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Oh please! fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 16/07/2022 01:16:43 AM

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Are you also becoming reasonable? WTF is happening???

Not really. I'm just realizing the Republicans have reached such a stage of unreason that all you need to gut them is do half measures that everyone thinks is reasonable, and watch as they block that too. It's more tactical than anything.

Left to myself, I'd make gaining citizenship and voting rights in the US an automated thing with a fixed timeframe for certain conditions to be met, after which you're good to request citizenship. Pass whatever backgrounds checks needed and you're done.

All of which I'm sure sounds too extreme, and will continue to if that's what we push for. So you show the suckers some rope to hang themselves. At this point, they're so reactionarily anti-anything a Dem signs on to that you can make them repeatedly shoot themselves in the crotch. I'd enjoy that, is all


I have to agree with everything you just wrote. The House should absolutely rush into legislation a law guaranteeing abortion in those limited terms. And I completely agree that if a National ID card is a voting requirement, above and beyond the driver's license and passport I already possess, then it should be available to anyone who qualifies.

So let's say this law, by some miracle, makes it to the floor of the House and Senate. Can you honestly tell me which party you think will vote for it in higher numbers?
Jesus H. Christ on a cracker, my worldview is being upended.


Hush you..wait till this discussion plays out before you say that.
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Prosecute Trump? fionwe1987 - 14/07/2022 09:18:24 PM 604 Views
I would be surprised, but not shocked if there was an indictment. damookster - 14/07/2022 09:26:45 PM 250 Views
There is no way he's not running again in 2024. Dragonsoul - 14/07/2022 09:45:28 PM 314 Views
There's no way he agrees to not run fionwe1987 - 14/07/2022 09:46:55 PM 248 Views
I fear you are right. damookster - 14/07/2022 10:17:40 PM 242 Views
Let me sum up the case. Dragonsoul - 14/07/2022 09:44:20 PM 279 Views
Word vomit that is completely false and full of irrelevant asides is not a summary fionwe1987 - 14/07/2022 09:57:30 PM 253 Views
Lol parody account, you live in a dream world. Dragonsoul - 15/07/2022 02:20:09 PM 261 Views
Sure fionwe1987 - 15/07/2022 02:48:19 PM 275 Views
Parody account: face reality edition Dragonsoul - 15/07/2022 03:09:48 PM 255 Views
Broken record. Try another track. fionwe1987 - 15/07/2022 09:59:22 PM 235 Views
Take your own advice, parody account Dragonsoul - 16/07/2022 02:17:34 AM 243 Views
The Secret Service deleted texts from 6th Jan..now I wonder why... fionwe1987 - 19/07/2022 08:20:26 PM 267 Views
As part of a device replacement program. Dragonsoul - 19/07/2022 10:12:31 PM 272 Views
It's like you're on a sugar high fionwe1987 - 20/07/2022 04:50:29 AM 265 Views
This is an excellent point. damookster - 20/07/2022 05:05:27 AM 250 Views
Thanks! fionwe1987 - 20/07/2022 07:42:09 PM 254 Views
Re: It's like you're on a sugar high Dragonsoul - 21/07/2022 02:32:47 PM 267 Views
Take your own advice, parody account Dragonsoul - 16/07/2022 02:17:34 AM 267 Views
Ugh damookster - 14/07/2022 10:21:00 PM 232 Views
It's Trump's party, like it or not. Dragonsoul - 15/07/2022 02:12:02 PM 271 Views
No. It isn't. damookster - 15/07/2022 05:04:36 PM 241 Views
LOL okay. Dragonsoul - 15/07/2022 09:10:36 PM 266 Views
You are missing the entire fucking point. damookster - 16/07/2022 12:53:59 AM 248 Views
No, you are. Dragonsoul - 16/07/2022 02:13:57 AM 256 Views
As will the fact that being Italian born and living in Canada means you have no dog in this hunt. *NM* damookster - 16/07/2022 02:40:09 AM 134 Views
Live in the US now son. Dragonsoul - 16/07/2022 01:42:41 PM 238 Views
Agreed with Dragonsoul Roland00 - 16/07/2022 07:39:57 PM 250 Views
Re: Agreed with Dragonsoul Dragonsoul - 17/07/2022 05:43:21 AM 265 Views
Re: Agreed with Dragonsoul Dragonsoul - 17/07/2022 05:43:23 AM 237 Views
That's not entirely fair AgentApple - 15/07/2022 01:10:25 PM 235 Views
Yeah, it's a tough one. Legolas - 14/07/2022 10:22:06 PM 292 Views
Yeah exactly fionwe1987 - 15/07/2022 12:12:19 AM 248 Views
Why are they calling it an insurrection, not a riot ? AgentApple - 15/07/2022 09:43:09 AM 254 Views
Because if they call it a riot they have no way of trying to scare average Americans from voting Dragonsoul - 15/07/2022 02:25:22 PM 264 Views
Because there was a plan of action and they're laying out that evidence. fionwe1987 - 15/07/2022 02:41:42 PM 251 Views
Regarding the elections... Legolas - 15/07/2022 07:28:07 PM 280 Views
as always, damookster - 15/07/2022 08:34:45 PM 253 Views
Voter ID fionwe1987 - 15/07/2022 10:10:24 PM 270 Views
damookster - 16/07/2022 12:32:06 AM 262 Views
Oh please! fionwe1987 - 16/07/2022 01:16:43 AM 261 Views
Ha! damookster - 16/07/2022 01:51:08 AM 249 Views
I think what separates us is less policy than belief in the health of the Republican Party fionwe1987 - 19/07/2022 03:44:01 PM 262 Views
Have you read the "Stop the Steal" article from the NYT magazine? damookster - 19/07/2022 06:57:24 PM 255 Views
I'd saved it for later. Half way through it now... fionwe1987 - 20/07/2022 07:40:48 PM 241 Views
(Not elite stuff) but Part of it goes back to the 80s and the militia movement Roland00 - 21/07/2022 06:58:33 AM 236 Views
I derive some comfort from the fact that I have never voted for Trump. damookster - 21/07/2022 08:57:33 PM 236 Views
This is the single most reasonable thing I've ever read from you. *NM* Narg - 18/07/2022 06:08:35 PM 150 Views
You think Trump should have been removed from office over Ukraine? Tom - 21/07/2022 02:44:40 PM 227 Views
I share your concerns around indicting Trump damookster - 21/07/2022 08:44:20 PM 222 Views
I was actually talking about the other impeachment - hard to keep track, I know. Legolas - 23/07/2022 10:50:57 PM 240 Views
To Go Baroque here Roland00 - 15/07/2022 07:32:27 PM 244 Views
One last thing Roland00 - 15/07/2022 07:38:04 PM 235 Views
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