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Aaaaaahhhh......things begin to focus. Jeordam Send a noteboard - 31/10/2018 05:29:25 PM

You work in a college campus. Things brings several things into alignment. I, on the other hand, work in Corporate America. I have since I earned my undergrad. So working through the examples you brought up....

1) Students fearful of their friends who are suddenly facing the possibility of deportation (for whatever reason, which has no bearing on the discussion), or their entry back into the country may be difficult...
- So if the student is here illegally. There's not much to say. I have compassion for the person. I have compassion for the situation. At the end of the day, they are here illegally. They have no right to be here. Whether it's been their home for their entire lives is besides the point. We, as a nation, need to find a solution for this group of individuals. Either they have a path to citizenship, they have to leave, or something in between. Ultimately, we are a nation of laws, and they are breaking one.

- If the student is from a nation on the banned list. What can one possibly say about this? That group of nations on the list isn't because they are "Muslim Countries", but instead because their State Department is not robust enough assist in the vetting process of possible terrorists. We have had a problem with Terrorist Activities here in the States. This is not an unreasonable thing.

2) Access to Contraception and his ability to take it away.

- You know what Trump can't do? Stop you from buying a product at the Pharmacy. Do those women want to buy contraception? They can go buy it. Can't afford it? Not my problem. Is this harsh? Absolutely. But having sex is not a human right.

3) A demagogue take power and threaten core pillars of the world you live in.

- I'd ask if you are joking, but I know that you are not. Not about the demagogue part, but the "core pillars" part. Fear of someone you know and their immigration status and contraception access are "core pillars" of their world? Yet I see in academia the actual core pillars of our society frayed around the edges. Can't have a conservative speaker....that's hate speech. I even saw a report that said a notable percentage of students think that violence is acceptable to stop perceived hate speech.

Their view of "core pillars" is seriously limited. I don't blame them for this though. I remember being in school. You think that because you are there, that your world is wide open and you are seeing it all. You aren't. You're seeing the world as viewed from someone inside a bubble. Most of those students don't know challenge or sacrifice. Passing a test or not going to a party so they can write a paper is neither a challenge nor sacrifice. They still think that they have "earned" that Spring Break. A whole week off to party without consequences.

When they get out of school and don't have parental resources to fall back upon, then they will begin to see those "core pillars". When their degree doesn't get them the job they want, but instead they have to work the job they have...just to survive. Then they are on the way. When they get to decide between getting the latest/greatest phone, or keeping their old one so that they can keep food/rent/bills current...that's sacrifice.

Like I wrote in a different post, I am not laughing or finding amusement in their pain. I'm exasperated and concerned that they are crumbling to such a degree under so little pressure. In regards to Trump, I may not like everything that he says, but I am liking more and more of what he does. I'm still awaiting a discussion on this board of the things that he has done...

~Jeordam

ex-Admin at wotmania (all things wot & art galleries)
Saving the Princess, Humanity, or the World-Entire since 1985
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Aaaaaahhhh......things begin to focus. - 31/10/2018 05:29:25 PM 322 Views

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