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Re: You're wrong on Moiraine Cannoli Send a noteboard - 04/09/2021 05:02:20 PM


Moiraine, firstly, doesn't raise a storm. She brings down a single filament of lightning, as far as we see.

Later in EotW, she brings down a steady drumbeat of lightning and thunder at the Whitecloak camp, and of course, before they enter Shadar Logoth, she uses walls of Fire and crests a crazy earthquake to destroy hundreds of Trollocs.

What held her back in Emond's Field, and that seems to hold in the show, correctly, is she didn't want to destroy the village in the process of destroying the Trollocs. In Shadow Rising, we see that with the Trollocs massed, Verin and Alanna cut loose and do a lot of damage, though not having a powerful angreal like Moiraine's and being somewhat weaker, and probably less experienced than her on this front, they're somewhat less impressive in their abilities.


I thought it was more her strength limit. When she did all that in the field, she needed to recover, hence Nynaeve medicating her in Shadar Logoth.

So I think it's wrong to think Moiraine is somehow constrained to a few-on-one dynamic with the Trollocs. She can absolutely take on a band or two, given the right conditions, and end them in a few moments. That holds up based on everything else from the books, too. Agelmar saying that a single Sister is worth a 1000 lances isn't wrong. If anything, it is an understatement, in a situation where the Aes Sedai is just facing an advancing army head-on and can simply unleash slaughter. We saw that with the Aes Sedai who kidnapped Rand against the Shaido. They absolutely had that very large army stalled before Rand started thinning their numbers. And the Whitecloak camp was more of a distraction than firing for effect, so she wouldn't need to use as much effort to control it.


In the Two Rivers, Moiraine fought at the Green, as we see in the show. There's nothing surprising with her and Lan simply owning the battle, there. The Two Rivers folks showed bravery in their own homes. What Moiraine couldn't do is what Rand does at the stone: channel all the energy available to her in such a precise way that lightning strikes every Trolloc in the vicinity, whether in sight, or not.
Moiraine could, and did, destroy any Trolloc she could see.

Which is more or less what I said. But doing it one at a time, constrained as she is by line of sight, would take too much effort and wear her out. As long as it's no more than you think it is. Of course the trailer is going to make it all seem a lot more dramatic and over the top, but the way this thing has been promoted, they're going all in on Moiraine the Badass. They seem to be of the school of thought that she's the unsung hero, rather than an antagonist who eventually reforms, and who is, for all her good character traits, not super competent at anything other than channeling and intrigue. Her most important character moment is when she is forced to confront the fact that she is not in charge, she is not the hero and it is not her fight to win. Running with the Tumblr fangirl BESTEST HEROINE EVAR ball is just going to distort the story.
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