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It’s in anticipation of stricter gun laws. People who already have plenty of guns load up on even more. Those considering buying their first gun, rush to do so while the window remains open.
It’s in anticipation of stricter gun laws. People who already have plenty of guns load up on even more. Those considering buying their first gun, rush to do so while the window remains open.
Then nothing happens and sales slack off. Until the next incident.
And I completely agree that the ubiquity of guns contributes considerably to the amount of accidents and gun suicides.
The podcast I linked to talks about it (the precise point you are making and the point I feel all 3 of us already knows) about 40 mins in.
To borrow language Pat is not going to use but from an economic background (beautiful mind nonsense from mathematician Nash
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d_dtTZQyUM
This is not irrational, yet is emotional / maddening / madness where we are stuck in an insane system (as individuals and as a society).
This is because we are trapped in a bad system of game theory where everyone's individual choices are rational to that system, but that increases the amount of disorder in the system which causes people to have less faith / trust in the system, which produces more and more guns in the system which produces more accidental death, more domestic abuse,
more people using guns to just fight with their neighbors / strangers in the control of space / they are afraid, so on and so on. And also the more rare causes of gun death but still real and tragic those mass shootings in general, and especially the mass shootings in schools.
*I prefer the term Prisoner's Dilemma for we have known about this phenomena for about 200 years now under various names and Prisoner's Dilemma with all its "double-binds" just feels apt for it is how it feels in the inside. But I linked the Nash clip from a bad movie for movies are fun / familiar. Once again Pat says it better than me in the audio podcast.
This is the Bad Place and there is (almost) No Exit!
If no one else wants to open this can of worms, I guess I’ll have to do it
- 26/05/2022 02:07:18 AM
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Unfortunately, there's not much to say.
- 26/05/2022 04:26:10 PM
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You are not going to get a non emotional discussion about guns, it will never ever be rational
- 26/05/2022 08:04:55 PM
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Re: You are not going to get a non emotional discussion about guns, it will never ever be rational
- 26/05/2022 08:36:34 PM
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There are so many (partial)-solutions and no single one is going to solve it.
- 26/05/2022 09:03:10 PM
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Unfortunately every time there is a mass shooting, gun sales spike.
- 26/05/2022 09:26:09 PM
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Yes
- 26/05/2022 09:55:14 PM
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Re: There are so many (partial)-solutions and no single one is going to solve it.
- 26/05/2022 09:56:23 PM
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Oh yes, everyone is to blame, and hence no one
- 26/05/2022 04:58:37 PM
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You obviously don't know anything about Canada's gun laws.
- 26/05/2022 05:20:25 PM
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Remarkable
- 27/05/2022 03:55:54 AM
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4% PAL acquisition is, in essence, a ban.
- 27/05/2022 04:13:45 AM
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You are the RAFO poster child for inability to hold a rational discussion that includes disagreement
- 26/05/2022 06:50:11 PM
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No, we're just disagreeing on what is rational, that is all...
- 27/05/2022 03:42:23 AM
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You just don’t get it.
- 27/05/2022 04:22:55 AM
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I think the same of you...
- 27/05/2022 05:05:43 AM
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Article VI, Clause II
- 27/05/2022 05:17:40 AM
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You're like a broken record.
- 27/05/2022 05:23:52 AM
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Bro you literally come from a country that plays nuclear chicken with Pakistan.
- 27/05/2022 11:40:07 AM
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And?
- 27/05/2022 02:24:09 PM
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Lol Parody account confirmed.
- 27/05/2022 04:04:56 PM
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Oh, fuck off.
- 27/05/2022 06:21:45 PM
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Why is liking the Constitution a binary thing?
- 27/05/2022 08:36:12 PM
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Loyalty is to God, Family, Community, and only then State.
- 27/05/2022 09:55:58 PM
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The founding fathers have a dream, where dreams start and reality begin
- 27/05/2022 11:39:07 PM
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This is wonderfully meandering and thought-provoking, but woefully insubstantial for understanding. *NM*
- 28/05/2022 12:10:04 AM
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Re: Oh, fuck off.
- 28/05/2022 06:53:38 AM
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That's a lot of words to say absolutely nothing.
- 28/05/2022 06:56:05 PM
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When you shut your eyes, of course you can only see nothing
- 28/05/2022 09:43:13 PM
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A dead child for freedom is the choice made every abortion.
