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I can't speak for the present with too much information is unknown Roland00 Send a noteboard - 03/02/2018 04:51:14 AM

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I've been against the FISA warrant procedure for years now, so it would be hypocritical of me to support the procedure in this particular instance. Similarly, people who support FISA warrants in general are acting foolishly by pretending that this was anything other than business as usual in a FISA court.

But the last two weeks of "release the memo" is reminding me way too much of a historical event long in the past but to me feels very relevant today.

"The State Department is infested with communists. I have here in my hand a list of 205—a list of names that were made known to the Secretary of State as being members of the Communist Party and who nevertheless are still working and shaping policy in the State Department.

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So that memo was released.... Jeordam - 02/02/2018 06:59:35 PM 1638 Views
"God's in His heaven— All's right with the world!" Roland00 - 02/02/2018 07:14:41 PM 1231 Views
Just reading the memo is indeed the best approach, I just did too. Legolas - 02/02/2018 08:20:01 PM 1232 Views
I find it hard to believe the Obama appointees in the DoJ did not know where the dossier came from *NM* AgentApple - 02/02/2018 09:17:06 PM 623 Views
As do I. Was that supposed to have any relevance to my post? *NM* Legolas - 02/02/2018 09:34:57 PM 651 Views
Re: As do I. Was that supposed to have any relevance to my post? AgentApple - 02/02/2018 10:37:21 PM 1120 Views
Yes, you did misunderstand me then. Legolas - 03/02/2018 12:17:27 AM 1156 Views
yes, that's makes sense. AgentApple - 03/02/2018 09:41:46 AM 1045 Views
It does bring up more questions... Jeordam - 02/02/2018 10:53:01 PM 1163 Views
Seems you already decided on some answers in advance, though. Legolas - 03/02/2018 01:53:00 AM 1035 Views
With over 34,000 FISA applications just 12 (not 12,000 or 1200 or 120) were denied. Tom - 03/02/2018 04:07:24 PM 1147 Views
Correction: "just under", not "over" 34,000 Tom - 03/02/2018 10:08:54 PM 1079 Views
Bah! LiterateDog - 03/02/2018 11:53:05 PM 1111 Views
Ok, I really did laugh out loud at that Tom - 06/02/2018 09:16:50 PM 1037 Views
Those are the ones we have to watch! aerocontrols - 04/02/2018 12:48:49 AM 1059 Views
He's the primary demographic for the 4Chans, isn't he? *NM* Tom - 06/02/2018 09:15:47 PM 665 Views
This part was quite revealing The Shrike - 02/02/2018 08:23:28 PM 1059 Views
I do find it very telling how many members of the media are suddenly opposed to transparency random thoughts - 02/02/2018 08:51:28 PM 1023 Views
Ironic, right? Anonymous2000 - 02/02/2018 09:12:43 PM 965 Views
So you are saying the House Intelligence Committee SHOULD release Schiffs rebuttal of Nunes' lies? Joel - 03/02/2018 03:58:13 AM 1119 Views
I am for releasing all of it random thoughts - 04/02/2018 12:28:57 AM 1116 Views
You, Sen. Kennedy (R-LA) and NO ONE ELSE on the right. Joel - 04/02/2018 07:41:17 AM 1637 Views
To summarize..... Anonymous2000 - 02/02/2018 09:12:06 PM 1046 Views
I seem to recall much incredulity when Trump claimed he was being wire tapped AgentApple - 02/02/2018 09:15:14 PM 1049 Views
Er. Let me see if I'm getting this right. Legolas - 02/02/2018 09:34:14 PM 1086 Views
They did somehow tap Flynn AgentApple - 02/02/2018 10:44:55 PM 1036 Views
Keep in mind Sessions wanted Rosenstein to resign random thoughts - 02/02/2018 11:28:52 PM 959 Views
Why would SESSIONS want Rosenstein fired? Joel - 03/02/2018 05:22:16 AM 1076 Views
It was on a list of about 40 Sessions wanted fired. Probably becuase he is a lib *NM* random thoughts - 04/02/2018 12:31:13 AM 671 Views
Sessions is a lib? Do you mean Libertarian? Joel - 04/02/2018 07:57:45 AM 1707 Views
