Active Users:879 Time:09/01/2025 04:43:34 PM
Neil Gorsuch wants to get rid of the EPA Roland00 Send a noteboard - 24/09/2020 12:05:54 AM

View original post
So the Dems add a few more Justices? Then the Republicans add a few more next time they are in power. When does it end? And to what purpose? The court is not a super legislature. You want to make law, there's a process for that. Do not rely on the court to do it for you.

That's not why they are there.

~Jeordam


I am referring to Chevron

https://www.vox.com/new-money/2017/2/2/14473728/neil-gorsuch-chevron-deference

Vox though did not mention how Neil Gorsuch's mom was the head of the EPA when Neil was a teenager.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2017/02/01/neil-gorsuchs-mother-once-ran-the-epa-it-was-a-disaster/

But yeah getting rid of Chevron would literally dismantle the ability of Congress to make laws, regulations, and then have the administrative state be able to actually apply the goals of congress in very narrow or broad ways. It would be a return to something similar to Lochner* but also very different.

(The Lochner Era is a time of several decades of the Supreme Court where the SC said you have the right to conscious and right to contract and thus things like minimum wage laws, working condition regulations, income tax, etc are unconstitutional for the court was making up their ideas whole cloth from an idea of reality we would call very Libertarian. This idea of reality was not tied to the actual text of the constitution or the consistency of ideas from 1790 or 1860 but instead said there was a deeper idea that was so deep it was never written down until the court breathed it into being for the court had to stand up and fight the evil legislature who wants to reign in your rights to be free.

And yes I may sound hyperbolic describing Lochner, but it was pure nonsense and thus I do not respect it and I have contempt to that time of our court. It was almost as bad as Dred Scott.)

Reply to message
Addition of Justices to the Supreme Court - 23/09/2020 05:22:49 PM 829 Views
The alternative is Dianne Feinstein living forever (she is 87) - 23/09/2020 07:53:59 PM 225 Views
Eh... - 23/09/2020 08:32:01 PM 254 Views
I have more confidence that Biden is movable. - 23/09/2020 10:01:35 PM 202 Views
Yep... - 23/09/2020 10:34:23 PM 225 Views
Why would you need this? - 23/09/2020 10:57:52 PM 203 Views
Neil Gorsuch wants to get rid of the EPA - 24/09/2020 12:05:54 AM 212 Views
Why do the Republicans? - 24/09/2020 01:26:43 AM 206 Views
Did you seriously write the GOP is indecent when they have a goal ? - 24/09/2020 02:24:10 PM 229 Views
Yes. I very seriously wrote that. One is a party whose leader just yesterday said... - 24/09/2020 03:23:06 PM 241 Views
I agree with you - 25/09/2020 03:41:22 PM 226 Views
Quotes, or you're a liar - 28/09/2020 12:40:27 PM 253 Views
The thing is, their behaviour now, though blatantly hypocritical, isn't particularly outrageous. - 24/09/2020 09:45:35 PM 231 Views
They're not going to have time for hearings, so it's pretty outrageous - 25/09/2020 02:44:23 AM 209 Views
Ok, but - 26/09/2020 03:14:57 PM 221 Views
Because October is not a full month - 26/09/2020 11:32:40 PM 205 Views
You're making an assumption that Herr McConnell won't have the Senate in session - 28/09/2020 04:18:23 PM 231 Views
I said that Greg - 28/09/2020 06:48:28 PM 219 Views
Ja wohl *NM* - 28/09/2020 09:06:30 PM 125 Views
Suddenly I am thinking of capes - 28/09/2020 10:21:13 PM 218 Views
The Sound of Music > The Ten Commandments. *NM* - 29/09/2020 12:34:48 PM 132 Views
Yes - 29/09/2020 01:56:11 PM 265 Views
Moses is a bad performer - 29/09/2020 08:03:53 PM 228 Views
heavy of tongue, huh? - 29/09/2020 09:47:08 PM 229 Views
Heavy tongues and assets. - 29/09/2020 10:26:42 PM 226 Views
So when the Dems loose.... - 23/09/2020 09:34:53 PM 228 Views
Tik for Tak - 23/09/2020 10:03:53 PM 223 Views
Not really.... - 23/09/2020 10:52:15 PM 218 Views
This is about human cognition - 23/09/2020 11:25:01 PM 203 Views
Yes, not really, but from the opposite direction - 24/09/2020 01:24:01 AM 223 Views
Why is this a standard only Democrats should adhere to? - 23/09/2020 10:37:07 PM 223 Views
When Garland was nominated - 23/09/2020 10:51:16 PM 233 Views
Nope... - 24/09/2020 01:25:50 AM 269 Views
I can't see this being a good idea at all. - 24/09/2020 09:27:43 PM 255 Views
I think you give too much credit... - 25/09/2020 03:07:32 AM 225 Views
There's a big difference between state legislation and federal legislation. - 25/09/2020 11:32:26 AM 215 Views
Not really. It'll depend... - 25/09/2020 05:01:12 PM 210 Views
Can't you reply to paragraphs correctly? Having to search for which part is yours is confusing. - 25/09/2020 07:55:03 PM 214 Views
Ah, my bad, sorry! - 25/09/2020 08:57:54 PM 202 Views
Re: the abortion debate - 25/09/2020 10:11:35 PM 208 Views
It can be and it is in plenty of countries, though... *NM* - 25/09/2020 11:11:28 PM 135 Views
Thanks. Been a while since I had one of these exchanges with so many paragraphs... - 25/09/2020 11:10:16 PM 230 Views
And another link... - 30/09/2020 07:07:19 PM 241 Views
Interesting interview on this topic. - 25/09/2020 12:35:11 PM 281 Views
Garbage article with elementary logic - 25/09/2020 06:36:23 PM 279 Views
If the Dems increase the # of justices, are they prepared..... - 29/09/2020 12:17:52 AM 221 Views
You are bad at Game Theory - 29/09/2020 01:35:33 AM 238 Views

Reply to Message