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Leaking also kind of locks in the 5 justices into a more radical decision Roland00 Send a noteboard - 05/05/2022 04:08:58 PM

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A clerk, whether for a liberal justice or a conservative one, disagrees with the breadth of the ruling and wanted to get the word out there ASAP. While I'm certain you don't see things this way, a vote to make women second class citizens is very likely to inflame passions.

Why the fuck would this change anyone's votes? Gorsuch and Kavanaugh straight up lied to the Senate about they'd vote. If that doesn't give them pause, what is any pro-abortion group possibly do to sway their minds?


Leaking also kind of locks in the 5 justices into a more radical decision. You are not going to soft walk yourself back to some abortion decision (with Roberts) that will allow less abortions even if you slowly chip away at Roe v Wade for there is now the social exposure from the leak.

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Abortion in the South, and soon, probably all over the country fionwe1987 - 25/04/2022 01:26:45 AM 1164 Views
that is the trouble here Roland00 - 25/04/2022 05:02:46 PM 367 Views
Your utter lack of comprehension means you will never evoke any sympathy from me on this Cannoli - 26/04/2022 12:42:54 PM 410 Views
"The party of "bodily autonomy"" Dragonsoul - 26/04/2022 04:51:05 PM 321 Views
That is a perverts motte and bailey argument Roland00 - 26/04/2022 06:27:51 PM 339 Views
The issue is abortion. Dragonsoul - 26/04/2022 07:39:00 PM 317 Views
Tell me your feelings about Lochner Roland00 - 26/04/2022 07:53:00 PM 318 Views
Simple, it was wrongly decided. Dragonsoul - 26/04/2022 09:51:27 PM 294 Views
I think that is enough for the day Roland00 - 26/04/2022 11:07:42 PM 319 Views
I honestly don't give a fig about the constitution here... fionwe1987 - 26/04/2022 07:00:57 PM 349 Views
You can't have your cake and eat it too. Dragonsoul - 26/04/2022 07:42:51 PM 347 Views
Uhhh fionwe1987 - 26/04/2022 07:54:13 PM 303 Views
I mean, yeah. Dragonsoul - 26/04/2022 09:58:19 PM 309 Views
You seem to be arguing with an alternate version of me... fionwe1987 - 27/04/2022 04:46:46 AM 342 Views
Broad popular support? Dragonsoul - 27/04/2022 04:54:49 PM 316 Views
Cannoli is not wrong. damookster - 26/04/2022 05:09:49 PM 369 Views
Cannoli is a contemptuous moron fionwe1987 - 26/04/2022 06:56:33 PM 322 Views
I am contemptuous of you (and I suspect your vocabulary skills) Cannoli - 26/04/2022 09:30:55 PM 371 Views
Was the Catholic Church EVIL . Roland00 - 26/04/2022 07:01:50 PM 345 Views
As a general rule... fionwe1987 - 26/04/2022 07:06:24 PM 311 Views
Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes. Roland00 - 26/04/2022 07:32:33 PM 563 Views
The people who feel righteousness and can not acknowledge ambiguity well this kingdom will be theres Roland00 - 26/04/2022 07:34:10 PM 318 Views
Roland, I am neither supporting nor denying any specific theology in my original comment. damookster - 26/04/2022 08:28:31 PM 300 Views
And I am problematizing your claim Roland00 - 26/04/2022 08:34:17 PM 317 Views
hence, I introduced the problematic existence of exceptions to the law. *NM* damookster - 26/04/2022 08:54:02 PM 194 Views
Theodicy Roland00 - 26/04/2022 08:55:50 PM 360 Views
Re: Theodicy Cannoli - 26/04/2022 09:45:35 PM 326 Views
and yet... damookster - 26/04/2022 10:35:58 PM 356 Views
What is the Andrea Dworkin line again? Roland00 - 26/04/2022 11:06:30 PM 332 Views
