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UPDATE on the shooter, Salvador Ramos damookster Send a noteboard - 27/05/2022 03:27:59 PM

Texas Republican Congressman Tony Gonzalez stated this morning that Ramos was arrested as a juvenile for claiming that he was going to shoot up a school when he turned 18.

If true, it is an absolute disgrace that this individual was not placed on a watchlist to prevent him from legally purchasing guns. I understand juvenile records are typically sealed once one reaches legal adulthood but something like this should be an exception if it isn't already. If he was on a watchlist - I am not familiar with Texas law, such as it is - then someone needs to be held accountable.

The most rabid gun nut can't defend selling even one gun to a person who has threatened violence as soon as he can obtain one. There is no justification for this.

Mook

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"Bustin' makes me feel good!"

Ghostbusters, by Ray Parker Jr.
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If no one else wants to open this can of worms, I guess I’ll have to do it damookster - 26/05/2022 02:07:18 AM 983 Views
Unfortunately, there's not much to say. Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 04:26:10 PM 272 Views
You are not going to get a non emotional discussion about guns, it will never ever be rational Roland00 - 26/05/2022 08:04:55 PM 237 Views
Re: You are not going to get a non emotional discussion about guns, it will never ever be rational Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 08:36:34 PM 262 Views
There are so many (partial)-solutions and no single one is going to solve it. Roland00 - 26/05/2022 09:03:10 PM 231 Views
Unfortunately every time there is a mass shooting, gun sales spike. damookster - 26/05/2022 09:26:09 PM 281 Views
Yes Roland00 - 26/05/2022 09:55:14 PM 235 Views
Re: There are so many (partial)-solutions and no single one is going to solve it. Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 09:56:23 PM 246 Views
You understand two things can both be true, right? damookster - 26/05/2022 10:19:56 PM 249 Views
In such a way Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 10:27:52 PM 239 Views
What Mookie said, Sense and Sensibility with Perspective Roland00 - 26/05/2022 10:29:04 PM 229 Views
Oh yes, everyone is to blame, and hence no one fionwe1987 - 26/05/2022 04:58:37 PM 257 Views
You obviously don't know anything about Canada's gun laws. Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 05:20:25 PM 284 Views
Remarkable fionwe1987 - 27/05/2022 03:55:54 AM 243 Views
4% PAL acquisition is, in essence, a ban. Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 04:13:45 AM 233 Views
Well, that was a load of chickenshit fionwe1987 - 27/05/2022 05:08:29 AM 243 Views
He said, running away. Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 11:34:19 AM 243 Views
He said, running away. Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 11:34:20 AM 223 Views
You are the RAFO poster child for inability to hold a rational discussion that includes disagreement damookster - 26/05/2022 06:50:11 PM 261 Views
No, we're just disagreeing on what is rational, that is all... fionwe1987 - 27/05/2022 03:42:23 AM 240 Views
You just don’t get it. damookster - 27/05/2022 04:22:55 AM 275 Views
I think the same of you... fionwe1987 - 27/05/2022 05:05:43 AM 251 Views
Article VI, Clause II damookster - 27/05/2022 05:17:40 AM 244 Views
You're like a broken record. fionwe1987 - 27/05/2022 05:23:52 AM 241 Views
Bro you literally come from a country that plays nuclear chicken with Pakistan. Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 11:40:07 AM 246 Views
And? fionwe1987 - 27/05/2022 02:24:09 PM 243 Views
Lol Parody account confirmed. Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 04:04:56 PM 274 Views
Your repertoire of insults needs expansion. Keep trying. fionwe1987 - 27/05/2022 04:27:35 PM 223 Views
He said, not coming up with any retort of his own. Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 09:58:30 PM 231 Views
