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If such rights are left to the states in the Constitution.
If such rights are left to the states in the Constitution.
The Constitution is not gospel. What it says is neither de facto moral, not necessarily even legally sound.
If the state chooses to regulate those rights, the states can regulate as they see fit, since it is the people that elect the legislature which regulates those rights, it is in fact the people deciding which rights, if any require regulation, and which regulations, if any, are suitable.
And this stops at the state level? Why can't a city government do so as well? Before you say anything about the Constitution, I don't give a damn. I'm asking you what fundamental moral or legal reason exists to have the States be the ultimate arbiters of this issue.
That also wasn't the point - the point was that Roe imposed the standard of when life begins on the country - which you previously said no one had a right to do.
It did not. The decision in no way says every individual needs to believe this. If you believe life begins at conception, you can act on that belief and not have an abortion. Roe doesn't mandate that you do.
Changing the subject or shifting the goalposts won't stop everyone from seeing you're a hypocrite who doesn't know what he's talking about.
This is rich coming from you, who spent multiple posts distracting from the subject above.
There's simply no goalpost shifting. Roe did not impose a standard every woman had to follow. It only allowed women to follow their beliefs. Striking down Roe does the opposite to millions of women.
Abortion in the South, and soon, probably all over the country
- 25/04/2022 01:26:45 AM
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Your utter lack of comprehension means you will never evoke any sympathy from me on this
- 26/04/2022 12:42:54 PM
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"The party of "bodily autonomy""
- 26/04/2022 04:51:05 PM
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That is a perverts motte and bailey argument
- 26/04/2022 06:27:51 PM
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The issue is abortion.
- 26/04/2022 07:39:00 PM
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Tell me your feelings about Lochner
- 26/04/2022 07:53:00 PM
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I honestly don't give a fig about the constitution here...
- 26/04/2022 07:00:57 PM
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You can't have your cake and eat it too.
- 26/04/2022 07:42:51 PM
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Uhhh
- 26/04/2022 07:54:13 PM
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I mean, yeah.
- 26/04/2022 09:58:19 PM
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Cannoli is not wrong.
- 26/04/2022 05:09:49 PM
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Was the Catholic Church EVIL .
- 26/04/2022 07:01:50 PM
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As a general rule...
- 26/04/2022 07:06:24 PM
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Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes.
- 26/04/2022 07:32:33 PM
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The people who feel righteousness and can not acknowledge ambiguity well this kingdom will be theres
- 26/04/2022 07:34:10 PM
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Roland, I am neither supporting nor denying any specific theology in my original comment.
- 26/04/2022 08:28:31 PM
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And I am problematizing your claim
- 26/04/2022 08:34:17 PM
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hence, I introduced the problematic existence of exceptions to the law. *NM*
- 26/04/2022 08:54:02 PM
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Theodicy
- 26/04/2022 08:55:50 PM
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and yet...
- 26/04/2022 10:35:58 PM
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What is the Andrea Dworkin line again?
- 26/04/2022 11:06:30 PM
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You're correct about that. We are most assuredly talking past one another.
- 26/04/2022 11:39:01 PM
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I'd say about the same as covering up the child abuse issues.
- 26/04/2022 09:41:21 PM
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Pope Sixtus V In the 1580s is when abortion became a top down / pope and council issue.
- 26/04/2022 10:56:23 PM
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Leaked draft opinion
- 03/05/2022 06:42:20 PM
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John Roberts confirms it is real
- 03/05/2022 07:37:26 PM
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Results were leaked, not opinions.
- 03/05/2022 08:02:10 PM
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If you want to parse the history you are welcome to do so.
- 03/05/2022 08:32:06 PM
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You're either being willfully ignorant or disingenuous
- 03/05/2022 09:26:49 PM
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There's a very simple alternate reason
- 05/05/2022 06:36:26 AM
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“Wants to get the word out there ASAP”
- 05/05/2022 02:02:00 PM
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Re: “Wants to get the word out there ASAP”
- 06/05/2022 09:18:24 PM
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He said, not coming up with any retort of his own.
