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They're not going to have time for hearings, so it's pretty outrageous fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 25/09/2020 02:44:23 AM

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The president nominating someone and the Senate giving them a vote is normal enough.

Sure.. but not without hearings and stuff. Given the tight time-frame before the election, none of that will happen. That's pretty not-normal.
It was the situation in 2016 that was outrageous, not this - and 2016, in political terms, is ages ago. I just can't get all that upset about Republicans deciding to run with the big opportunity they've been given - what else were they gonna do? Though it would have been interesting to see whether Collins and Murkowski would've taken the same positions they've taken now if they were actually the deciding votes - since they aren't, they are at liberty to follow their more centrist and fair-minded conscience. </Quote>
I agree that 2016 was the more obviously outrageous situation.

<Quote>As I argued more at length in my post below, the real problem of the Dems / liberals isn't that they will soon have a SC minority, but that they need a SC majority/deadlock so badly.


It's more that they cannot afford to have an obstructionist court, especially if they want to respond to the current crises like they want to.

The GOP, remember, also has needed a majority badly. They've been singularly frustrated in their attempts to overturn Roe, ACA, and to expand gun rights even more. That's kinda why they've been so laser focus on locking in a majority in the Court in the first place.

<Quote>Conservatives haven't had a clear, unambiguous majority on the SC in many decades (even though there was a large majority of Republican-appointed justices for much of that time), it shouldn't be such a disaster that they will gain one now. </Quote>
That seems disingenuous, given the major thrusts of their judicial activism.



I don't think Feinstein is the biggest obstacle among Dem senators - Synema and especially Manchin are bigger hurdles. Though I don't believe either Biden or Feinstein will be persuaded, nor obviously the other two.

I don't think those two are major issues with a court expansion, tbh. Neither is looking like they'll vote for whoever Trump nominates now, either.
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