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Oh, fuck off. TyrReborn Send a noteboard - 27/05/2022 06:21:45 PM

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Of course it isn't the supreme law of that land. It is a piece of fiction that draws legitimacy from people's belief that following it is more to their benefit than not. As the Constitution, or it's creative interpretation, makes that less and less true, so it becomes less and less able to command that belief.

Your Constitution is flawed because it neither anticipated the formation of nor the deep partisan entrenchment based on political parties. Nor did the framers, through no fault of theirs, anticipate the kind of media environment we have today. The amendment process is consequentially designed to be so slow as to render it incapable of producing solutions to urgent problems.


If you don't like the Constitution, you don't like the United States. Take your ball and walk. You're the one like a broken record, refusing to accept that there are just things that will remain, and Americans will continue owning guns.

To force Americans to do otherwise is un-American, and any attempt by the gov't to do so would immediately cede its rights as representatives of the People.

People who use tragedies to try and take away peoples rights are as close to actually evil as I accept exists in this world. And people who use tragedies to try and undermine the spirit of a nation are even worse, because it's readily apparent they've no desire to actually fix problems, merely to push their morals onto others at the others' expense.

Go back to your make believe world where up is down, left is right, and women are men.

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If no one else wants to open this can of worms, I guess I’ll have to do it damookster - 26/05/2022 02:07:18 AM 1008 Views
Unfortunately, there's not much to say. Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 04:26:10 PM 294 Views
You are not going to get a non emotional discussion about guns, it will never ever be rational Roland00 - 26/05/2022 08:04:55 PM 255 Views
Re: You are not going to get a non emotional discussion about guns, it will never ever be rational Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 08:36:34 PM 284 Views
There are so many (partial)-solutions and no single one is going to solve it. Roland00 - 26/05/2022 09:03:10 PM 252 Views
Unfortunately every time there is a mass shooting, gun sales spike. damookster - 26/05/2022 09:26:09 PM 306 Views
Yes Roland00 - 26/05/2022 09:55:14 PM 260 Views
Re: There are so many (partial)-solutions and no single one is going to solve it. Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 09:56:23 PM 265 Views
You understand two things can both be true, right? damookster - 26/05/2022 10:19:56 PM 259 Views
In such a way Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 10:27:52 PM 264 Views
What Mookie said, Sense and Sensibility with Perspective Roland00 - 26/05/2022 10:29:04 PM 245 Views
Oh yes, everyone is to blame, and hence no one fionwe1987 - 26/05/2022 04:58:37 PM 280 Views
You obviously don't know anything about Canada's gun laws. Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 05:20:25 PM 305 Views
Remarkable fionwe1987 - 27/05/2022 03:55:54 AM 265 Views
4% PAL acquisition is, in essence, a ban. Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 04:13:45 AM 252 Views
Well, that was a load of chickenshit fionwe1987 - 27/05/2022 05:08:29 AM 264 Views
He said, running away. Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 11:34:19 AM 256 Views
He said, running away. Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 11:34:20 AM 241 Views
You are the RAFO poster child for inability to hold a rational discussion that includes disagreement damookster - 26/05/2022 06:50:11 PM 280 Views
No, we're just disagreeing on what is rational, that is all... fionwe1987 - 27/05/2022 03:42:23 AM 258 Views
You just don’t get it. damookster - 27/05/2022 04:22:55 AM 298 Views
I think the same of you... fionwe1987 - 27/05/2022 05:05:43 AM 276 Views
Article VI, Clause II damookster - 27/05/2022 05:17:40 AM 260 Views
You're like a broken record. fionwe1987 - 27/05/2022 05:23:52 AM 261 Views