You're correct about that. We are most assuredly talking past one another. damookster - 26/04/2022 11:39:01 PM 302 Views
Have not had a drink yet. Roland00 - 26/04/2022 11:46:59 PM 306 Views
I'd say about the same as covering up the child abuse issues. Cannoli - 26/04/2022 09:41:21 PM 359 Views
Pope Sixtus V In the 1580s is when abortion became a top down / pope and council issue. Roland00 - 26/04/2022 10:56:23 PM 369 Views
Leaked draft opinion Jeordam - 03/05/2022 06:42:20 PM 378 Views
John Roberts confirms it is real Roland00 - 03/05/2022 07:37:26 PM 339 Views
Results were leaked, not opinions. Dragonsoul - 03/05/2022 08:02:10 PM 300 Views
If you want to parse the history you are welcome to do so. Roland00 - 03/05/2022 08:32:06 PM 325 Views
You're either being willfully ignorant or disingenuous Dragonsoul - 03/05/2022 09:26:49 PM 329 Views
There's a very simple alternate reason fionwe1987 - 05/05/2022 06:36:26 AM 324 Views
“Wants to get the word out there ASAP” Dragonsoul - 05/05/2022 02:02:00 PM 291 Views
Re: “Wants to get the word out there ASAP” fionwe1987 - 06/05/2022 09:18:24 PM 329 Views
He said, not coming up with any retort of his own. Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 03:04:07 PM 318 Views
Re: He said, not coming up with any retort of his own. fionwe1987 - 09/05/2022 05:01:43 PM 280 Views
Don't blame me for your failures. Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 05:21:48 PM 262 Views
Leaking also kind of locks in the 5 justices into a more radical decision Roland00 - 05/05/2022 04:08:58 PM 302 Views
Precisely. fionwe1987 - 06/05/2022 09:22:16 PM 274 Views
Obvious intent my ass fionwe1987 - 05/05/2022 06:32:10 AM 303 Views
Treasonous Pieces of Junk Dragonsoul - 05/05/2022 01:58:23 PM 299 Views
I cannot commit treason fionwe1987 - 06/05/2022 09:20:20 PM 308 Views
Neither am I. Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 03:02:54 PM 324 Views
Projecting what? fionwe1987 - 09/05/2022 05:02:59 PM 308 Views
Is this a parody account? Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 05:25:39 PM 295 Views
Nope. TyrReborn - 12/05/2022 10:23:24 PM 285 Views
Well, if it's not a parody... Dragonsoul - 13/05/2022 07:46:45 PM 300 Views
Go look up what it means to “project” fionwe1987 - 13/05/2022 05:04:19 PM 297 Views
Stop shifting the goalposts Dragonsoul - 13/05/2022 07:45:21 PM 297 Views
There is no goalpost shifting fionwe1987 - 17/05/2022 12:48:18 PM 318 Views
Parody Account: Hypocrite, or Just Stupid? Dragonsoul - 17/05/2022 07:26:49 PM 326 Views
actually, Trump was impeached damookster - 05/05/2022 02:05:16 PM 308 Views
By Democrats and a few Republicans fionwe1987 - 06/05/2022 09:21:38 PM 332 Views
you wrote: damookster - 06/05/2022 09:34:09 PM 266 Views
Ummm fionwe1987 - 06/05/2022 09:42:57 PM 278 Views
Interesting is one word for it... fionwe1987 - 05/05/2022 06:38:23 AM 294 Views
That's your thought.... Jeordam - 06/05/2022 05:34:21 PM 339 Views
Hardly just mine fionwe1987 - 06/05/2022 09:23:32 PM 269 Views
Interesting... Jeordam - 06/05/2022 10:33:56 PM 326 Views
Roe has restrictions fionwe1987 - 07/05/2022 03:16:32 AM 293 Views
So popular opinion is what decides recognition of life... entyti - 06/05/2022 10:44:08 PM 326 Views
Nice try fionwe1987 - 07/05/2022 03:19:35 AM 260 Views
No one said that, and you know it... entyti - 07/05/2022 05:56:04 AM 291 Views
Well that's a lot of empty noise fionwe1987 - 07/05/2022 02:46:48 PM 300 Views
Then stop listening to yourself… entyti - 07/05/2022 06:56:45 PM 328 Views
Serious reading comprehension fail here... fionwe1987 - 08/05/2022 05:01:28 PM 300 Views