whooops *NM* Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 09:58:03 PM 156 Views
Oh, fuck off. TyrReborn - 27/05/2022 06:21:45 PM 252 Views
Why is liking the Constitution a binary thing? Roland00 - 27/05/2022 08:36:12 PM 228 Views
As you point out, it isn’t binary at all. damookster - 27/05/2022 09:16:18 PM 260 Views
*NM* Roland00 - 27/05/2022 09:55:28 PM 155 Views
Loyalty is to God, Family, Community, and only then State. TyrReborn - 27/05/2022 09:55:58 PM 236 Views
The founding fathers have a dream, where dreams start and reality begin Roland00 - 27/05/2022 11:39:07 PM 237 Views
This is wonderfully meandering and thought-provoking, but woefully insubstantial for understanding. *NM* TyrReborn - 28/05/2022 12:10:04 AM 153 Views
It is not fionwe1987 - 28/05/2022 07:19:32 AM 229 Views
Re: Oh, fuck off. fionwe1987 - 28/05/2022 06:53:38 AM 243 Views
That's a lot of words to say absolutely nothing. TyrReborn - 28/05/2022 06:56:05 PM 240 Views
When you shut your eyes, of course you can only see nothing fionwe1987 - 28/05/2022 09:43:13 PM 236 Views
A dead child for freedom is the choice made every abortion. TyrReborn - 30/05/2022 08:16:18 PM 233 Views
Oh really? Then explain to me... fionwe1987 - 31/05/2022 08:41:09 PM 260 Views
That baby isn't a baby, but that man is a woman TyrReborn - 01/06/2022 01:57:40 AM 234 Views
How would the world be different Roland00 - 26/05/2022 07:03:22 PM 238 Views
Yes and if my aunt had balls she would be my uncle damookster - 26/05/2022 07:14:08 PM 213 Views
I do not believe the original thread was made with curiosity or charity in mind. Roland00 - 26/05/2022 07:24:20 PM 218 Views
Well isn’t this the pot calling the kettle black. Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 07:33:12 PM 223 Views
Well it is about respectability politics you see Roland00 - 26/05/2022 07:38:59 PM 238 Views
You're one of those men. Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 08:27:53 PM 245 Views
Hypocrisy Roland00 - 26/05/2022 08:42:17 PM 203 Views
I don't know whether English is your first language Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 10:00:04 PM 228 Views
Your attempt at mind reading is an abject failure. damookster - 26/05/2022 07:58:07 PM 222 Views
You started with Foreclosure Roland00 - 26/05/2022 08:08:36 PM 215 Views
Foreclosure, huh damookster - 26/05/2022 08:48:50 PM 224 Views
My advice is listen to the podcast I linked Dragonsoul *NM* Roland00 - 26/05/2022 09:05:13 PM 121 Views
One more thing Roland00 - 26/05/2022 07:25:22 PM 236 Views
And I guess this post proves my point, lol. Dragonsoul - 26/05/2022 07:34:48 PM 225 Views
Did I trigger you? damookster - 26/05/2022 07:50:02 PM 201 Views
You screaming get off my lawn is inherently causes an urge to egg your house *NM* Roland00 - 26/05/2022 08:05:48 PM 127 Views
~soaks Roland with the jet nozzle as I hose the egg off my front porch~ *NM* damookster - 26/05/2022 08:50:22 PM 130 Views
Never owned a gun, but I support gun rights. But... TyrReborn - 27/05/2022 02:51:26 AM 240 Views
I pretty much agree. damookster - 27/05/2022 03:18:38 AM 243 Views
Yep, what Tyr said *NM* Roland00 - 27/05/2022 03:27:33 AM 123 Views
The NY Yankees are now tweeting about guns. Roland00 - 27/05/2022 03:26:45 AM 206 Views
Bah damookster - 27/05/2022 04:25:25 AM 220 Views
Baseball twitter is bad Roland00 - 27/05/2022 04:29:15 AM 207 Views
UPDATE on the shooter, Salvador Ramos damookster - 27/05/2022 03:27:59 PM 255 Views
Can't be more of a disgrace than waiting an hour to go in and kill him. Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 04:05:58 PM 218 Views
Re: Can't be more of a disgrace than waiting an hour to go in and kill him. damookster - 27/05/2022 04:15:22 PM 230 Views
I disagree. Dragonsoul - 27/05/2022 10:02:23 PM 214 Views
And if one of the fathers went in and accidentally killed another child and not the shooter? Roland00 - 27/05/2022 11:46:17 PM 212 Views
Thats a good point, and something I didn’t consider when I wrote my response. Dragonsoul - 28/05/2022 12:08:48 AM 207 Views
