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Here you are being too optimistic. Sadly for the US and the world. The Shrike Send a noteboard - 15/06/2018 05:55:14 PM

But call me an optimist, I don't think Trump voters will let themselves be taken for fools forever.

It doesn't matter to them. The polarization of politics here is quite complete that there is almost no room for centrists or independent thought. The fact that Trump has the (R) next to his name is all that matters.

I am just hoping to see the House and/or Senate flip in 2018 so we have divided government here and then there can be greater checks on the executive.

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So. Trump and the little rocket man. Legolas - 13/06/2018 10:09:45 PM 942 Views
Typical nonsense Cannoli - 13/06/2018 11:12:19 PM 560 Views
Wow, I get line by line commentary... nice. Legolas - 14/06/2018 12:22:12 AM 462 Views
Actually, the article that got the commentary, I left your not-particularly risible words alone Cannoli - 14/06/2018 06:12:58 AM 581 Views
The point is, in a negotiation, it's about what things are worth to the other side - not to you. Legolas - 14/06/2018 08:04:30 AM 478 Views
Mostly agree with you AgentApple - 14/06/2018 10:25:35 AM 484 Views
Terrifying if Trump's emotive language is genuine kHz1000 - 13/06/2018 11:27:37 PM 619 Views
Have you ever worked with someone... Jeordam - 14/06/2018 05:03:19 PM 488 Views
Re: Have you ever worked with someone... kHz1000 - 15/06/2018 09:14:50 PM 598 Views
So less on the article... Jeordam - 14/06/2018 05:01:26 PM 484 Views
didn't you know that joint military operations are all the keep them from rolling of South Korea???? *NM* random thoughts - 14/06/2018 07:23:12 PM 287 Views
As I said to Cannoli - it's not about what it costs the US, but about what it's worth to North Korea Legolas - 14/06/2018 07:26:43 PM 509 Views
Trump doesn't care what Kim and North Korea pretend... damookster - 14/06/2018 07:48:26 PM 475 Views
It certainly seems that way. Legolas - 14/06/2018 11:14:58 PM 482 Views
The conservative never-Trumpers hate him as much, if not more, than the liberals. damookster - 14/06/2018 11:36:46 PM 464 Views
As they should. Legolas - 15/06/2018 12:02:40 AM 486 Views
What real worlkd gains does Norht Korea get? random thoughts - 14/06/2018 08:40:32 PM 476 Views
So let them think it... Jeordam - 14/06/2018 10:21:46 PM 507 Views
Funny how it went from Trump is going to start WWIII to Trump caved random thoughts - 14/06/2018 07:21:44 PM 526 Views
Um, yes. Trump radically changed his position, so the media descriptions changed too? Legolas - 14/06/2018 07:40:37 PM 474 Views
The problem is the media posistion is always the same, Trump is wrong. random thoughts - 14/06/2018 08:30:38 PM 465 Views
That would be more convincing if you said it in a case where he was right. Legolas - 14/06/2018 09:17:43 PM 472 Views
I don't agree... gban007 - 14/06/2018 09:37:23 PM 474 Views
I agree with this. damookster - 14/06/2018 10:08:27 PM 509 Views
They're not contradictory - just a bit more subtle than having two binary options. Legolas - 14/06/2018 11:01:39 PM 608 Views
Well gban007 - 15/06/2018 12:03:41 AM 492 Views
Here you are being too optimistic. Sadly for the US and the world. The Shrike - 15/06/2018 05:55:14 PM 482 Views
I'd say it was mostly the Democrats who caused and are causing this divide. AgentApple - 20/06/2018 09:07:58 AM 552 Views
If you think it's mostly Democrats, you're partisan enough to be a part of the problem. The Shrike - 20/06/2018 12:29:38 PM 470 Views
I'm *kinda* with you? Jeordam - 20/06/2018 04:20:46 PM 500 Views
Ratings are creeping up because of outrage fatigue ? That makes no sense. AgentApple - 20/06/2018 09:02:17 AM 496 Views
Sure it does. Legolas - 22/06/2018 10:02:39 PM 498 Views
It's a start, albeit a very weak start. The Shrike - 15/06/2018 05:49:27 PM 468 Views
Wouldn't that be ironic? damookster - 15/06/2018 06:03:37 PM 504 Views
Nothing here *NM* kHz1000 - 15/06/2018 09:10:51 PM 303 Views
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