Bro you literally come from a country that plays nuclear chicken with Pakistan. Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 11:40:07 AM 263 Views
And? fionwe1987 - 27/05/2022 02:24:09 PM 260 Views
Lol Parody account confirmed. Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 04:04:56 PM 293 Views
Your repertoire of insults needs expansion. Keep trying. fionwe1987 - 27/05/2022 04:27:35 PM 242 Views
He said, not coming up with any retort of his own. Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 09:58:30 PM 254 Views
whooops *NM* Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 09:58:03 PM 163 Views
Oh, fuck off. TyrReborn - 27/05/2022 06:21:45 PM 273 Views
Why is liking the Constitution a binary thing? Roland00 - 27/05/2022 08:36:12 PM 243 Views
As you point out, it isn’t binary at all. damookster - 27/05/2022 09:16:18 PM 273 Views
*NM* Roland00 - 27/05/2022 09:55:28 PM 165 Views
Loyalty is to God, Family, Community, and only then State. TyrReborn - 27/05/2022 09:55:58 PM 259 Views
The founding fathers have a dream, where dreams start and reality begin Roland00 - 27/05/2022 11:39:07 PM 265 Views
This is wonderfully meandering and thought-provoking, but woefully insubstantial for understanding. *NM* TyrReborn - 28/05/2022 12:10:04 AM 163 Views
It is not fionwe1987 - 28/05/2022 07:19:32 AM 253 Views
Re: Oh, fuck off. fionwe1987 - 28/05/2022 06:53:38 AM 259 Views
That's a lot of words to say absolutely nothing. TyrReborn - 28/05/2022 06:56:05 PM 266 Views
When you shut your eyes, of course you can only see nothing fionwe1987 - 28/05/2022 09:43:13 PM 259 Views
A dead child for freedom is the choice made every abortion. TyrReborn - 30/05/2022 08:16:18 PM 251 Views
Oh really? Then explain to me... fionwe1987 - 31/05/2022 08:41:09 PM 281 Views
That baby isn't a baby, but that man is a woman TyrReborn - 01/06/2022 01:57:40 AM 256 Views
How would the world be different Roland00 - 26/05/2022 07:03:22 PM 259 Views
Yes and if my aunt had balls she would be my uncle damookster - 26/05/2022 07:14:08 PM 237 Views
I do not believe the original thread was made with curiosity or charity in mind. Roland00 - 26/05/2022 07:24:20 PM 233 Views
Well isn’t this the pot calling the kettle black. Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 07:33:12 PM 249 Views
Well it is about respectability politics you see Roland00 - 26/05/2022 07:38:59 PM 262 Views
You're one of those men. Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 08:27:53 PM 268 Views
Hypocrisy Roland00 - 26/05/2022 08:42:17 PM 227 Views
I don't know whether English is your first language Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 10:00:04 PM 248 Views
Your attempt at mind reading is an abject failure. damookster - 26/05/2022 07:58:07 PM 242 Views
You started with Foreclosure Roland00 - 26/05/2022 08:08:36 PM 232 Views
Foreclosure, huh damookster - 26/05/2022 08:48:50 PM 246 Views
My advice is listen to the podcast I linked Dragonsoul *NM* Roland00 - 26/05/2022 09:05:13 PM 128 Views
One more thing Roland00 - 26/05/2022 07:25:22 PM 258 Views
And I guess this post proves my point, lol. Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 07:34:48 PM 252 Views
Did I trigger you? damookster - 26/05/2022 07:50:02 PM 219 Views
You screaming get off my lawn is inherently causes an urge to egg your house *NM* Roland00 - 26/05/2022 08:05:48 PM 136 Views
~soaks Roland with the jet nozzle as I hose the egg off my front porch~ *NM* damookster - 26/05/2022 08:50:22 PM 142 Views
Never owned a gun, but I support gun rights. But... TyrReborn - 27/05/2022 02:51:26 AM 257 Views
I pretty much agree. damookster - 27/05/2022 03:18:38 AM 267 Views
Yep, what Tyr said *NM* Roland00 - 27/05/2022 03:27:33 AM 135 Views
The NY Yankees are now tweeting about guns. Roland00 - 27/05/2022 03:26:45 AM 230 Views
Bah damookster - 27/05/2022 04:25:25 AM 249 Views
Baseball twitter is bad Roland00 - 27/05/2022 04:29:15 AM 224 Views
UPDATE on the shooter, Salvador Ramos damookster - 27/05/2022 03:27:59 PM 276 Views
Can't be more of a disgrace than waiting an hour to go in and kill him. Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 04:05:58 PM 229 Views
Re: Can't be more of a disgrace than waiting an hour to go in and kill him. damookster - 27/05/2022 04:15:22 PM 257 Views
I disagree. Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 10:02:23 PM 236 Views
