It may not have been true several decades ago, but it certainly is now.
Legolas Send a noteboard - 28/08/2018 07:12:47 PM
View original postAs Cannoli wrote, Fox has always been treated as the other, attacked for supposedly low quality repeatedly even on Wotmania's heyday.
A good part of that criticism is because Fox does in fact love scaremongering, but fine, whatever. It's not about whether the liberal media is right or wrong to bash Fox - it's about whether Fox actually has the power and the influence. Seems pretty hard to deny that it does. So if Shapiro or certain other conservatives keep railing against 'the media' as if 'the media' were some nefarious left-wing monolithical entity, that's just because playing the underdog is nice for propaganda purposes.
View original postI recall seeing 'Arrival' last year. A very good product of Hollywood. Spoilers for this paragraph: There's a bit there when the linguist scientist is on her way to her car, right after her lecture is cancelled but before she is recruited. She is talking with her mom, and you can only hear her side of the conversation. She says something like, "No mom, we don't yet. Well, I told you not to listen to that channel. Those people are always playing up the hysteria" or something like that. She doesn't need to name the channel because you know what Hollywood means because it's been harped by the media forever.
Hollywood is obviously left-wing, yes - see my reply to Cannoli for some further thoughts on that.
View original postThere is a parallel situation in the Israeli media, btw. It used to be you had 3 major newspapers, one on the left (Haaretz) and two others more centric. However, all three papers were always very anti-Netanyahu and mostly anti-Likud.
That would be Maariv and Yedioth Ahronoth?
View original postBut this became evident only when a 4th paper ("Israel Hayom"
was started which took a pro-Netanyahu approach. Before this new paper I dare say people were like fish oblivious to the water. Israel Hayon is now the biggest paper but it would be disingenuous to call it part of the media, or media establishment. It was also the subject of attempted legislation aimed at curbing its circulation by disallowing free papers.
was started which took a pro-Netanyahu approach. Before this new paper I dare say people were like fish oblivious to the water. Israel Hayon is now the biggest paper but it would be disingenuous to call it part of the media, or media establishment. It was also the subject of attempted legislation aimed at curbing its circulation by disallowing free papers.Pro-Netanyahu or pro-Bennett? As much as I dislike Netanyahu, he's been looking like the hostage of the far-right for a good while now, at least from an outsider's perspective...
Anyhow, to get back to the point, your argument makes as little sense as Cannoli's. According to Wikipedia, Israel Hayom has the largest readership of all Israeli newspapers, so that makes it a pretty big player in 'the media', as long as it's allowed to operate of course. And here as well, the government is in the hands of the parties it supports. Whether the other three major newspapers, or the political left, like it or not is pretty immaterial.
Ben Shapiro totally nails it with today's column about John McCain
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Re: Ben Shapiro totally nails it with today's column about John McCain
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So I've got to ask.
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when you say "every other American conservative," do you mean literally every second one?
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I didn't exactly count them. 
But it sometimes sure seems like it.
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But it sometimes sure seems like it.
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Fox and the mainstream...
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Except the left persists on treating Fox as a partisan aberration and CNN & MSNBC as mainstream
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That would be true, if historical context was not a thing
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It may not have been true several decades ago, but it certainly is now.
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Liberal Media / The Media is a mental shortcut
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~displays Reactance to being called out for employing rhetorical heuristics~
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Toby / West Wing: Fartoost. Don't bring the Yiddish unless you know what you're doing.
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Farshteyn is the Yiddesh equivalent of the Italian, Capice.
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Mookie if you were a Chris
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I heard 240 papers endorsed Clinton
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Yeah, that's not a particularly representative election to pick, is it?
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McCain was definitely a Thor
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I hesitate to ask this
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Gives Mookie the Look *NM*
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couldn't do it, huh? 
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McCain was a huge ABBA fan, Thor would dance to ABBA, thus John McCain was definitely a Thor
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