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Are you disagreeing with the branding, or the actual ask? fionwe1987 Send a noteboard - 12/06/2020 04:32:36 PM

I'm with you that "defund the police" is a bad phrase. It feels emotionally satisfying, but doesn't even fit the set of reforms being pushed.

I think unbundle the police sounds dumber but more accurate. Do you disagree with that? Ie. not having the police responsible for mental health crises, drug possession, traffic violations, etc? Do you disagree with not spending money on purchase and maintenance of military equipment for the police? None of these are acceptable aspects of American policing, and they contribute to the awfulness people are protesting against.

You said something about never let a crisis go to waste. It came out as an insult, but I think that's exactly the attitude you should want, in a democracy.

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Whatever the rationale, defunding the police is a bad idea. Even Bernie agreed with that. *NM* damookster - 12/06/2020 03:27:29 PM 186 Views
Are you disagreeing with the branding, or the actual ask? fionwe1987 - 12/06/2020 04:32:36 PM 306 Views
Second Roland00 - 12/06/2020 05:42:05 PM 314 Views
It depends on who's asking. damookster - 12/06/2020 06:55:34 PM 308 Views
LA schools police will return grenade launchers but keep rifles, armored vehicles Roland00 - 12/06/2020 07:11:36 PM 397 Views
Wow. What an absolutely insane sentence. *NM* fionwe1987 - 12/06/2020 07:13:42 PM 195 Views
A six year old news article? Is it even still relevant? *NM* damookster - 12/06/2020 08:39:44 PM 183 Views
It is extremely relevant Roland00 - 12/06/2020 09:09:33 PM 302 Views
That's bizarre. You position changes based on who you're talking to? fionwe1987 - 12/06/2020 07:12:47 PM 310 Views
yes because some have an agenda I can't accept. damookster - 12/06/2020 08:36:15 PM 366 Views
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No, I would be Uncle-Uncle *NM* damookster - 12/06/2020 08:40:56 PM 199 Views
Sounds like one of those damned forsaken Time Loops. Roland00 - 12/06/2020 09:12:27 PM 321 Views
Yeah that's you letting your perception of what "far" left is get in the way of fionwe1987 - 12/06/2020 11:02:22 PM 329 Views
Did you see this? It's brilliant Tom - 08/06/2020 02:07:30 AM 430 Views
I did indeed. LiterateDog - 09/06/2020 08:50:04 AM 354 Views
I've read Joe's post on FB and the study it referred to. Legolas - 04/06/2020 07:29:12 PM 360 Views
Some of what you write is reasonable. LiterateDog - 04/06/2020 07:52:14 PM 390 Views
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Maybe the term isn't right gban007 - 05/06/2020 05:41:59 AM 364 Views
More bullshit! Tom - 05/06/2020 11:14:49 PM 331 Views
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You can't legislate away bigotry, though, in any country, ever Tom - 08/06/2020 02:04:41 AM 336 Views
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and another point gban007 - 06/06/2020 03:37:45 AM 336 Views
A modest proposal *NM* Roland00 - 05/06/2020 07:14:50 AM 197 Views
0.1% should be unarmed blacks *NM* Tom - 05/06/2020 11:16:12 PM 211 Views
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Who said otherwise? That actually shows the VIRTUES of the system. Cannoli - 05/06/2020 06:46:10 PM 365 Views
Wait so that is your complaint? SERIOUSLY? Roland00 - 05/06/2020 11:10:04 PM 318 Views
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You really are a loathsome little ball of slime. *NM* Ghavrel - 06/06/2020 01:08:22 PM 197 Views
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Daniel Shaver had a BAC 3 times the legal limit. aerocontrols - 05/06/2020 03:38:27 AM 329 Views
Never gonna happen Cannoli - 05/06/2020 07:13:57 PM 346 Views
Re: Soooo, it turns out that George Floyd had drugs in his system Narg - 05/06/2020 04:45:41 PM 348 Views
??? aerocontrols - 05/06/2020 05:23:34 PM 318 Views
My question is not why George Floyd said he can't breathe... Narg - 05/06/2020 05:44:47 PM 364 Views
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Posting something a literal Karen made. Roland00 - 06/06/2020 01:50:54 AM 434 Views
A Karen is a moron Cannoli - 09/06/2020 06:42:11 PM 370 Views
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