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Yes, his attitude. Legolas Send a noteboard - 09/10/2018 08:06:15 PM

View original postFor a good Christian man to be accused of an incredibly heinous crime, a man with two daughters, a man who has spent his entire adult career attempting to be as just as possible, is, in my opinion, exactly the sort of thing he should be mad about

We agree that he had a right to be mad - at least, assuming that he is innocent, or entirely convinced of his innocence. Which I'm not quite sure about, but I'll accept it for the sake of the argument.

Though I don't know what his having two daughters has to do with anything.

View original postLike, seriously. Put aside your own personal feelings about whether he actually did it or not, for a few minutes, and look at it from his perspective. These people were out, fairly or not, destroying this mans image in a very public way. Were he some CEO being falsely accused of these things, he could very easily be suing for both libel and slander, and I fault him not at all for being angry. Again, whether you believe the accusations or not, it was incredibly apparent that the Democrats were entirely to blame for his good name being run through mountains of shit.

Here's where your argument runs into the ground. It looks likely, though 'incredibly apparent' is rather subjective as I'm sure you'll agree, that at least some Democrats politicians are responsible for manipulating the timing of Ford's accusations becoming public. But after Ford's testimony, which even the Republicans nearly unanimously described as compelling and believable, I don't see too many serious suggestions of her accusations being completely made up anymore. Avenatti's stories are another matter entirely, and Ramirez seems to be somewhere inbetween, but for Ford, the mainstream Kavanaugh defense has been adjusted to the belief that she must be honestly mistaken in the identity of the person who assaulted her.

In other words, while those accusations would have been naturally very upsetting to Kavanaugh, the only part for which he could really blame Democrats was the way they - probably - manipulated the timing to release it at the most devastating moment, instead of releasing it the moment Feinstein caught wind of Ford's story in July. If not for that, he might have had a comparable hearing about a month and a half earlier, except it wouldn't have been as rushed and there would have been less time pressure to confirm him as soon as possible. I'm not sure how much more comfortable that would've been to him personally, though it certainly would've been more comfortable to Trump and the Senate Republicans, who would've been free to dump Kavanaugh and try another candidate if it started to look bad.

For the worst part of it, the accusation itself - well, he couldn't really blame anyone other than his very poor luck to have become the mistaken object of Ford's suspicions. Shit happens.

So uh, yeah, his unbalanced and frankly paranoid attacks on the Democrats, talks about 'revenge for the Clintons' and his overblown rhetoric about how consequential the allegations against him were, were way over the top. They would've been considered unbalanced even for a politician, and if a female politician had gone even nearly as far, her career would've been dead in the water.

But Kavanaugh, of course, wasn't actually supposed to be a politician, but an impartial judge who was nominated to be a justice on the Supreme Court. Unlike politicians, judges are expected not to be guided by their personal feelings or their private theories, but by the facts before them - and they are expected to be capable themselves of the kind of reasonable, mature behaviour that they would expect the accused at their trials to exhibit. Even when wrongfully accused of something they didn't do.


View original postSo yeah, the Democrats crying about his unsuitable demeanor was absolutely simply another tactic to try and politically assassinate this man.

Nonsense, and it's not only the Democrats pointing out his unsuitable demeanour. In fact, he felt sufficiently ashamed of it himself, or if you want to be cynical was sufficiently persuaded that he needed to look ashamed even if he wasn't, that he went and wrote that WSJ piece to apologize for it. In addition to his personal apology to senator Klobuchar during the hearings. That he apologized is a point in his favour, yes, but it doesn't mean we can simply forget all about it.
View original postAs to whether he did or not, well, I personally don't think he did, but you can blame that on these other women, accusing him of drugging and participating in gang-rape, or repeatedly exposing himself to other people... which were incredibly ridiculous claims, and should never have even been taken seriously by anyone. But of course, the Dem's wanted to give them credibility too, which... just added to the belief that everything they were doing was equally ridiculous.

The only thing they were 'doing' with Ford was, probably, delaying the release of her accusation. Avenatti's claims may be ridiculous, but they don't do anything to change the credibility of Ford's.
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