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Agreed, but I still mostly liked it. damookster Send a noteboard - 23/12/2019 05:17:12 PM

Turns out that all you need to fetch an uncountable fleet is for Lando to ask. He did destroy the second Death Star, there was his little maneuver at the Battle of Taanab, and Leia's basically just spent six movies leading people into trash compactors, so I can see WHY everyone comes when HE calls. Just kind of wondering why it took so long to get him to make the calls.


That Billy Dee is one charming dude.



Oh, and it turns out that Leia DID get trained as a Jedi. She trained until she got good enough to beat Luke and then quit, gave him her light saber and went around doing stuff on her own, like NOT telling Poe "No, you don't understand, I have the Force, I can FEEL that your attack is going to go badly." Like NOT training Rey instead of sending her to find Luke. Like NOT doing anything to protect Admiral Akbar and the rest of the bridge crew from being blasted into space by the spawn of her loins. Trash. Compactor.

Yeah I guess the only point served by this back story was to validate how Leia could complete Rey's training. Rey calling her Master Leia in the beginning certainly gave that away.



Why did we need female voices whispering to Rey? We don't know them. No female Jedi say anything important until Rey shows up. More dialogue from the Jedi we DID know might have helped us notice who they were. I THINK Obi Wan & Qwi-Gon were in there, but with all the irrelevant voices muttering, you couldn't be sure or pick them out. I only really heard Luke, Yoda & Mac Windu.

Anakin was in there too.




It's very amusing to think of the reactions to all the people who defended tLJ and the arguments that have been invalidated by this movie, like the thing that getting away from the Jedi-Sith conflict is the best thing, and they need to finally bring balance by having someone who's both or by uniting them together. These are NOT two different points of view. Obi-Wan made allowances for the idea of different points of view, but not for one moment did he ever show he thought there was some value to the Sith or the Dark Side of the Force. Anger, fear and aggression are the Dark Side, and hate makes you powerful in the Dark Side. The Sith are about nothing other than empowering themselves through awful means and letting the worst sorts of people be their bad selves. I can see reforming and improving the Jedi order, sure. But Light and Dark sides of the Force are incompatible, fuck you very much Troy Denning, Gray Jedi are bullshit and the Jedi and Sith cannot cooperate or share anything.

And it turns out that everything they extrapolated from Rian Johnson's iconoclasm-for-its-own-sake is all bullshit. It comes down to Light Side and Dark Side, Ben & Rey are not intended to bring the two halves together, Ben's Dark Side involvement was a mistake.


Totally agree. I hated TLJ and its underlying many shades of gray morality. Star Wars has always been about the sharp divide between good and evil. Light and dark are incompatible. Period.




Also, all the people talking about how great it is that Not Everyone Is From the Elite Special Family That Smacks Vaguely of Aristocracy and Primogeniture... yessssss?

Yeah this was awesome. She's not from the Skywalker family tree,(at least not directly), she's Palpatine's granddaughter! I loved that part even if many fanboys saw it coming.




It's okay, I know what you're going to say - Corporate Disney caved to all the Alt-Right fascist complainers and this ramshackle film is the fault of everyone who hated tLJ. You don't even need to say anything.

Maybe they did. And I'm fine with that.

The parts I didn't like were around Palpatine. No real explanation of how he survived. He appeared to be a mostly dead body being kept alive on life support and by his Dark Side spirit until he got restored by stealing life force from BenRey. But how did he make it out of the shaft? And since he obviously did, why did he think throwing Ben down a shaft would kill him? Why didn't draining enough force from BenRey to reanimate himself kill both of them?
Also, I know Dark Side Force lightning is powerful but when did it become enough to wipe out an entire fleet? Plus, if your reflected lightning is killing you, wouldn't you stop using it?


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