And if one of the fathers went in and accidentally killed another child and not the shooter? Roland00 - 27/05/2022 11:46:17 PM 233 Views
Thats a good point, and something I didn’t consider when I wrote my response. Dragonsoul - 28/05/2022 12:08:48 AM 229 Views
Understanding with Madness and all that stuff Roland00 - 28/05/2022 12:50:35 AM 245 Views
It's funny how the left thinks only cops should have guns, but also ACAB. TyrReborn - 27/05/2022 06:15:23 PM 245 Views
They already lost their balls. damookster - 27/05/2022 06:52:52 PM 265 Views
I am glad you protect your family Roland00 - 27/05/2022 08:46:05 PM 230 Views
But see, this is why the death of community and religion is bad for America. TyrReborn - 27/05/2022 10:12:49 PM 236 Views
Charles Whitman took his rifles to the tower at UT Austin in 1966 and killed 14 random people. damookster - 27/05/2022 10:21:42 PM 244 Views
And in May 1928, a maniac bombed a school in Michigan, killing 44. TyrReborn - 27/05/2022 11:46:34 PM 246 Views
I think the presence of visual imagery provides a mimetic response Roland00 - 27/05/2022 11:52:32 PM 259 Views
Reasonable, but even then, that's merely another condemnation for the modern world. TyrReborn - 28/05/2022 12:06:30 AM 241 Views
I agree Roland00 - 28/05/2022 12:56:10 AM 235 Views
I haven't said "bAn GuNs!1" Roland00 - 27/05/2022 11:33:43 PM 255 Views
This is taken from the late Justice Scalia’s majority opinion in 2008’s DC vs. Heller damookster - 27/05/2022 11:50:40 PM 262 Views
Please do not relitigate Heller with me Roland00 - 27/05/2022 11:59:21 PM 258 Views
I wasn’t and will not. damookster - 28/05/2022 01:01:59 AM 236 Views
We would scare them off that is what Roland00 - 28/05/2022 01:43:11 AM 233 Views
You chose wisely damookster - 28/05/2022 02:59:47 AM 248 Views
You did not. My apologies. TyrReborn - 28/05/2022 12:03:43 AM 239 Views
Why not 'harden' all schools and kindergartens with armed guards ? AgentApple - 30/05/2022 03:40:06 PM 239 Views
You're completely right and I hate it. TyrReborn - 30/05/2022 08:24:29 PM 215 Views
Another podcast I enjoyed Roland00 - 27/05/2022 08:26:56 PM 253 Views
This thread is reminiscint of the classic Wotmania debates from the aughts. damookster - 29/05/2022 12:22:47 AM 276 Views
Nobody would like my idea, but personally, I think Korea's 2 year mandatory service would do us good TyrReborn - 30/05/2022 08:30:37 PM 230 Views
Yep there is zero chance that will happen. Roland00 - 31/05/2022 10:32:06 PM 277 Views
Interesting damookster - 31/05/2022 10:56:53 PM 258 Views
Re: Yep there is zero chance that will happen. TyrReborn - 01/06/2022 01:50:37 AM 236 Views
Believe it or not I am not always a Grump Roland00 - 01/06/2022 03:38:16 AM 247 Views
Hot damn, Moolin Rouge was fantastic! *NM* entyti - 01/06/2022 09:36:04 PM 249 Views
What about trans-men entyti - 31/05/2022 10:07:21 PM 257 Views
an intriguing question damookster - 31/05/2022 10:34:39 PM 260 Views
It's all tongue-in-cheek, and isn't that dumb? TyrReborn - 01/06/2022 02:01:04 AM 248 Views
Can the 21 year olds Roland00 - 01/06/2022 03:44:08 AM 261 Views
You know, fair enough. If they're old enough to smoke, and they have a doctor that'll rx it, sure. *NM* TyrReborn - 01/06/2022 03:59:17 AM 141 Views
Something tells me this won't factor in anyone's favor... entyti - 01/06/2022 09:08:31 PM 270 Views
Wait, the *late* conservative Justice Alito? fionwe1987 - 01/06/2022 03:56:19 PM 259 Views
my bad damookster - 01/06/2022 05:09:22 PM 238 Views
The Uvalde Police Department and the Uvalde Independent School District police force are no longer Roland00 - 31/05/2022 11:45:32 PM 289 Views
The Uvalde police incompetence is totally indistinguishable from a cover-up at this point Roland00 - 04/06/2022 07:50:04 PM 296 Views
Until the existing gun laws are actually enforced, I am not willing to entertain any new ones HyogaRott - 09/06/2022 09:55:41 PM 293 Views
Oh yeah, and I am sick of the hyperbolic gaslighting by both sides HyogaRott - 09/06/2022 10:02:25 PM 286 Views
Anarchy, the State, and UTOPIA ! Roland00 - 10/06/2022 08:25:05 PM 253 Views
It gets darker and darker Roland00 - 22/06/2022 02:10:08 AM 239 Views
It's so bad dude. So bad. Those poor souls... *NM* TyrReborn - 30/06/2022 05:04:56 PM 131 Views
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