Understanding with Madness and all that stuff Roland00 - 28/05/2022 12:50:35 AM 225 Views
It's funny how the left thinks only cops should have guns, but also ACAB. TyrReborn - 27/05/2022 06:15:23 PM 218 Views
They already lost their balls. damookster - 27/05/2022 06:52:52 PM 233 Views
I am glad you protect your family Roland00 - 27/05/2022 08:46:05 PM 209 Views
But see, this is why the death of community and religion is bad for America. TyrReborn - 27/05/2022 10:12:49 PM 219 Views
Charles Whitman took his rifles to the tower at UT Austin in 1966 and killed 14 random people. damookster - 27/05/2022 10:21:42 PM 225 Views
And in May 1928, a maniac bombed a school in Michigan, killing 44. TyrReborn - 27/05/2022 11:46:34 PM 219 Views
I think the presence of visual imagery provides a mimetic response Roland00 - 27/05/2022 11:52:32 PM 231 Views
Reasonable, but even then, that's merely another condemnation for the modern world. TyrReborn - 28/05/2022 12:06:30 AM 220 Views
I agree Roland00 - 28/05/2022 12:56:10 AM 215 Views
I haven't said "bAn GuNs!1" Roland00 - 27/05/2022 11:33:43 PM 233 Views
This is taken from the late Justice Scalia’s majority opinion in 2008’s DC vs. Heller damookster - 27/05/2022 11:50:40 PM 236 Views
Please do not relitigate Heller with me Roland00 - 27/05/2022 11:59:21 PM 234 Views
I wasn’t and will not. damookster - 28/05/2022 01:01:59 AM 214 Views
We would scare them off that is what Roland00 - 28/05/2022 01:43:11 AM 214 Views
You chose wisely damookster - 28/05/2022 02:59:47 AM 228 Views
You did not. My apologies. TyrReborn - 28/05/2022 12:03:43 AM 220 Views
Why not 'harden' all schools and kindergartens with armed guards ? AgentApple - 30/05/2022 03:40:06 PM 218 Views
You're completely right and I hate it. TyrReborn - 30/05/2022 08:24:29 PM 193 Views
Another podcast I enjoyed Roland00 - 27/05/2022 08:26:56 PM 231 Views
This thread is reminiscint of the classic Wotmania debates from the aughts. damookster - 29/05/2022 12:22:47 AM 251 Views
Nobody would like my idea, but personally, I think Korea's 2 year mandatory service would do us good TyrReborn - 30/05/2022 08:30:37 PM 209 Views
Yep there is zero chance that will happen. Roland00 - 31/05/2022 10:32:06 PM 246 Views
Interesting damookster - 31/05/2022 10:56:53 PM 232 Views
Re: Yep there is zero chance that will happen. TyrReborn - 01/06/2022 01:50:37 AM 217 Views
Believe it or not I am not always a Grump Roland00 - 01/06/2022 03:38:16 AM 223 Views
Hot damn, Moolin Rouge was fantastic! *NM* entyti - 01/06/2022 09:36:04 PM 217 Views
What about trans-men entyti - 31/05/2022 10:07:21 PM 237 Views
an intriguing question damookster - 31/05/2022 10:34:39 PM 237 Views
It's all tongue-in-cheek, and isn't that dumb? TyrReborn - 01/06/2022 02:01:04 AM 226 Views
Can the 21 year olds Roland00 - 01/06/2022 03:44:08 AM 235 Views
You know, fair enough. If they're old enough to smoke, and they have a doctor that'll rx it, sure. *NM* TyrReborn - 01/06/2022 03:59:17 AM 127 Views
Something tells me this won't factor in anyone's favor... entyti - 01/06/2022 09:08:31 PM 242 Views
Wait, the *late* conservative Justice Alito? fionwe1987 - 01/06/2022 03:56:19 PM 238 Views
my bad damookster - 01/06/2022 05:09:22 PM 220 Views
The Uvalde Police Department and the Uvalde Independent School District police force are no longer Roland00 - 31/05/2022 11:45:32 PM 265 Views
The Uvalde police incompetence is totally indistinguishable from a cover-up at this point Roland00 - 04/06/2022 07:50:04 PM 266 Views
Until the existing gun laws are actually enforced, I am not willing to entertain any new ones HyogaRott - 09/06/2022 09:55:41 PM 268 Views
Oh yeah, and I am sick of the hyperbolic gaslighting by both sides HyogaRott - 09/06/2022 10:02:25 PM 266 Views
Anarchy, the State, and UTOPIA ! Roland00 - 10/06/2022 08:25:05 PM 230 Views
It gets darker and darker Roland00 - 22/06/2022 02:10:08 AM 219 Views
It's so bad dude. So bad. Those poor souls... *NM* TyrReborn - 30/06/2022 05:04:56 PM 120 Views
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