Not reading comprehension. Thinking comprehension... and it's not on my account entyti - 09/05/2022 11:04:57 PM 315 Views
That is the Catholic Church's position after 1869, but lets do Idaho and LA Roland00 - 07/05/2022 10:08:39 PM 305 Views
And the Minoans practiced child sacrifice... entyti - 09/05/2022 11:51:44 PM 294 Views
So we are in agreement if we circle around Roland00 - 10/05/2022 02:34:19 AM 277 Views
Well, we agree it will get worse entyti - 10/05/2022 04:05:33 PM 305 Views
Thanks for explaining why Roe was egregiously wrong. Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 03:56:52 PM 274 Views
Roe imposed nothing fionwe1987 - 09/05/2022 05:05:36 PM 303 Views
Actually, it does impose Jeordam - 09/05/2022 05:19:38 PM 382 Views
Re: Actually, it does impose fionwe1987 - 13/05/2022 05:09:04 PM 294 Views
Roe imposed abortion on states that banned it. Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 05:26:56 PM 318 Views
States rights do not trump individual rights fionwe1987 - 13/05/2022 05:12:13 PM 303 Views
States rights regulate individual rights Dragonsoul - 13/05/2022 07:42:52 PM 317 Views
I am not allowed to get divorced in my state of Texas if my spouse is pregnant. Roland00 - 15/05/2022 07:59:19 PM 326 Views
Cool Dragonsoul - 16/05/2022 12:10:57 AM 312 Views
So our state energy grid Roland00 - 16/05/2022 01:41:50 AM 298 Views
Wow, not sure I've seen you so angry before gban007 - 16/05/2022 08:12:58 AM 336 Views
Sadomasochism, aka cruelty has been the norm of Texas for a long time. Roland00 - 16/05/2022 05:56:26 PM 266 Views
Are you off your meds? Dragonsoul - 16/05/2022 12:35:18 PM 258 Views
I live in the world the US set up Internment Camps in living memory, I known survivors. Roland00 - 16/05/2022 06:00:07 PM 294 Views
You're literally arguing with yourself. Dragonsoul - 16/05/2022 08:00:37 PM 304 Views
That is precisely what I am afraid of Roland00 - 16/05/2022 08:07:41 PM 268 Views
That can literally be flipped right on to the other side. Dragonsoul - 16/05/2022 08:19:02 PM 285 Views
Just a reminder freedom of movement is not in the US Constitution Roland00 - 16/05/2022 08:25:42 PM 306 Views
Again, you put words into my mouth that I've never said. Dragonsoul - 16/05/2022 08:32:38 PM 299 Views
Who the fuck cares? fionwe1987 - 17/05/2022 12:54:48 PM 328 Views
Parody account strikes back! Dragonsoul - 17/05/2022 07:14:24 PM 272 Views
a few final thoughts damookster - 07/05/2022 07:18:38 PM 365 Views
In some ways, it probably would've been better if Roe v Wade had never happened. Legolas - 07/05/2022 08:20:17 PM 312 Views
I can always count on you for rational discussion. *NM* damookster - 07/05/2022 09:19:57 PM 206 Views
He really is wonderful. The Shrike - 09/05/2022 04:29:00 PM 327 Views
Let me join in. Yes. Legolas is good people. *NM* aerocontrols - 10/05/2022 02:52:37 PM 170 Views
It did happen though, sorry if I problematize your fantasy you are transversing Roland00 - 07/05/2022 10:35:12 PM 289 Views
Uh, it wasn't a fantasy... and you didn't problematize it so much as made some vague reflections? *NM* Legolas - 08/05/2022 12:37:23 AM 176 Views
Alternate histories are always fantasies *NM* Roland00 - 08/05/2022 01:03:48 AM 166 Views
History and Histrionic or perhaps Roland00 - 07/05/2022 10:25:23 PM 315 Views
The denominational distinctions within Christiandom aren't of concern to me... fionwe1987 - 08/05/2022 05:09:12 PM 414 Views
There is an easy answer for you. Dragonsoul - 09/05/2022 03:53:42 PM 326 Views
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