- 30/05/2022 08:16:18 PM
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How would the world be different
- 26/05/2022 07:03:22 PM
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Yes and if my aunt had balls she would be my uncle
- 26/05/2022 07:14:08 PM
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I do not believe the original thread was made with curiosity or charity in mind.
- 26/05/2022 07:24:20 PM
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Well isn’t this the pot calling the kettle black.
- 26/05/2022 07:33:12 PM
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Well it is about respectability politics you see
- 26/05/2022 07:38:59 PM
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You're one of those men.
- 26/05/2022 08:27:53 PM
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Your attempt at mind reading is an abject failure.
- 26/05/2022 07:58:07 PM
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You started with Foreclosure
- 26/05/2022 08:08:36 PM
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One more thing
- 26/05/2022 07:25:22 PM
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Did I trigger you?
- 26/05/2022 07:50:02 PM
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You screaming get off my lawn is inherently causes an urge to egg your house 
*NM*
- 26/05/2022 08:05:48 PM
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*NM*
- 26/05/2022 08:05:48 PM
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~soaks Roland with the jet nozzle as I hose the egg off my front porch~ *NM*
- 26/05/2022 08:50:22 PM
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UPDATE on the shooter, Salvador Ramos
- 27/05/2022 03:27:59 PM
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Can't be more of a disgrace than waiting an hour to go in and kill him.
- 27/05/2022 04:05:58 PM
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Re: Can't be more of a disgrace than waiting an hour to go in and kill him.
- 27/05/2022 04:15:22 PM
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I disagree.
- 27/05/2022 10:02:23 PM
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And if one of the fathers went in and accidentally killed another child and not the shooter?
- 27/05/2022 11:46:17 PM
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Thats a good point, and something I didn’t consider when I wrote my response.
- 28/05/2022 12:08:48 AM
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It's funny how the left thinks only cops should have guns, but also ACAB.
- 27/05/2022 06:15:23 PM
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I am glad you protect your family
- 27/05/2022 08:46:05 PM
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But see, this is why the death of community and religion is bad for America.
- 27/05/2022 10:12:49 PM
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Charles Whitman took his rifles to the tower at UT Austin in 1966 and killed 14 random people.
- 27/05/2022 10:21:42 PM
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And in May 1928, a maniac bombed a school in Michigan, killing 44.
- 27/05/2022 11:46:34 PM
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I think the presence of visual imagery provides a mimetic response
- 27/05/2022 11:52:32 PM
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Reasonable, but even then, that's merely another condemnation for the modern world.
- 28/05/2022 12:06:30 AM
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I haven't said "bAn GuNs!1"
- 27/05/2022 11:33:43 PM
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This is taken from the late Justice Scalia’s majority opinion in 2008’s DC vs. Heller
- 27/05/2022 11:50:40 PM
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Please do not relitigate Heller with me
- 27/05/2022 11:59:21 PM
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- 27/05/2022 11:59:21 PM
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I wasn’t and will not.
- 28/05/2022 01:01:59 AM
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Why not 'harden' all schools and kindergartens with armed guards ?
- 30/05/2022 03:40:06 PM
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This thread is reminiscint of the classic Wotmania debates from the aughts.
- 29/05/2022 12:22:47 AM
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Nobody would like my idea, but personally, I think Korea's 2 year mandatory service would do us good
- 30/05/2022 08:30:37 PM
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Yep there is zero chance that will happen.
- 31/05/2022 10:32:06 PM
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Re: Yep there is zero chance that will happen.
- 01/06/2022 01:50:37 AM
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What about trans-men
- 31/05/2022 10:07:21 PM
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an intriguing question
- 31/05/2022 10:34:39 PM
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It's all tongue-in-cheek, and isn't that dumb?
- 01/06/2022 02:01:04 AM
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Can the 21 year olds
- 01/06/2022 03:44:08 AM
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You know, fair enough. If they're old enough to smoke, and they have a doctor that'll rx it, sure. *NM*
- 01/06/2022 03:59:17 AM
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The Uvalde Police Department and the Uvalde Independent School District police force are no longer
- 31/05/2022 11:45:32 PM
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The Uvalde police incompetence is totally indistinguishable from a cover-up at this point
- 04/06/2022 07:50:04 PM
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Until the existing gun laws are actually enforced, I am not willing to entertain any new ones
- 09/06/2022 09:55:41 PM
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Oh yeah, and I am sick of the hyperbolic gaslighting by both sides
- 09/06/2022 10:02:25 PM
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