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So my question then is.... Jeordam Send a noteboard - 17/06/2020 06:46:11 PM

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Then an equitable distribution of generated wealth can be made.

As for not living in Paradise, no, we obviously don't. If we did, we wouldn't have people making those choices while billionaires exist.


Why should those workers own it? They didn't come up with the idea. They didn't take the chance with initial capital. They didn't risk anything making that business.

So let me ask you this question. Who are you to covet someone else's blessings? There is nothing wrong (or even sinful) about a billionaire existing. Having money is not a sin. Being poor is not a virtue. If we're sticking to Judaeo-Christian faith, the Bible is very clear that in and who we are...we are equal in the eyes of God. However possessions (and even talents)...we are not equal. To some, He gives more....and that will be the case even in heaven.

~Jeordam

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That yes is for which question? Or is it for both? *NM* damookster - 08/06/2020 08:23:06 PM 206 Views
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Fionwe same as other alt-left crazies Nargs - 16/06/2020 05:24:12 PM 439 Views
I dunno what's "alt" about it. We're the mainstream. Which must scare you fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 06:06:44 PM 383 Views
Dissonance Nargs - 16/06/2020 08:02:08 PM 379 Views
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I'm sure it is, in some conditions. fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 09:43:50 PM 426 Views
I am not a middle aged white man. I'm an old white man. damookster - 16/06/2020 06:15:52 PM 430 Views
Evidence is not on your side, damook *NM* Nargs - 16/06/2020 07:27:39 PM 210 Views
Much like... Jeordam - 16/06/2020 07:34:14 PM 449 Views
Statistically Insignificant Nargs - 16/06/2020 08:07:03 PM 388 Views
Stats don't tell the whole story. damookster - 16/06/2020 08:06:17 PM 376 Views
You're right but on race? Nargs - 16/06/2020 08:08:40 PM 420 Views
Yes, you're right. damookster - 16/06/2020 08:17:04 PM 376 Views
You realize that's not a contradiction, right? fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 09:49:56 PM 404 Views
A few points gban007 - 17/06/2020 09:29:15 PM 395 Views
I wasn't going to say it but... Nargs - 16/06/2020 08:17:57 PM 424 Views
Again: you really are a loathsome little ball of slime. Ghavrel - 10/06/2020 02:11:52 AM 389 Views
It's not my world, it's theirs. Cannoli - 12/06/2020 11:13:14 AM 423 Views
Burning down corporate stores and taking their stolen wealth is a moral good. *NM* Ghavrel - 15/06/2020 12:04:52 AM 212 Views
Stolen Wealth? Jeordam - 15/06/2020 04:50:59 PM 415 Views
How does one determine what is Original Sin? Roland00 - 15/06/2020 05:17:37 PM 405 Views
So then.... Jeordam - 15/06/2020 09:59:31 PM 398 Views
I'm uncertain if this is what Ghavrel meant, but I'd assume you don't need proof that slavery... fionwe1987 - 15/06/2020 07:59:07 PM 395 Views
So we're talking about reparations....? Jeordam - 15/06/2020 09:42:37 PM 407 Views
Why must money solve "all" issues? fionwe1987 - 15/06/2020 11:32:05 PM 382 Views
So then money won't... Jeordam - 16/06/2020 06:09:24 PM 386 Views
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Those aren't codified examples Jeordam - 16/06/2020 07:31:49 PM 390 Views
Well that's some special nonsense fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 09:55:42 PM 406 Views
We're having a discussion...please try and not denigrate me. Jeordam - 17/06/2020 05:26:36 PM 383 Views
But I didn't clearly state I want to denigrate you. You're inferring intent. How's that ok? fionwe1987 - 17/06/2020 06:06:28 PM 391 Views
Pain and Death they *actively* choose... Jeordam - 17/06/2020 06:39:13 PM 420 Views
They make no such choice. Which is why they're out there protesting fionwe1987 - 17/06/2020 07:00:25 PM 436 Views
Sigh Roland00 - 16/06/2020 08:15:12 PM 374 Views
Nah I just straight up think capitalism is evil. Reparations should be paid, though. *NM* Ghavrel - 16/06/2020 09:22:46 AM 189 Views
Fair enough. *NM* fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 02:54:11 PM 184 Views
aaah... Jeordam - 16/06/2020 06:10:16 PM 401 Views
Re: Stolen Wealth? Ghavrel - 16/06/2020 09:21:32 AM 372 Views
Rather it should be The State? *NM* damookster - 16/06/2020 12:10:59 PM 187 Views
What is "the State" fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 02:57:34 PM 376 Views
my comment was directed to Ghavrel. damookster - 16/06/2020 04:49:39 PM 375 Views
You shouldn't make assumptions... fionwe1987 - 16/06/2020 06:10:02 PM 387 Views
Lemme tell you about this cool thing called syndicalism... *NM* Ghavrel - 17/06/2020 06:46:38 AM 201 Views
