146 Views
Agreed with Dragonsoul Roland00 - 16/07/2022 07:39:57 PM 156 Views
Re: Agreed with Dragonsoul Dragonsoul - 17/07/2022 05:43:21 AM 162 Views
Re: Agreed with Dragonsoul Dragonsoul - 17/07/2022 05:43:23 AM 155 Views
That's not entirely fair AgentApple - 15/07/2022 01:10:25 PM 147 Views
Yeah, it's a tough one. Legolas - 14/07/2022 10:22:06 PM 179 Views
Yeah exactly fionwe1987 - 15/07/2022 12:12:19 AM 149 Views
Why are they calling it an insurrection, not a riot ? AgentApple - 15/07/2022 09:43:09 AM 151 Views
Because if they call it a riot they have no way of trying to scare average Americans from voting Dragonsoul - 15/07/2022 02:25:22 PM 159 Views
Because there was a plan of action and they're laying out that evidence. fionwe1987 - 15/07/2022 02:41:42 PM 157 Views
Regarding the elections... Legolas - 15/07/2022 07:28:07 PM 191 Views
as always, damookster - 15/07/2022 08:34:45 PM 169 Views
Voter ID fionwe1987 - 15/07/2022 10:10:24 PM 173 Views
damookster - 16/07/2022 12:32:06 AM 162 Views
Oh please! fionwe1987 - 16/07/2022 01:16:43 AM 160 Views
Ha! damookster - 16/07/2022 01:51:08 AM 150 Views
I think what separates us is less policy than belief in the health of the Republican Party fionwe1987 - 19/07/2022 03:44:01 PM 139 Views
Have you read the "Stop the Steal" article from the NYT magazine? damookster - 19/07/2022 06:57:24 PM 156 Views
I'd saved it for later. Half way through it now... fionwe1987 - 20/07/2022 07:40:48 PM 149 Views
(Not elite stuff) but Part of it goes back to the 80s and the militia movement Roland00 - 21/07/2022 06:58:33 AM 133 Views
I derive some comfort from the fact that I have never voted for Trump. damookster - 21/07/2022 08:57:33 PM 140 Views
This is the single most reasonable thing I've ever read from you. *NM* Narg - 18/07/2022 06:08:35 PM 107 Views
You think Trump should have been removed from office over Ukraine? Tom - 21/07/2022 02:44:40 PM 140 Views
I share your concerns around indicting Trump damookster - 21/07/2022 08:44:20 PM 129 Views
I was actually talking about the other impeachment - hard to keep track, I know. Legolas - 23/07/2022 10:50:57 PM 134 Views
To Go Baroque here Roland00 - 15/07/2022 07:32:27 PM 152 Views
One last thing Roland00 - 15/07/2022 07:38:04 PM 135 Views
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