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Re: You're wrong on Moiraine fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 04/09/2021 05:14:39 PM

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I thought it was more her strength limit. When she did all that in the field, she needed to recover, hence Nynaeve medicating her in Shadar Logoth.


No, that’s because she wasn’t very strong in Earth and Fire. If her strength in the Power was the same, and she had Egwene’s strength in Earth and Fire, she wouldn’t have been exhausted to the point of collapse.

Which is more or less what I said. But doing it one at a time, constrained as she is by line of sight, would take too much effort and wear her out.

No, it really wouldn’t. Not in the time scales for this battle, and definitely not in the timescale for the battle in the show.
As long as it's no more than you think it is. Of course the trailer is going to make it all seem a lot more dramatic and over the top, but the way this thing has been promoted, they're going all in on Moiraine the Badass. They seem to be of the school of thought that she's the unsung hero, rather than an antagonist who eventually reforms, and who is, for all her good character traits, not super competent at anything other than channeling and intrigue. Her most important character moment is when she is forced to confront the fact that she is not in charge, she is not the hero and it is not her fight to win. Running with the Tumblr fangirl BESTEST HEROINE EVAR ball is just going to distort the story.

But that’s your idiotic and mean-minded interpretation of the story. The writers would have to be tragically moronic to try and make that nightmare into the TV show.

RJ was telling a story where there is no one hero. Even the Prophesied Savior is most certainly not solely enough, and needs a host of others to guide him and push him to be what he needs to be. And even then, he’d have failed but for the efforts, the expertise, the bravery and the self-sacrifice of others. In fact, Rand isn’t truly ready to face the Dark One till he truly internalizes this truth.

I’m sure it twists your balls in a knot, but for a lot of readers, this is an ensemble of heroes, and we know of the immense amount of courage and heorism Siuan and Moiraine display, especially in the early books, as we learn more later in the series. There’s no reason to not actually show that front and center in the show. We’re not seeing the show from Rand’s perspective, where Moiraine seems like an all knowing antagonist, because of his frankly appalingly narrow worldview, which you swallowed whole without a critical thought in your brain.

Moiraine is heroic. And imperfect. As are they all. And I’m damn glad the show gets that.

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