There's a lot I like about that... *NM* fionwe1987 - 17/06/2020 06:07:47 PM 175 Views
Syndicalisme révolutionnaire, peut-être? *NM* damookster - 17/06/2020 06:29:00 PM 173 Views
I'm actually still a reformist, believe it or not. *NM* Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 03:29:18 PM 189 Views
Bah *NM* damookster - 18/06/2020 03:36:20 PM 171 Views
I been thinking about the different religious sects of Himboism, suddenly ... Roland00 - 29/06/2020 01:30:09 AM 362 Views
The only state with legitimacy is the Kingdom of Heaven. *NM* Ghavrel - 16/06/2020 08:57:26 PM 181 Views
Are we talking about the Mormon Sect? Roland00 - 16/06/2020 09:06:14 PM 363 Views
My bad damookster - 16/06/2020 10:20:14 PM 389 Views
In fairness, I usually talk policy goals as a social democrat. Ghavrel - 17/06/2020 12:34:45 AM 377 Views
They The Shrike - 17/06/2020 06:29:35 PM 409 Views
damookster - 17/06/2020 06:40:30 PM 413 Views
I go by she and her, but thank you. <3 *NM* Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 03:45:46 PM 203 Views
I try to be very sensitive to this. damookster - 18/06/2020 03:55:01 PM 408 Views
It means a great deal to me. I can't overstate how much it means to your grandson. *NM* Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 04:04:53 PM 211 Views
Catholicism by itself is a Performance Arts Piece Roland00 - 18/06/2020 01:17:45 AM 382 Views
A Catholic?! What?! I'm an Episcopalian. Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 03:45:24 PM 419 Views
No thanks. Not into non-democracies. *NM* The Shrike - 17/06/2020 06:26:29 PM 184 Views
Ah a fellow Devil's Party Member. *NM* Roland00 - 18/06/2020 01:13:37 AM 170 Views
I can empathize with this view, actually, though I no longer hold it. *NM* Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 03:47:24 PM 203 Views
That's the debate, isn't it. Jeordam - 16/06/2020 06:16:10 PM 370 Views
Economists have been arguing this for over 400 years. Roland00 - 16/06/2020 08:22:57 PM 374 Views
You could let the market determine that, I guess. Ghavrel - 16/06/2020 08:56:23 PM 387 Views
Because we do not live in Paradise. Jeordam - 17/06/2020 05:36:58 PM 366 Views
Exactly. So the worker should own the means of production with other workers. Ghavrel - 17/06/2020 06:11:21 PM 373 Views
So my question then is.... Jeordam - 17/06/2020 06:46:11 PM 400 Views
Sigh...I just can't not. Roland00 - 18/06/2020 01:20:09 AM 345 Views
You know "talent" in the Bible is explictly referring to money, right? Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 03:43:11 PM 406 Views
Jesus also said it is easier for a camel to pass though a needle's eye... damookster - 18/06/2020 03:49:43 PM 368 Views
This is true! Ghavrel - 18/06/2020 04:04:16 PM 424 Views
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"Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel." *NM* Ghavrel - 16/06/2020 09:19:26 AM 184 Views
"Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's" *NM* damookster - 16/06/2020 12:13:15 PM 161 Views
Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall. *NM* The Shrike - 16/06/2020 12:15:04 PM 175 Views
"Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you..." *NM* Ghavrel - 16/06/2020 10:15:41 PM 191 Views
Is a concern of mine gban007 - 08/06/2020 10:16:09 PM 421 Views
A natural experiment fionwe1987 - 08/06/2020 10:42:34 PM 370 Views
Yes, we probably will. But demonstrators wearing masks are not normal life. Ghavrel - 09/06/2020 07:10:31 AM 409 Views
I'm not sure that's a valid comparison. damookster - 09/06/2020 05:57:31 PM 367 Views
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Down South that is called Communism Mookie. Roland00 - 09/06/2020 06:32:06 PM 375 Views
Alabama is down south, right? aerocontrols - 09/06/2020 10:08:15 PM 379 Views
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We have all the same rules here in Seattle Bad Ash - 10/06/2020 07:45:59 PM 392 Views
I figured you aerocontrols - 09/06/2020 10:09:36 PM 376 Views
About your original question... fionwe1987 - 17/06/2020 09:25:38 PM 397 Views
that is encouraging damookster - 17/06/2020 09:44:10 PM 406 Views
Re: that is encouraging fionwe1987 - 17/06/2020 10:10:34 PM 372 Views
Seems indoors with strangers is more a predictor than outdoor protests. Roland00 - 27/06/2020 02:38:07 AM 474 Views
Tips, maybe? fionwe1987 - 27/06/2020 05:10:30 AM 414 Views
Perhaps Roland00 - 27/06/2020 10:19:39 PM 343 Views
A 315 city study, BLM protests did not cause a spike in COVID cases. Roland00 - 27/06/2020 10:19:05 PM 381 Views
Sigh, here is some bad news. Case Reports and a Lab study suggests COVID may cause type 1 diabetes Roland00 - 28/06/2020 06:11:45 AM 344 Views
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