No, they tapped the Russian Ambassador to the US, per SOP; not the FBIs fault Flynn called him. Joel - 03/02/2018 03:59:54 AM 1037 Views
no but were they listening when he spoke to Trump? random thoughts - 02/02/2018 11:25:30 PM 1012 Views
Nope, just listening to the Russian Ambassador when Flynn repeatedly called during the campaign Joel - 03/02/2018 04:11:27 AM 1066 Views
Actually, also, seems I missed a fairly crucial point until now, as did others here... Legolas - 03/02/2018 01:15:10 AM 1163 Views
If working with a forgein agent is such a sin... random thoughts - 02/02/2018 11:22:41 PM 1008 Views
You're saying oppo research should have its own kind of Jones Act? Legolas - 03/02/2018 12:51:27 AM 1024 Views
No I am saying that it seen as crimianl when one side does and no big deal when the other does it random thoughts - 03/02/2018 01:15:22 AM 1049 Views
I believe campaign aid from foreign private citizens OR govt is equally illegal, FWIW Joel - 03/02/2018 04:28:14 AM 988 Views
Actually, JEB BUSH hired the former MI6 agents firm to do oppo research on Trump during the primary Joel - 03/02/2018 04:03:08 AM 1116 Views
Sometimes I forget how right-wing most everyone here is. The memo itself is just nonsense. Ghavrel - 03/02/2018 02:44:16 AM 1102 Views
Ironic, since Republicans Mueller, Comey and Wray threatened to resign over Ws warrantless taps Joel - 03/02/2018 04:07:10 AM 1038 Views
I can't speak for the present with too much information is unknown Roland00 - 03/02/2018 04:51:14 AM 1065 Views
Everyone looks right wing to someone on the far left. The Shrike - 03/02/2018 03:04:48 PM 1083 Views
The memo is clearly not nonsense to the extent it shows abuse within the FBI. Tom - 03/02/2018 10:15:49 PM 1038 Views
Fruit of the poisonous tree wouldn't apply here, though. Ghavrel - 04/02/2018 05:40:44 AM 1034 Views
I would certainly argue it Tom - 05/02/2018 04:55:18 PM 1008 Views
I think you'd win! Insofar as you'd get the FISA warrant excluded. Ghavrel - 07/02/2018 07:01:42 AM 1070 Views
Actually, everyone I have seen exposing the material falsehoods Nunes invented are Republicans Joel - 03/02/2018 03:54:03 AM 1159 Views
Dear Joel, damookster - 03/02/2018 04:31:18 AM 1112 Views
I have Joel - 03/02/2018 05:09:19 AM 1024 Views
You’re getting to old to be this naive damookster - 03/02/2018 05:17:44 AM 1043 Views
Never said either side is the good guys Joel - 03/02/2018 05:36:55 AM 1035 Views
Don't feed the Joel. Tom - 03/02/2018 10:17:12 PM 1016 Views
Turn him to any cause of policy, The Gordian Knot of it he will tangle, Familiar as his garter Roland00 - 03/02/2018 10:51:36 PM 1076 Views
I sort of want to like this, but your answers keep getting weirder and weirder *NM* Tom - 06/02/2018 09:17:42 PM 566 Views
WSJ source Roland00 - 03/02/2018 05:04:04 AM 1155 Views
You believe the commie liberals at Rupert Murdochs Wall Street Journal? Joel - 03/02/2018 05:14:08 AM 1026 Views
well as long as you have an unnaamed source it must be true *NM* random thoughts - 04/02/2018 01:05:36 AM 667 Views
What is your point? *NM* Roland00 - 04/02/2018 01:53:37 AM 586 Views
What is yours? random thoughts - 04/02/2018 04:30:51 PM 941 Views
We are having completely different conversations right now, and completely different things we are Roland00 - 04/02/2018 11:38:35 PM 1096 Views
Yeah, look what happens when you shit on the Fourth Amendment. Vodalus - 03/02/2018 09:09:00 PM 1087 Views
Right, because the President of the United States is just a private citizen Joel - 04/02/2018 08:08:32 AM 1676 Views
The point was that the people in power want the Fourth Amendment to apply, or not, as they see fit. Vodalus - 06/02/2018 08:16:19 PM 974 Views
The key issue is being ignored random thoughts - 04/02/2018 04:35:32 PM 983 Views
Answer = Hell Yes Anonymous2000 - 04/02/2018 09:00:49 PM 950 Views
Does anybody still cares about the Nunes memo? I ask for the Schiff memo was released? Roland00 - 26/02/2018 11:14:51 PM 1205 Views
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