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For once I'm more critical than you... well, on one point, anyway. Legolas Send a noteboard - 03/12/2021 01:45:30 PM

View original post01:20 – Don’t tell me we’re dawdling over funeral services. This is just what I signed onto an epic fantasy series for – cleaning dishes, funerals, ladies-only coming of age ceremonies, bathing and dancing.

As you pointed out later, sadly way too much of this episode is taken up by that... one scene, I wouldn't have minded, but this was ridiculous. Episode 4 also deviated a ton from the book, but mostly in ways that made sense for exposition / background purposes. This is just a ton of plain wasting time - as if there wasn't enough plot left to cover in the book.
View original post05:47 – The geography in this setting is broken. The Two Rivers is a few days from Tar Valon, apparently, or else Moiraine and Lan have gone insanely far out of their way. Are they really needed to escort a gentled man?

There was a 'one month later' indication on screen, so that part isn't really the issue with the geography.
View original post08:04 – This view of Tar Valon, the Tower and Dragonmount is a lot more impressive than others I have previously seen. I still don’t like the design. This was built by the finest power-working humans could still recall after the Breaking, at the heights of the capabilities of the Third Age. Being a proportionately slim tower makes it look more like an impossible feat of engineering. This merely looks like a big building that took a lot of time or resources or mundane effort to construct. It also looks like it could have grown up in stages. The White Tower should be a singular work, like a wonder of the world.

You're overlooking the actual problem with the geography: they're on the wrong side of the river. Dragonmount is to the west of Tar Valon, so they should be passing it directly, not seeing it across the river. Based on that view, they're somehow approaching from the east.

Agreed on the WT itself, though TV as a whole does look nice.

Agreed also on many other points, but not going to comment point by point.


View original postLooking back at my first time-stamp, I had no idea what I was getting into. Something like 20% of the episode on three funeral/memorial/burial scenes that do NOTHING to advance the plot and tell us nothing about the Emond's Field main characters and at BEST, vaguely serviced Lan as a 'tragic hero with an unbearable burden of sorrow' type, which misses the mark wildly.

Yeah... and the Egwene/Perrin storyline inbetween is cringeworthy for different reasons, so pretty much a failure across the board here.

I mostly liked Loial and Liandrin is working fairly well so far, even if I'm also apprehensive about where they're planning to go with that... that's about it as far as positives from this episode go.



View original postAnecdotally, Jeff Bezos wanted Amazon to make the "next Game of Thrones." You know what Game of Thrones did to become wildly successful? Adhered as closely as possible within the limitations of adaptation to a different format and budgetary constraints plus the writers' limited comprehension of the themes, setting and characters allowed for the first three seasons. We did not have a good third to half of an episode devoted to the sad backstory of Desmond the Guard.

In fairness, the Song of Ice and Fire books are simply a lot closer to TV writing than the WoT ones - not coincidentally, considering Martin's professional background. It was always going to be necessary to deviate much further from the books in WoT to make the storyline shorter, more focused, more spectacular. But yeah, I defended episode 4 as largely good work despite a few questionable things, but episode 5 is hard to defend.
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