- 09/05/2022 03:04:07 PM
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Leaking also kind of locks in the 5 justices into a more radical decision
- 05/05/2022 04:08:58 PM
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Obvious intent my ass
- 05/05/2022 06:32:10 AM
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Treasonous Pieces of Junk
- 05/05/2022 01:58:23 PM
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I cannot commit treason
- 06/05/2022 09:20:20 PM
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Neither am I.
- 09/05/2022 03:02:54 PM
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Projecting what?
- 09/05/2022 05:02:59 PM
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Is this a parody account?
- 09/05/2022 05:25:39 PM
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Go look up what it means to “project”
- 13/05/2022 05:04:19 PM
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Stop shifting the goalposts
- 13/05/2022 07:45:21 PM
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actually, Trump was impeached
- 05/05/2022 02:05:16 PM
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Interesting is one word for it...
- 05/05/2022 06:38:23 AM
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That's your thought....
- 06/05/2022 05:34:21 PM
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Hardly just mine
- 06/05/2022 09:23:32 PM
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So popular opinion is what decides recognition of life...
- 06/05/2022 10:44:08 PM
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Nice try
- 07/05/2022 03:19:35 AM
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No one said that, and you know it...
- 07/05/2022 05:56:04 AM
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Well that's a lot of empty noise
- 07/05/2022 02:46:48 PM
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Then stop listening to yourself…
- 07/05/2022 06:56:45 PM
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Serious reading comprehension fail here...
- 08/05/2022 05:01:28 PM
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Not reading comprehension. Thinking comprehension... and it's not on my account
- 09/05/2022 11:04:57 PM
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That is the Catholic Church's position after 1869, but lets do Idaho and LA
- 07/05/2022 10:08:39 PM
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And the Minoans practiced child sacrifice...
- 09/05/2022 11:51:44 PM
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Thanks for explaining why Roe was egregiously wrong.
- 09/05/2022 03:56:52 PM
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Roe imposed nothing
- 09/05/2022 05:05:36 PM
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Roe imposed abortion on states that banned it.
- 09/05/2022 05:26:56 PM
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States rights do not trump individual rights
- 13/05/2022 05:12:13 PM
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States rights regulate individual rights
- 13/05/2022 07:42:52 PM
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I am not allowed to get divorced in my state of Texas if my spouse is pregnant.
- 15/05/2022 07:59:19 PM
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Cool
- 16/05/2022 12:10:57 AM
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So our state energy grid
- 16/05/2022 01:41:50 AM
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Wow, not sure I've seen you so angry before
- 16/05/2022 08:12:58 AM
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Sadomasochism, aka cruelty has been the norm of Texas for a long time.
- 16/05/2022 05:56:26 PM
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Are you off your meds?
- 16/05/2022 12:35:18 PM
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I live in the world the US set up Internment Camps in living memory, I known survivors.
- 16/05/2022 06:00:07 PM
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You're literally arguing with yourself.
- 16/05/2022 08:00:37 PM
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That is precisely what I am afraid of
- 16/05/2022 08:07:41 PM
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That can literally be flipped right on to the other side.
- 16/05/2022 08:19:02 PM
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Just a reminder freedom of movement is not in the US Constitution
- 16/05/2022 08:25:42 PM
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Who the fuck cares?
- 17/05/2022 12:54:48 PM
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a few final thoughts
- 07/05/2022 07:18:38 PM
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In some ways, it probably would've been better if Roe v Wade had never happened.
- 07/05/2022 08:20:17 PM
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*NM*
It did happen though, sorry if I problematize your fantasy you are transversing
- 07/05/2022 10:35:12 PM
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Uh, it wasn't a fantasy... and you didn't problematize it so much as made some vague reflections? *NM*
- 08/05/2022 12:37:23 AM
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The denominational distinctions within Christiandom aren't of concern to me...
- 08/05/2022 05:09:12 PM
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